Armed Militia Members take over Federal Building in Oregon

[sdifox]

Yes, can you imagine what would have happened if a group of armed black people or armed muslims took the exact same actions?

Does anyone here think they would have been acquitted? (Assuming they survived the original incident)

Shit the FBI would have to put in new requisition for ammo and fireams since all ammo will be used up and all gun barrels will melt.

 

[cbrunny]

I would almost bet that every single juror is a Trump supporter.

lol what do you mean almost?

 

[cbrunny]

What kind of dumbass boobs were selected for this jury?

..explains why we haven't heard from Texashiker in a few weeks....

shiker is just hiding out in shame, no doubt. I wish he'd taken my bet... he'd owe me some money!

 

[KMFJD]

Yes, can you imagine what would have happened if a group of armed black people or armed muslims took the exact same actions?

Does anyone here think they would have been acquitted? (Assuming they survived the original incident)

Meanwhile in North Dakota.....


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ccess-pipeline-police-protesters-live-updates

 

[Homerboy]

Meanwhile in North Dakota.....


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ccess-pipeline-police-protesters-live-updates

This is the fucking worst part.
These dipshits in Oregon get acquitted meanwhile North Dakota is bleeding -- and barely any news coverage. Oh... but the media is a liberal mess right?

 

[AntonioHG]

Outrageous verdict, outrageous comments on Fox News site. Gotta stop punishing myself with the comments.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Meanwhile in North Dakota.....


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ccess-pipeline-police-protesters-live-updates

fvck... beat me to it... #whiteprivileges

 

[PokerGuy]

Encouraging to see the the right verdict reached.

 

[Homerboy]

Encouraging to see the the right verdict reached.

So it's ok to forcefully take over (government) land with guns. Threaten violence and discord?

 

[KMFJD]

So it's ok to forcefully take over (government) land with guns. Threaten violence and discord?

* only if you are a white conservative apparently

 

[fskimospy]

Encouraging to see the the right verdict reached.

Do you care to explain why you think this is the right verdict? My guess is no.

 

[Jaskalas]

Yes, can you imagine what would have happened if a group of armed black people or armed muslims took the exact same actions?

Does anyone here think they would have been acquitted? (Assuming they survived the original incident)

If tried by a Jury of their peers, as part of a counter-government culture then yes, I do believe anyone could have.

I expect the result has less to do with the men in question and is instead about giving the Feds the middle finger. It proves that Bundy is not alone in that sentiment, just that his actions went too far for others to directly participate. It really tells you where Palin and Bachmann, the Tea Party, and Libertarians come from. There's clearly a segment of folks out there who are part of a culture that is completely foreign to you.

 

[fskimospy]

If tried by a Jury of their peers, as part of a counter-government culture then yes, I do believe anyone could have.

I expect the result has less to do with the men in question and is instead about giving the Feds the middle finger. It proves that Bundy is not alone in that sentiment, just that his actions went too far for others to directly participate. It really tells you where Palin and Bachmann, the Tea Party, and Libertarians come from. There's clearly a segment of folks out there who are part of a culture that is completely foreign to you.

Do you seriously believe this is true? Swap out the Bundys with 12 black guys and you think they walk? My ass. I can't imagine you seriously believe that. I bet if you polled those individuals and asked them what they thought about the counter-government culture of Black Lives Matter you would see them go ballistic about those 'criminals'.

As for whether or not I understand their culture I'm very sure that I don't. What I do know is that in America when people commit multiple felonies and brag about it they deserve to go to jail. I would hope we could all agree on that one.

 

[IronWing]

If tried by a Jury of their peers, as part of a counter-government culture then yes, I do believe anyone could have.

I expect the result has less to do with the men in question and is instead about giving the Feds the middle finger. It proves that Bundy is not alone in that sentiment, just that his actions went too far for others to directly participate. It really tells you where Palin and Bachmann, the Tea Party, and Libertarians come from. There's clearly a segment of folks out there who are part of a culture that is completely foreign to you.

The Bundys were born into a culture of hereditary privilege in which government largess was granted to them based solely who their daddy is. I can see why they might think they are entitled to just steal anything from the public they fancy.

 

[PokerGuy]

Do you care to explain why you think this is the right verdict? My guess is no.

I don't think they should have been charged as they were to begin with. They were essentially protesting like many others that get charged with trespassing or disorderly conduct etc. The feds apparently tried to bring the oversized hammer down on them, and it blew up in their faces. The jury even said that they thought the defendants were wrong, but that they were well intentioned so they were not going to convict them of the serious charges.

 

[Homerboy]

I don't think they should have been charged as they were to begin with. They were essentially protesting like many others that get charged with trespassing or disorderly conduct etc. The feds apparently tried to bring the oversized hammer down on them, and it blew up in their faces. The jury even said that they thought the defendants were wrong, but that they were well intentioned so they were not going to convict them of the serious charges.

Yeah -- just your normal protest with snipers positioned on overpasses and hilltops.
MLK was famous for that tactic too.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I don't think they should have been charged as they were to begin with. They were essentially protesting like many others that get charged with trespassing or disorderly conduct etc. The feds apparently tried to bring the oversized hammer down on them, and it blew up in their faces. The jury even said that they thought the defendants were wrong, but that they were well intentioned so they were not going to convict them of the serious charges.

Can you show one, just one, example where Federal lands were seized with force by armed individuals who occupied them with threat of violence and were only charged with trespassing?

 

[HomerJS]

Sounds like white privilege

 

[PokerGuy]

I can't imagine you seriously believe that. I bet if you polled those individuals and asked them what they thought about the counter-government culture of Black Lives Matter you would see them go ballistic about those 'criminals'.

BLM has very little to do with "counter-government" and everything to do with anti-white. The group makes that abundantly clear.

As for whether or not I understand their culture I'm very sure that I don't.

Of course you don't, most people who love big government to better control those they disagree with can't understand why anyone would be opposed to such control.

What I do know is that in America when people commit multiple felonies and brag about it they deserve to go to jail. I would hope we could all agree on that one.

Except they were not found guilty of committing "multiple felonies" in this case.

 

[DrDoug]

If tried by a Jury of their peers, as part of a counter-government culture then yes, I do believe anyone could have.

I expect the result has less to do with the men in question and is instead about giving the Feds the middle finger. It proves that Bundy is not alone in that sentiment, just that his actions went too far for others to directly participate. It really tells you where Palin and Bachmann, the Tea Party, and Libertarians come from. There's clearly a segment of folks out there who are part of a culture that is completely foreign to you.

Name the party that taught their supporters that the government can't be trusted and is evil. Republicans. Republicans have taught the public that the government is bad and to be opposed at every chance they can get. Republicans oppose law and order, or rather they support their version of law and order.

The Constitution has nothing to do with it either, they just pay it lip service.

 

[PokerGuy]

Can you show one, just one, example where Federal lands were seized with force by armed individuals who occupied them with threat of violence and were only charged with trespassing?

Well, occupy idiots illegally occupied all sorts of areas, and BLM has repeatedly blocked interstate highways. Same concept.

 

[Homerboy]

Well, occupy idiots illegally occupied all sorts of areas, and BLM has repeatedly blocked interstate highways. Same concept.

You failed to fulfill this part of the request:

seized with force by armed individuals who occupied them with threat of violence

 

[zinfamous]

I don't think they should have been charged as they were to begin with. They were essentially protesting like many others that get charged with trespassing or disorderly conduct etc. The feds apparently tried to bring the oversized hammer down on them, and it blew up in their faces. The jury even said that they thought the defendants were wrong, but that they were well intentioned so they were not going to convict them of the serious charges.

Well, one of the jurors outed themselves.

 

[zinfamous]

BLM has very little to do with "counter-government" and everything to do with anti-white. The group makes that abundantly clear.

absolute Bullshit and you know it. Like with any other protest or subversive group, there are elements within that don't subscribe to the message or the point of the group. You choose to pick the fringe group and use them to define the whole, rather than define the fringe for what they actually are.

This is like identifying All conservatives as Trump supporters or Teabaggers.

BLM obviously has organizational problems with dealing with these elements (their intended lack of centralized leadership, like with similar groups, biting them in the ass), but in your case it is your ignorance and your ignorance alone that fails to understand what the movement is about.

 

[zinfamous]

Well, occupy idiots illegally occupied all sorts of areas, and BLM has repeatedly blocked interstate highways. Same concept.

"by occupy idiots" you mean OWS?

Are you actually comparing the Bundies and their militias, which arm themselves and set up snipers aimed at Federal agents when occupying these properties to unarmed protests and occupations by OWS and BLM?

Your white privilege is showing. You know as well as anyone else does that this verdict would have been drastically different were these armed blacks or scary muslims.