Armed Militia Members take over Federal Building in Oregon

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IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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Not good at all. I wonder if any of the jurors will be talking to the press. I honestly would like to hear if they simply thought the prosecution failed to prove the charges or if they bought into the jury nullification crap.


Hopefully for the next one, and there will be a next one, that the feds find a better balance between de-escalation and allowing another circus.
 

Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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Thought just occurred to me to compare these guys to inner city rioters. Or more specifically the agitators of said riots.
Now granted, they caused less harm and did so in a remote location.

But my question is... what do participants in a riot get charged with, and should it be viewed similarly, or even as a lesser offense given the location?
 
Jan 25, 2011
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If true that is priceless. These dip shits can't even win correctly.
It's true. He was yelling at the judge that the Bundys were free to go. They are still due to stand trial for the Nevada standoff. The marshals showed him who was and wasn't free to leave.
 

DrDoug

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As a resident of rural Oregon, I'm not surprised one bit. All they had to do was get jurors from anywhere but Portland and they were pretty much guaranteed a walk on this. As a believer in the Law of Unintended Consequences, you can bet that the Federal government will have a much different response the next time a federal facility is occupied. This was a bad decision by my fellow citizens in Oregon and it's going to come back to bite us all.

Frankly, it's an embarrassment.
 

KMFJD

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Aug 11, 2005
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So occupying federal property with weapons while threatening agents if they come near is legal. (If white)
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Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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I hope that jury was some sort of cosmic accident. Letting these guys walk away invites more of the same. WTF were these people thinking?
 
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Zorba

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This is crazy. Hopefully the feds do what they do best and bring up a whole new round of charges. I am sure there were a lot more things they could be charged with.
 

Jaskalas

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Look, these are some white people, so we know they didn't really mean any harm.

If you mean that they're likely the same culture as the Bundies, that's true. Of course you and other white people are not.

Humans do tend to segregate and that leads to mono-ethnic cultures... which means a Western yeehawdist is likely white... and a Chicago thug is likely... and people pick up on those stereotypes but it's not a racial issue. It's social. It's cultural. It's ideals. Association runs far deeper than skin color. It's about who you are, where you come from. It's our lack of diversity that makes those cultural issues appear to be divided on race, but at its core race has nothing to do with it.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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What kind of dumbass boobs were selected for this jury?

..explains why we haven't heard from Texashiker in a few weeks....
 

sdifox

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Wow. Meanwhile there are civilians being shot on the street by the police with both hands up.
 

Bitek

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I don't always agree with the tactics and goals of BLM, but shit like this proves they do have a point.
 

fskimospy

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I don't always agree with the tactics and goals of BLM, but shit like this proves they do have a point.

Yes, can you imagine what would have happened if a group of armed black people or armed muslims took the exact same actions?

Does anyone here think they would have been acquitted? (Assuming they survived the original incident)
 

mizzou

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Thought just occurred to me to compare these guys to inner city rioters. Or more specifically the agitators of said riots.
Now granted, they caused less harm and did so in a remote location.

But my question is... what do participants in a riot get charged with, and should it be viewed similarly, or even as a lesser offense given the location?
rioters usually get charged with unlawful assembly or peace disturbance, which is a minor offense. These guys got charged with federal crimes. The only similarity between rioters and the Bundy's is that they both anti-government movements.