Armed Militia Members take over Federal Building in Oregon

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TechBoyJK

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RampantAndroid said:
You do realize that there is presently an investigation into the FBI team present - they refused to report that they had fired two shots. Specifically, the two shots just as the truck gets stuck in the snow, where one bullet goes through the window (it apparently entered through the roof somehow) and the second round just went way wide and missed EVERYTHING. It sounds like it's quite possible that charges will be brought for misconduct...
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I couldn't give two shits because the 800 pound gorilla in the room is the behavior of the assclown in the truck and his rampant 'shoot me now' attitude.

Good shoot.
 
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Darwin333

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RampantAndroid said:
You do realize that there is presently an investigation into the FBI team present - they refused to report that they had fired two shots. Specifically, the two shots just as the truck gets stuck in the snow, where one bullet goes through the window (it apparently entered through the roof somehow) and the second round just went way wide and missed EVERYTHING. It sounds like it's quite possible that charges will be brought for misconduct...
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He damn near ran over a cop when he tried to go around the road block. I think they are going to have an uphill battle at the very least.

Regardless, the shots that actually killed him were justified. He was given so many chances to surrender it isn't funny, said they would have to kill him, jumped out of the vehicle and started running around and then reached into his jacket. I'm pretty sure he had a gun in his jacket too but that's not relevant either. Simply reaching, especially given the above facts, is more then enough justification.

Frankly I'm still impressed by the restraint all LEO showed throughout the entire ordeal. The family was in a bind after the shooting started, I don't blame them for not knowing what to do and not wanting to get out of the vehicle for fear of getting shot. The only thing they might have done better was give the family a better opportunity to surrender but that's definitely some serious monday morning quarterbacking.
 
JSt0rm

JSt0rm

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dude wanted to go out in a firefight with the cops. Probably ran the scenario through his mind about how his death would rise up all the whites and they would take over and grze cattle everywhere. What he should of done is practice getting his gun out of his lambskin coat instead he fumbled his one moment in life. Stay safe tarp ghost.
 
norseamd

norseamd

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Darwin333 said:
He damn near ran over a cop when he tried to go around the road block. I think they are going to have an uphill battle at the very least.

Regardless, the shots that actually killed him were justified. He was given so many chances to surrender it isn't funny, said they would have to kill him, jumped out of the vehicle and started running around and then reached into his jacket. I'm pretty sure he had a gun in his jacket too but that's not relevant either. Simply reaching, especially given the above facts, is more then enough justification.

Frankly I'm still impressed by the restraint all LEO showed throughout the entire ordeal. The family was in a bind after the shooting started, I don't blame them for not knowing what to do and not wanting to get out of the vehicle for fear of getting shot. The only thing they might have done better was give the family a better opportunity to surrender but that's definitely some serious monday morning quarterbacking.
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The fact that they didnt report them is the problem here. Firing them is to me less of a concern. You need to have accountability from law enforcement.
 
RampantAndroid

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Darwin333 said:
He damn near ran over a cop when he tried to go around the road block.
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A second look at the video and I disagree with the second part of your statement - you hear "hang on" and at the same time see brake lights go on. Those brake lights stay on until the truck comes to a complete stop. A truck moving at 70MPH cannot stop on a dime...so I'm not convinced that he was running the road block - he would have had his foot on the accelerator if that were the case. And again - I'm not arguing about the shooting. Finicum reached for a gun which is a sure fire way to get shot. While I disagree with the BLM on a bunch of stuff (my gripes are with them in WA & the Mt Baker Natl Forest) I don't think occupying a refuge and destroying property is a proper action to take...
 
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OutHouse

OutHouse

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evident said:
what a fucking moron. plowed right into the fucking police barrier. clearly looked like he was going to reach for a weapon as well. are these fucking idiots in the youtube comments for real??
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i see brake lights and no cop cars plowed into. just a snowbank. the cops shot the truck twice as he was slowing down. The cops in the tree line that came out and shot him was a classic military L ambush setup. why did they shoot the truck before it reached the blockade, he clearly was not accelerating.
 
Brainonska511

Brainonska511

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norseamd

norseamd

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Brainonska511 said:
Militia seems to be code word for domestic terrorist organization.
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Um, no. Maybe some use it that way, but that is not what it means.

Militia is a common word used all over Europe and other Western countries to describe a paramilitary unit made up of civilians.
 
zinfamous

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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norseamd said:
Um, no. Maybe some use it that way, but that is not what it means.

Militia is a common word used all over Europe and other Western countries to describe a paramilitary unit made up of civilians.
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and 100% of self-described militia groups in the US are domestic terrorists or, at the very least, try-hard terrorists.
 
IronWing

IronWing

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Did you notice that you never see Ted Cruz and Ammon Bundy at the same time? Hmmm.
 
Thebobo

Thebobo

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Mai72 said:
These guys think that having guns is going to save them from the government. Lol. The military should roll in a tank and just blow that building to shreds.

You can't fight the military. Give it up. Maybe you could have given the military a run about 200 years ago, but not today. The technology the USA government wields is just too much for a bunch of so called patriots.
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Oh yea but they did in Red Dawn!
 
IronWing

IronWing

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Well, it's going about as expected....

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The judge has ruled that no, the Bundys may not wear cowboy hats and cowboy boots in court and no, the court will not just dismiss all counts against Cox. One defendant showed up in a custom jury nullification sweatshirt. The judge reminded him that she had already ruled that arguments in favor of jury nullification were not going to be allowed. I suspect the guy will rack up a contempt charge by the end of the first week.
 
HomerJS

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Another Fox News right wing hero going down in flames. Careful where you cash your chips Roger.

Ooops of yeah, I forgot :)
 
IronWing

IronWing

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David Fry is complaining that there is excrement on the walls of his jail cell. He is in solitary confinement.
 
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