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Assange may be evicted

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Greenman said:
I thought Assange was a hero of the left?
I have GOT to find a smaller rock to live under.
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Nope don’t think so, even the Iraq stuff he released. He/they were super sloppy about making sure people didn’t get hurt.
I’ve always looked a Wikileaks as a bunch of spoiled brats that want respect.
 
Or the Ecuadorians could do him like Kashoggi... "Julian? He wasn't here when we came to work this morning. He must have slipped past security somehow."

Not that I advocate anything like that.
 
Like I said, I really need a smaller rock.
It's possible I'm thinking of the wrong guy, was this the fellow that went to Russia to avoid being arrested?
 
Greenman said:
I thought Assange was a hero of the left?
I have GOT to find a smaller rock to live under.
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Nope. Though, as well as the libertarian angle, personally I'd say he's a good exemplar of how politics has gotten more complicated than it used to be. I used to think the cliche about 'extreme left meeting extreme right' was bollocks, but these days something a little like that does indeed seem to have happened. Probably largely thanks to Putin.

Also, I reckon you can't discount the fact that some people just have seriously flawed personalities, regardless of politics. I mean, if you really believed (and had real reason to believe) that the US establishment was out to get you by any means necessary, why the hell would you go around behaving like some priapic, woman-disrespecting, '70s rock star?
 
allisolm said:
And now (you can't make this stuff up) Assange is suing Ecuador for "violating his fundamental rights" because they want him to pay for his own expenses like food, medical and laundry, keep the spaces inside the embassy clean, and take care of his cat.

His lawyer accused the Ecuadorian government of "not doing enough."

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

I'd just boot him to the curb, after notifying any countries that might still be interested in him as to the exact time of his exit from the embassy.



https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/19/uk/julian-assange-ecuador-intl/index.html
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Kick the bum out.
 
pmv said:
Nope. Though, as well as the libertarian angle, personally I'd say he's a good exemplar of how politics has gotten more complicated than it used to be. I used to think the cliche about 'extreme left meeting extreme right' was bollocks, but these days something a little like that does indeed seem to have happened. Probably largely thanks to Putin.

Also, I reckon you can't discount the fact that some people just have seriously flawed personalities, regardless of politics. I mean, if you really believed (and had real reason to believe) that the US establishment was out to get you by any means necessary, why the hell would you go around behaving like some priapic, woman-disrespecting, '70s rock star?
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Assange is the best argument against a free open internet... Fuckers like him is why we cant have nice things. This little nobody woke one day and thought, I need to get into geopolitics, cause that is how important I am and my hatred for certain political elements.. So he sold his platform out to russian operatives and targeted clinton in an american presidential election.
One dude.
With a massive ego.
And a butthurt, took it out on the world.
There is another dude i wouldnt piss on, fuck that guy.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Yeah, we loved him until he showed the corruption within our own party.


Heh, gotta love the self-admittance on the bias.
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You're distorting what he said. Did you not notice the "he never really was" part?

Manning's leaks may have been helpful to the left by exposing things the Bush administration wanted to keep quiet (such as the number of civilian deaths in the Iraq War), but I don't think there's much dispute that WikiLeaks was irresponsible in how it published data, and people on the left had misgivings about it even then. Assange has increasingly made it clear that he uses leaks as a weapon to target people and organizations he doesn't like, not to promote accountability like he claims.

To me, the issue with WikiLeaks' DNC disclosure is that it very likely knew this data originated from hacks (it may have even known who was behind the hacks), and that it accepted the data because it wanted to hurt the DNC, not because there was some horrible secret inside.

Besides, WikiLeaks seems less and less interested in the truth. It pushed the bogus Seth Rich conspiracy; it promoted those "Macron leaks" where a number of them included known fake data. Assange isn't and likely never was a hero of free speech -- he's just a self-important man who craves publicity. Kick him out of the embassy, extradite him, and make sure he spends the rest of his life in prison.
 
Commodus said:
You're distorting what he said. Did you not notice the "he never really was" part?

Manning's leaks may have been helpful to the left by exposing things the Bush administration wanted to keep quiet (such as the number of civilian deaths in the Iraq War), but I don't think there's much dispute that WikiLeaks was irresponsible in how it published data, and people on the left had misgivings about it even then. Assange has increasingly made it clear that he uses leaks as a weapon to target people and organizations he doesn't like, not to promote accountability like he claims.

To me, the issue with WikiLeaks' DNC disclosure is that it very likely knew this data originated from hacks (it may have even known who was behind the hacks), and that it accepted the data because it wanted to hurt the DNC, not because there was some horrible secret inside.

Besides, WikiLeaks seems less and less interested in the truth. It pushed the bogus Seth Rich conspiracy; it promoted those "Macron leaks" where a number of them included known fake data. Assange isn't and likely never was a hero of free speech -- he's just a self-important man who craves publicity. Kick him out of the embassy, extradite him, and make sure he spends the rest of his life in prison.
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The easiest way to see that wikileaks’ claim that they are for transparency and exposing corruption is bullshit is simply to note that they have never published anything about the Russian government and have in fact attacked those who have despite the Russian government being one of the most corrupt entities on the planet.
 
Greenman said:
I thought Assange was a hero of the left?
I have GOT to find a smaller rock to live under.
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weird that you would ever think this. He's been a huge fan of and friend to Trump. He's idolized by the GOP, because both entities fundamentally hate the United States.

Wikileaks once had a mission, many years ago, but it is far from what Assange is and what Assange dragged them into--which is essentially publicity for Assange and an information stream for Putin and the GRU. He's long been a pariah within his own organization.
 
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