AT World of Warcraft Thread (Cataclysm, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

guyver01 · Dec 7, 2011

Beev said:
I think the shooting range game is utter trash and implemented insanely poorly.

it is really easy

aim for the target with the green arrow. score each time

lupi · Dec 7, 2011

I really should have my jC start doing thee cat dailies, but I still have him in NR to finish off the last 2 areas

Speaking of which, the change to kill xp for previous content does make leveling suck once you've exceeded it. At least using cat gear though does make about any encounter trivial. Did the GH and ZD challenge rings solo and it wasn't even a question of victory. Wonder if the other challenge event will be as easy.

lupi · Dec 7, 2011

I really should have my jC start doing thee cat dailies, but I still have him in NR to finish off the last 2 areas

Speaking of which, the change to kill xp for previous content does make leveling suck once you've exceeded it. At least using cat gear though does make about any encounter trivial. Did the GH and ZD challenge rings solo and it wasn't even a question of victory. Wonder if the other challenge event will be as easy.

nageov3t · Dec 7, 2011

loki8481 said:
played around with transmogs for my level 10 warrior last night:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bronzebeard/Worgendorfer/advanced

and warlock T5 shoulders never really stop being badass...

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bronzebeard/Netherwind/advanced

naturally, when there's a fun bug that everyone loves and no one is complaining about... Blizzard hotfixes it within hours

glad I didn't pay the gold to transmog my BoA helms/cloaks... my caster alt appears safe, but I had to mail my plate heirlooms from my Warrior to my DK last night before reading the hotfix notes and lost the transmogs.

Aikouka · Dec 7, 2011

Luckily, my second Paladin is the last plate-wearer that I need to level, so the items won't need to change hands.

A bit of an amusing Tale of Fail for you. I was looking around Elitist Jerks last night to find any information about how well-liked the valor point tanking trinket is (I still have ilevel 346 trinkets

), and I saw a comment about Holy Shield in the write up. It talked about how it was an on use ability and should be used pretty much on cooldown. I scratched my chin, and pondered... "wait a minute... I've never activated Holy Shi...t, it's not even on my bar!" Apparently, I forgot that it went from being an effect caused by Shield of the Righteous and Word of Glory to being an activated ability (way back at the release of 4.0), and I never put it on my bar. You know, the whole +20% block damage reduction thing would have been nice on some of that ZA trash!

rh71 · Dec 8, 2011

Beev said:
Small tale of win:

I was fiddling around on my level 75 JC last night and noticed there were no brilliant inferno rubies on the AH, so I finished my third JC daily and bought the recipe with my first three tokens, cut 5 of them, and then listed and immediately sold them at 500g a pop :awe:

Again, thanks for the JC suggestion, guys. It's been amazing.

only 2 adept ember topaz were available for 399g yesterday so i put a couple more up at 398, because JCs seem to always go lower and lower but not too much as to ruin profit for each other. Well a half hour later theres a whole bunch more for > 390g and the same guy who listed it at 395 put a couple up for only 38g. I know it was price gouging, but with such a system i wonder how any JC makes any money. i have never sold anything when a gem was in short supply, because it seems another JC comes along and posts soon after me. theres always like the same 3 guys... cant win with jc. I've tried just prospecting for inferno rubys but it's also not profitable. Any other tips? Has 4.3 changed the profit game other than more inferno rubys being needed by everyone?

rh71 · Dec 8, 2011

loki8481 said:
ToGC was what really killed WoW for me and prompted me to quit for a year.

4 different raids, all of which take place in the same room with no trash, was a little mind-numbingly boring.

yeah that was definitely a WoW low-point... I can't believe they put that out - how lazy can you be with all that dev money?

zokudu · Dec 8, 2011

rh71 said:
only 2 adept ember topaz were available for 399g yesterday so i put a couple more up at 398, because JCs seem to always go lower and lower but not too much as to ruin profit for each other. Well a half hour later theres a whole bunch more for > 390g and the same guy who listed it at 395 put a couple up for only 38g. I know it was price gouging, but with such a system i wonder how any JC makes any money. i have never sold anything when a gem was in short supply, because it seems another JC comes along and posts soon after me. theres always like the same 3 guys... cant win with jc. I've tried just prospecting for inferno rubys but it's also not profitable. Any other tips? Has 4.3 changed the profit game other than more inferno rubys being needed by everyone?

I pretty much said what I do above. Prospect. If you prospect you can use the green gems to craft items to DE for enchanting mats which is where the true profit tends to be esp with the recent patch but keep an eye on green gem prices and sell them raw if you can make more profit that way. Normally this works with the daily gems. Any blue gems you get prospecting this way are pure profit 90% of the time.

Aikouka · Dec 8, 2011

rh71 said:
yeah that was definitely a WoW low-point... I can't believe they put that out - how lazy can you be with all that dev money?

They said it was a fairly stunted raid instance because of the amount of development time spent on Strand of the Ancients, and I can understand that. I can't recall a time where Blizzard ever released a new PVP item and a PVE item during the same non-major patch (major meaning <major>.<minor>.<revision> in a version numbering scheme). Although, I think if we consider a new arena area to be a PVP item, I believe we've gotten those along with a new raid instance. However, I assume a new arena instance is far easier than creating an entirely new battleground.

It also doesn't help that Trial of the Crusader also came with a new 5-man dungeon, and a metric crap ton of new daily content. Although, ICC did come with three new and much better 5-man dungeons.

Beev · Dec 8, 2011

Looking back, TotC is where I stopped caring too. I raided for the first half of ICC and then stopped. In hindsight, I really do blame TotC...

lupi · Dec 8, 2011

What are yall doing for these damn volatiles. Once you cross about 510 in skill you need a crapton of them and they seem to be the worse to gather elements since vanilla.

Aikouka · Dec 8, 2011

lupi said:
What are yall doing for these damn volatiles. Once you cross about 510 in skill you need a crapton of them and they seem to be the worse to gather elements since vanilla.

Gathering volatiles is pretty bad in Cataclysm, and that's mostly because of how bad they nerfed Engineering in regard to its gathering capability (no more clouds for the Zapthrottle Mote Extractor). You can gather some volatiles through almost every profession though (except Skinning?). I usually get a good deal of Water, Earth and Fire when I go out mining, and I get a lot of Life when I go herb picking.

To fill in any gaps, I use my two 525 alchemists for transmutes where I use my mage (transmute specialist) for the type that I need the most (although the bonus is 100% chance for +4 volatiles of any type), and my shaman (elixir specialist) for the other type.

I have around 400 Volatile Life, ~80 Earth, Fire, Water and ~180 Air.

A piece of advice is to make sure to use The Darkmoon Faire's quest to your advantage! It actually gave me the last 3 points (it gives 5) I was missing on my Shaman's Jewelcrafting, which was incredibly hard to get (only thing that gave points was green). The last 15 or so points are definitely the most expensive, but also be glad that you're not a Tailor. It takes 30 volatiles of a specific type (or 5 Chaos Orbs) to make a Dreamcloth. Dreamcloth recipes do not share a cooldown, so it's possible to make six a week and use up 150 volatiles! I have to spend almost every transmute cooldown just recouping the volatiles I use on this.

Wyndru · Dec 8, 2011

Not sure if it's been mentioned in the thread yet (I just noticed the deal) but WoW from vanilla up to cataclysm is on a holiday price of $35 for the whole set.

Separately it's broken down as:
Battle Chest (Vanilla, BC,) - $5
Wrath - $10
Cataclysm - $20

Also on sale:
Monk Pet - $5
Celestial Steed - $10

cronos · Dec 9, 2011

Wyndru said:
Not sure if it's been mentioned in the thread yet (I just noticed the deal) but WoW from vanilla up to cataclysm is on a holiday price of $35 for the whole set. It also throws in the celestial steed and the monk pet.

Separately it's broken down as:
Battle Chest (Vanilla, BC, Monk Pet) - $5
Wrath, Celestial Steed - $10
Cataclysm - $20

I don't think they're including the pet and the mount with the games. Those are just the discounted prices for them ($5 monk pet, $10 steed).

Wyndru · Dec 9, 2011

cronos said:
I don't think they're including the pet and the mount with the games. Those are just the discounted prices for them ($5 monk pet, $10 steed).

You are right, on the WoW launcher both items were in the same "box" saying the price so it confused me. On the Blizzard store it is more clear that they are separate items for the same price. I updated my post. Thanks for pointing that out.

fastcuda · Dec 11, 2011

Had a lot of fun at the new fair but the tickets I got were only like 30-50 per toon and its 90 for just one good item, and there's lots of items so it would take years to get all the fair perks.....the dancing bear mount looks interesting but have not actually seen it yet. New dungeons were fun but already getting old. I hope I get to 372 to raid soon. Multiple toons makes it harder but I cannot play just 1

zokudu · Dec 11, 2011

fastcuda said:
Had a lot of fun at the new fair but the tickets I got were only like 30-50 per toon and its 90 for just one good item, and there's lots of items so it would take years to get all the fair perks.....the dancing bear mount looks interesting but have not actually seen it yet. New dungeons were fun but already getting old. I hope I get to 372 to raid soon. Multiple toons makes it harder but I cannot play just 1

There's a max of 145 per faire you can get. There are the daily quests, Dungeon drops, BG drops, and 6 profession quests.

guyver01 · Dec 11, 2011

zokudu said:
Dungeon drops, BG drops.

the RNG screwed me this week. i got 2 dungeon drops... and no BG drops.

ran everything daily... multiple times.

zokudu · Dec 11, 2011

guyver01 said:
the RNG screwed me this week. i got 2 dungeon drops... and no BG drops.

ran everything daily... multiple times.

The dungeon drops come from any level dungeon. I farmed low level ones endlessly for mine.

guyver01 · Dec 11, 2011

zokudu said:
The dungeon drops come from any level dungeon. I farmed low level ones endlessly for mine.

zokudu · Dec 12, 2011

Hmmm. It seems I am getting the Dungeon drops still. perhaps its intended for you to get them throughout the month and turn them in during the next Darkmoon Faire. That's not too bad I guess.

Aikouka · Dec 12, 2011

zokudu said:
Hmmm. It seems I am getting the Dungeon drops still. perhaps its intended for you to get them throughout the month and turn them in during the next Darkmoon Faire. That's not too bad I guess.

They should drop as long as you have the guide. Thinking about it, I probably should have just picked up the guide on every toon!

zokudu · Dec 12, 2011

Aikouka said:
They should drop as long as you have the guide. Thinking about it, I probably should have just picked up the guide on every toon!

Yea especially since the items aren't soulbound so you can trade them away to whomever you want to get the Darkmoon Faire items.

Aikouka · Dec 13, 2011

After having a tank take the strength DPS sword from Hour of Twilight for the second time, I am going to feel so good winning the tanking sword from Deathwing that just happens to be BiS for Frost. :twisted:

Also, my god are some of the DPS awful in LFR. I mean, I thought we'd have some scrubbies doing near 13-15k, but we had a Retribution Paladin doing 9.5k on Yor'sahj the Failbringer (my nickname for the boss). It's not like we were really picking up the slack elsewhere either. We were about 5 seconds from hitting the enrage timer, and it's not like Yor'sahj even has tight times (like Patchwerk, Brutallus or Baleroc). It's worse when the people doing awful end up winning the gear over the people that actually perform well. I mean... you have to have an ilevel of 372 to even get into LFR. So, unless you're cheesing the shit out of it with PVP gear or gear you would never even wear, pulling at least 15k should not be unheard of.

I guess I can't complain too much since one of the low DPS people traded me the pants he won for the shoulders that I won (which aren't better than the shoulders off Spine of Deathwing). There was another mage who kept trying to convince me that I should trade him for the gloves token, and that the pants were "just a sidegrade." I'm using 378 T12 gloves and 359 T11 pants. Since I could buy the T12 pants (for JP) too, they're both the same "quality" of an upgrade, but the pants are itemized far better, and replacing my gloves would cause me to lose a set bonus.

I think he just wanted my token piece! :colbert:

nageov3t · Dec 13, 2011

can you scroll of resurrection yourself?

with BC/Wrath/Cat on sale for X-mas, I'm a little tempted to reactivate my second account, transfer my prot paladin on it, and run my less solo-inclined alts through instances for transmog gear.

although I probably don't have the skills to dual box BWL

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