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[AT] Iris Pro in a socket

Before we get any ignorant comments about price, I should point out that the OEM cost of i5-4570R is $255.
 
Kind of wish they would provide a date so we know if it is worth waiting. I mean Q3 2014 - yea sure lets wait a few months - Q3 2015; naw I'm not going to wait a freaking year for this beast.
 
Initially it was planned for November according to an older Roadmap, after all 14nm delays it is doubtful for this year. I think a CES 2015 launch could make sense with availability a month or so later.
 
Homeles said:
Before we get any ignorant comments about price, I should point out that the OEM cost of i5-4570R is $255.
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Ignorant is to think that because a SKU has a low OEM price that price will be directly translated to the consumer, specially on a part whose availability in the DIY market is nil at best.


Yeah, those AIO macs must be really cheap /not.
 
I guess they are not launching GT2 versions of Broadwell-K (only GT3e), so I doubt there will be a massive price increase compared to current Haswell-K models.
This could prove to be an exciting for gaming HTPCs. Also, cant wait to see the OC potential and especially perf. scaling, eDRAM should help here compared to DDR3/DDR4 bound chips. 🙂
 
PPB said:
Ignorant is to think that because a SKU has a low OEM price that price will be directly translated to the consumer, specially on a part whose availability in the DIY market is nil at best.


Yeah, those AIO macs must be really cheap /not.
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Just imagine how cheap it will be with the DRAM on a paid-off process, and the 4C-GT3 die on a process that's half as expensive per transistor. I smell success.
 
R0H1T said:
Yeah like ~255 at your next door Mom & Pop store 🙄
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It's a tremendous leap closer than your asinine "$700" remark that you made in the AT article comments.

What is with you guys and your distorted perception of reality?
 
Homeles said:
It's a tremendous leap closer than your asinine "$700" remark that you made in the AT article comments.

What is with you guys and your distorted perception of reality?
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Yeah that was an exaggeration but for a product that hasn't even been released yet ! If you will a worst case scenario, from my side, as to how much the top SKU of the socketed Iris Pro may cost & you rebutt it with OEM prices of something that can't be bought in retail stores, you really think these things will cost any less than the current 4770K ?

Your definition or perception of reality is as distorted as anyone else's on this site !
 
R0H1T said:
Yeah that was an exaggeration but for a product that hasn't even been released yet ! If you will a worst case scenario, from my side, as to how much the top SKU of the socketed Iris Pro may cost & you rebutt it with OEM prices of something that can't be bought in retail stores, you really think these things will cost any less than the current 4770K ?

Your definition or perception of reality is as distorted as anyone else's on this site !
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The pricing listed on ARK for tray pricing is not far off from retail box pricing. For example, the i5 4670K has a box price of $243, whereas the tray price is a whopping... $242.

If Intel's worked out discounts with various OEMs, they're undisclosed, and obviously not listed on the ARK page.

And yes, I fully expect an i5 model to cost less than a 4770K.
 
$230 for a 4670k + $100 for Iris Pro (my guess here) = $330 for a cpu with similar performance and AMD beating graphics.

I say bring it on Intel and thanks for listening to some of us 🙂
 
Gikaseixas said:
$230 for a 4670k + $100 for Iris Pro (my guess here) = $330 for a cpu with similar performance and AMD beating graphics.

I say bring it on Intel and thanks for listening to some of us 🙂
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Partly agree with that assessment of yours but I do believe that Intel will not price any Iris Pro socketed parts below their normal (unlocked) i7 flagship however the premium on its price will be more or less dictated by the market (response) & whether the extra iGPU performance is enough for the target audience.
 
@R0H1T - "I do believe that Intel will not price any Iris Pro socketed parts below their normal (unlocked) i7 flagship"

duh ya

as long as they keep it under $300 this is shud fly well
 
Gikaseixas said:
Only this time with a slightly improved desktop cpu driving it (some fps increases incoming i think)
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Broadwell is rumored to have 4x perf/watt improvement on the GPU over Haswell. If that's true, that explains why Cherry Trail with same Gen 8 architecture has 4x the EUs of Bay Trail.

Now that does not mean that it'll end up 4x(or near that) for high performance parts. But that makes things very interesting.

On Gen 7/7.5, the texture samplers run at 75% of the core frequency. Also the second issue port on the EU can't issue as much as the first either, meaning the peak flops isn't representative with real world performance.

On 14nm, GT3e Broadwell quad can be made with die area probably about 180mm2, paving the way for GT4 parts. That means GT3e cost adder can be less than today.
 
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Phynaz said:
Probably because Haswell Iris Pro creams Kaveri at the same power consumption. Broadwell is only going to get better.
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Equal or better CPU performance than Haswell-K (equal/slightly improved IPC thanks to Broadwell cores + Crystalwell ''L4'' boost) coupled with tremendously improved graphics @ 95W TDP or lower. Judging by his posts I'd say he really appreciates powerful single-chip solutions, especially low power-comsumption (compared to regular CPU+dGPUs), so he's probably looking forward to Broadwell-K. 😛
 
AtenRa said:
If this is a Haswell Iris Pro performance then i dont see whats the fuss about it.
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The way I see it, it's Intel not giving the socketed DIY mobo crowd the finger (as some people expected them to). Win some good will, don't alienate your loyal fans, that sort of thing. We all know what happened to Microsoft when they thought that it was okay to ignore the complaints from the small (but vocal and influential) "power users".

Iris Pro doesn't interest me (too weak compared to a big discrete GPU, too powerful for non-gaming), but I do like that the option exists and that Intel is not saying, "We don't care about you enthusiasts in a socket-free future."
 
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Probably because Haswell Iris Pro creams Kaveri at the same power consumption. Broadwell is only going to get better.
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Are you sure ???
Lets eliminate the CPU and see what happens with graphics only. From AT Kaveri review.

Core i7 4770R is 65W TDP.

Even a low 45W Kaveri iGPU is faster than Iris Pro in Bioshock. 65W Kaveri is 17% faster.
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In Tomb Raider Iris Pro is ~10% Faster than 65W Kaveri.
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Well, even vanilla Intel HD graphics are faster than Iris Pro. It seams that eDRAM is not always the best solution or the Intel driver is even worst than we believe.
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Equal to 65W Kaveri.
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So, where did you see that Iris Pro creams Kaveri at the same power consumption ?? And this is 22nm FinFet vs 28nm. Intel is way behind in graphics performance.
Also to note here that Kaveri 45W is equal or faster than the 100W Richland parts. AMD should of bring a GDDR-5 SKU even if the price was at $300+, it would completely eliminate the competition.
 
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