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[WelshBloke]

No they don't.

Here's a hint, how did native American's get to North America?

Were they on the ark?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Do they build little aeroplanes?

Come on! You know this shit.

Tell us how they did it?

I thought that it was penguins who built the little airplanes.

 

[buckshot24]

Were they on the ark?

We're done.

 

[brycejones]

We're done.

And Bucky runs away

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I'm pretty sure I do.
I'm not a math expert. I'd ask them to show me via proof. In math there are proofs in Darwinian biology there are fairy tales based on conjecture.

There is no such thing as "proof" in science. It's statements like yours that continually demonstrate your abject stupidity.

Science deals with testable hypotheses and falsifiability, which is precisely where evolution succeeds and creation fails.

 

[WelshBloke]

We're done.

Well were they?

Because I'm not interested if they weren't.

I want to know about the kangaroo rafts and monkey aeroplanes.

You know I can see why you reject science when you have these far more rational explanations.

 

[agent00f]

Yeah, why not? Because that isn't my point. The mutation rate of any single point change is only 10^9, two simultaneous changes is 10^18 and 3 is 10^27. Simple mathematics. Any change that requires 3 mutations at once is only going to happen once out of every billion times you go through 10^20 organisms. It will happen only 100 times for a change that requires on 2 every 10^20 organisms.

Think of the all the unlikely events that have happened in your life to reach this point. Now multiply them together as you have done here. How could this statistically impossible outcome possibly have happened? Or similarly for anyone else? God, I'm guessing?

 

[WelshBloke]

I thought that it was penguins who built the little airplanes.

Was it?

I get my religious texts and children's animations mixed up a lot.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Was it?

I get my religious texts and children's animations mixed up a lot.

I saw it in some documentary. Something along the idea of The Penguins of Madagascar or some such.

 

[buckshot24]

Think of the all the unlikely events that have happened in your life to reach this point. Now multiply them together as you have done here. How could this statistically impossible outcome possibly have happened? Or similarly for anyone else? God, I'm guessing?

At least you didn't use the hand of gin. I'm only talking about single changes that require 2 or 3 point mutations. I'm not talking about the formation of your brain from a mouse brain or from hearing to echolocation (twice). The kinds of changes you believe happened aren't unlikely, they are impossible.

 

[agent00f]

Also, worth noting a rather more common phenomenon: here's someone who barely knows enough math to multiple likelihood (basically middle school, since passing high school level requires using stats correctly), who believes they've figured out something people with >PhD's can't. It's similar to people who kind of suck at playground-ball criticizing nba players for doing it all wrong, and it's at the core of popular american ideologies (and evidently british ones too, lol).

 

[WelshBloke]

At least you didn't use the hand of gin. I'm only talking about single changes that require 2 or 3 point mutations. I'm not talking about the formation of your brain from a mouse brain or from hearing to echolocation (twice). The kinds of changes you believe happened aren't unlikely, they are impossible.

So did the kangaroos have maps because if there was only two of them they pretty much had to make it.

 

[agent00f]

At least you didn't use the hand of gin. I'm only talking about single changes that require 2 or 3 point mutations. I'm not talking about the formation of your brain from a mouse brain or from hearing to echolocation (twice). The kinds of changes you believe happened aren't unlikely, they are impossible.

Again, the likelihood of many events in your life are "impossible", starting with the sperm of out bazillions you were made from, multiplied by the one egg out of a hell of a lot.

So how did any human ever come about given those impossible odds from the very start?

 

[WelshBloke]

Again, the likelihood of many events in your life are "impossible", starting with the sperm of out bazillions you were made from, multiplied by the one egg out of a hell of a lot.

So how did any human ever come about given those impossible odds from the very start?

And how did the monkeys get fuel for their tiny aeroplanes on the ark?

 

[buckshot24]

Also, worth noting a rather more common phenomenon: here's someone who barely knows enough math to multiple likelihood (basically middle school, since passing high school level requires using stats correctly), who believes they've figured out something people with >PhD's can't. It's similar to people who kind of suck at playground-ball criticizing nba players for doing it all wrong, and it's at the core of popular american ideologies (and evidently british ones too, lol).

This is why I think this shows a spiritual realm. If it was just intelligence, nobody would believe this crap. PhD's aren't infallible, they are people. Some PhD's don't believe it either.

 

[buckshot24]

Again, the likelihood of many events in your life are "impossible", starting with the sperm of out bazillions you were made from, multiplied by the one egg out of a hell of a lot.

So how did any human ever come about given those impossible odds from the very start?

That is a facile comparison.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

The kinds of changes you believe happened aren't unlikely, they are impossible.

What rule(s) do you think they violate?

What's stopping them, in other words?

 

[agent00f]

That is a facile comparison.

How so? I'm using the exact same infallible God-approved buckshot math.

Also I'm being told that kangaroos might have had trouble reaching the ark, but I suspect buckshot knows the ark was built on Pangaea, which god subsequently transformed into the modern continents rather promptly.

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Actually my bad, now that I think about it the Kangaroos (or other such displaced animals) where probably all on one continent or so at one time. It was during the unloading of the ark that Noah distributed them evenly onto the earth. Sorry I'm not so practiced at this.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

This is why I think this shows a spiritual realm.

What could conceivably be evidence against a "spiritual realm"?

If it was just intelligence, nobody would believe this crap. PhD's aren't infallible, they are people.

That's why we have the scientific method. It doesn't depend on any individual.

Some PhD's don't believe it either.

How many of them are named Steve?

 

[fskimospy]

I for one am totally shocked that this has once again turned into buckshot vs. everyone else and all of science.

 

[WelshBloke]

I for one am totally shocked that this has once again turned into buckshot vs. everyone else and all of science.

He has the kangaroo rafts and monkey aeroplanes on his side!

 

[agent00f]

He has the kangaroo rafts and monkey aeroplanes on his side!

Sorry, I think we overlooked the possibility that Noah only put them there during the unloading. See edit above, it all makes sense now.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

What do you think the chances are that buckwheat accepts the validity of paternity tests?

 

[fskimospy]

He has the kangaroo rafts and monkey aeroplanes on his side!

Seems plausible to me!

 

[WelshBloke]

Sorry, I think we overlooked the possibility that Noah only put them there during the unloading. See edit above, it all makes sense now.

Ah! He put wheels on the ark and pushed it from mount ararat to the Indian ocean!

Cunning.

See Buckshot, this is the information you need to be sharing. It makes your beliefs sound so much more likely!