Are you over weight? Solution here.

[Markbnj]

We get the idea that the walking is trivial in itself, but symbolizes a change to be made. But, it is a stupid starter.

Outside of the three or four trolls in this thread, literally nobody believes this. So if you are someone reading this who wants to get started getting some exercise, feel better, and take some pounds off, ignore this thread, Google it, and draw your own conclusions.

 

[smackababy]

Who made you king of the fucking forum? Shut your mouth with your trolling in this thread already. It's getting old. You don't know everything and you don't have all of the answers. Moonbogg's point isn't brand new and he isn't saying he is 100% right for 100% of people in 100% of situations by telling them to literally go walk a mile. His underlying point is simple and easy to do, which is what people need. Someone may have been helped with this thread, so get the hell off of your high horse and contribute something useful or go find somewhere else to post please.

You mad bro?

We don't need "here is a solution to this problem" when it isn't actually the fucking solution. Nor do we need stupid shit that is blatantly false passed around as facts, especially in a section that is supposed to be helpful. He post is literally "want to lose weight? go walk a mile!" He says "fuck diet", "exercise is the solution". That is not only complete bullshit, but it has no place in the H&F section. His entire point is "exercise to lose weight" and that is demonstratively false. 99.999% of all people on this planet will never outwork a bad diet.

 

[squarecut1]

We get the idea that the walking is trivial in itself, but symbolizes a change to be made. But, it is a stupid starter.

Walking is neither trivial in itself nor it is a stupid starter. I disagree with you. Now don't blow up on me.. Lots of anger on this forum

 

[moonbogg]

You mad bro?

We don't need "here is a solution to this problem" when it isn't actually the fucking solution. Nor do we need stupid shit that is blatantly false passed around as facts, especially in a section that is supposed to be helpful. He post is literally "want to lose weight? go walk a mile!" He says "fuck diet", "exercise is the solution". That is not only complete bullshit, but it has no place in the H&F section. His entire point is "exercise to lose weight" and that is demonstratively false. 99.999% of all people on this planet will never outwork a bad diet.

If someone invests in themselves by putting in time and effort (committing to a mile per day) they are more likely to establish the desire to protect their investment.
If you sit around all day and simply drink one less soda, you aren't investing anything. You think I am ignorant about caloric balance, but I am not.

 

[smackababy]

Walking is neither trivial in itself nor it is a stupid starter. I disagree with you. Now don't blow up on me.. Lots of anger on this forum

Walking a mile, in terms of weight loss, is entirely trivial. You are lucky to burn off a soda and waste a lot of time. You could literally just forgo a single soda and get more benefits than walking. If you're entire point, as the OP was trying to make, is that you have to start somewhere, starting with something that is unlikely to have any effect or any impact (even if you improved it over time to running 5 miles a day) on significant weight loss is a stupid starter.

Having said, rather, skip that last soda you were planning on having. Take out on soda a day and then after a week, up it to 2 or add another item, whatever. And eventually, you can bring that excessive amount of calories that is causing your weight gain, to a manageable number, without a giant decrease in comfort.

 

[Markbnj]

We don't need "here is a solution to this problem" when it isn't actually the fucking solution.

Well if it was labeled as "a soluition to this problem" why would you think it is actually "the fucking solution" unless you're a combative prick?

 

[smackababy]

Well if it was labeled as "a soluition to this problem" why would you think it is actually "the fucking solution" unless you're a combative prick?

You're right! I should not be so harsh in describing my distaste for someone saying "here is how to fix problem a: <not how to fix problem a>". Perhaps, I am only matching the enthusiasm found in the OP of the thread? He set the tone for using the word 'fuck', I am simply following suit.

 

[z1ggy]

Smack, just forget it dude. I was going to quote your post and try to support you here, but you're fighting an uphill battle.

How many of these people in here do you think actually have a clue??

Just swallow your pride and move on man.

 

[Markbnj]

You're right! I should not be so harsh in describing my distaste for someone saying "here is how to fix problem a: <not how to fix problem a>". Perhaps, I am only matching the enthusiasm found in the OP of the thread? He set the tone for using the word 'fuck', I am simply following suit.

So, just to put things into perspective for future generations who may study the archived text of this exchange: poster smackababy thought it was distasteful that poster Moonbogg suggested to overweight people that they could find success by walking. Smackababy feels it is stupid to start walking if you are overweight. End transcript.

 

[smackababy]

So, just to put things into perspective for future generations who may study the archived text of this exchange: poster smackababy thought it was distasteful that poster Moonbogg suggested to overweight people that they could find success by walking. Smackababy feels it is stupid to start walking if you are overweight. End transcript.

Exactly! And, it should be noted poster Markbnj was particularly lacking of reading comprehension on the day the above events happened.

 

[MrDudeMan]

So, just to put things into perspective for future generations who may study the archived text of this exchange: poster smackababy thought it was distasteful that poster Moonbogg suggested to overweight people that they could find success by walking. Smackababy feels it is stupid to start walking if you are overweight. End transcript.

You forgot the part where smackababy's sidekick swallowed.

 

[Markbnj]

Exactly! And, it should be noted poster Markbnj was particularly lacking of reading comprehension on the day the above events happened.

So noted. Let posterity judge as it will.

 

[Red Storm]

Walking a mile, in terms of weight loss, is entirely trivial. You are lucky to burn off a soda and waste a lot of time. You could literally just forgo a single soda and get more benefits than walking. If you're entire point, as the OP was trying to make, is that you have to start somewhere, starting with something that is unlikely to have any effect or any impact (even if you improved it over time to running 5 miles a day) on significant weight loss is a stupid starter.

Having said, rather, skip that last soda you were planning on having. Take out on soda a day and then after a week, up it to 2 or add another item, whatever. And eventually, you can bring that excessive amount of calories that is causing your weight gain, to a manageable number, without a giant decrease in comfort.

Wait, so working your way up to running 5 miles a day will have no impact? Really?

Exercise would help those who are overweight a lot more than skipping a soda would. Doing that exercise takes time and keeps you active. Skipping a soda gives you more time to sit around, and when fatties get bored they eat. Exercise and being physically active is a much better plan than skipping sodas.

 

[smackababy]

Wait, so working your way up to running 5 miles a day will have no impact? Really?

Exercise would help those who are overweight a lot more than skipping a soda would. Doing that exercise takes time and keeps you active. Skipping a soda gives you more time to sit around, and when fatties get bored they eat. Exercise and being physically active is a much better plan than skipping sodas.

Okay, you're right, it will have an impact, it just won't be one that is truly meaningful in getting you to a healthy weight, especially when a much better alternative is there. Skipping a single soda has the same effect as walking a single mile: it is a starter to a healthier lifestyle. Just as you would build up your distance and pace, you would build up your decrease in calories.

And btw, a 12oz soda is around 150 calores. 7 of those is a 1050 calorie deficit. If you were at exactly your maintenance, cutting that means you lose about 1/3 of a lb a week.

I am not saying exercise isn't important, because it is. But, a healthy diet, especially in terms of what the OP is saying (weight loss), is really the only thing that matters. You can run 5 miles a day and gain fat. You can't eat at a calorie deficit and do that.

 

[Red Storm]

Okay, you're right, it will have an impact, it just won't be one that is truly meaningful in getting you to a healthy weight, especially when a much better alternative is there. Skipping a single soda has the same effect as walking a single mile: it is a starter to a healthier lifestyle. Just as you would build up your distance and pace, you would build up your decrease in calories.

And btw, a 12oz soda is around 150 calores. 7 of those is a 1050 calorie deficit. If you were at exactly your maintenance, cutting that means you lose about 1/3 of a lb a week.

I am not saying exercise isn't important, because it is. But, a healthy diet, especially in terms of what the OP is saying (weight loss), is really the only thing that matters. You can run 5 miles a day and gain fat. You can't eat at a calorie deficit and do that.

No doubt both are important, but I think it's easier to go from exercise to changing your diet (aka skipping sodas), because with exercise they are actually investing their time and energy into physical activity, which will work wonders much faster than simply skipping out on some food which does nothing to diminish all the time spent inactive.

 

[smackababy]

No doubt both are important, but I think it's easier to go from exercise to changing your diet (aka skipping sodas), because with exercise they are actually investing their time and energy into physical activity, which will work wonders much faster than simply skipping out on some food which does nothing to diminish all the time spent inactive.

That "investing time and energy" is exactly why is isn't easier for most people. If the farthest you walk is from your front door to your car, walking a mile is going to be tough and rather uncomfortable. People hate discomfort. Skipping a single soda is hardly the same amount of discomfort. And slowly lowering your calories (ie, getting used to that lower amount) vs slowly ramping up your exercise is likely a lot easier for most people.

 

[Red Storm]

That "investing time and energy" is exactly why is isn't easier for most people. If the farthest you walk is from your front door to your car, walking a mile is going to be tough and rather uncomfortable. People hate discomfort. Skipping a single soda is hardly the same amount of discomfort. And slowly lowering your calories (ie, getting used to that lower amount) vs slowly ramping up your exercise is likely a lot easier for most people.

Walking a mile is as easy as pie, and I say this as someone who was overweight. I could walk for miles and miles even overweight, but changing my diet alone (with no exercise) didn't really work, because when all I would do is eat less, I still spent too much time just sitting behind the computer or watching movies and shows, and getting bored I'd find myself eating a little snack here and there without even realizing.

On the other hand, exercising actually took time and energy from my day. And after going on runs I felt very good, and that made me more likely to avoid fatty foods. Plus time spent exercising meant less time sitting at home (so less time to eat stuff). And I wasn't just losing weight, I was also improving my stamina and getting into better, more athletic shape. Just skipping sodas isn't really going to help with those last two things.

 

[purbeast0]

i dont know why you all are saying that "walking a mile is burning off a soda". that is flat out false. it will vary big time based on the person.

a 100lb girl walking 1 mile is going to burn off SIGNIFICANTLY less calories than a 400lb fatass if all other things are equal.

then you also have to realize that people's metabolisms as well as many other health factors will make how many calories are burnt during a mile walk.

it's hilarious reading "health" threads in this forum compared to the health/fitness forum on here. just SSSSSSOOOOOOO much wrong/misinformation in the ones in OT.

 

[purbeast0]

Walking a mile is as easy as pie, and I say this as someone who was overweight. I could walk for miles and miles even overweight, but changing my diet alone (with no exercise) didn't really work, because when all I would do is eat less, I still spent too much time just sitting behind the computer or watching movies and shows, and getting bored I'd find myself eating a little snack here and there without even realizing.

On the other hand, exercising actually took time and energy from my day. And after going on runs I actually felt good, and that made me more likely to avoid fatty foods. and I wasn't just losing weight, I was also improving my stamina and getting into better, more athletic shape. Just skipping sodas isn't really going to help with those last two things.

and on the flipside, i leaned up last year from 215lbs to 200lbs over a 3-4 month period by doing absolutely no cardio and strictly changed my diet.

you were doing it wrong (in regards to your first paragraph). you even said you would "eat less" but then said you would snack more... that makes no sense, because you wouldn't be eating less if snacking more.

 

[Red Storm]

and on the flipside, i leaned up last year from 215lbs to 200lbs over a 3-4 month period by doing absolutely no cardio and strictly changed my diet.

you were doing it wrong (in regards to your first paragraph). you even said you would "eat less" but then said you would snack more... that makes no sense, because you wouldn't be eating less if snacking more.

I know I was doing it wrong, that's kinda my point. I would try and eat less, but my real problem was that I was too inactive, sitting on the computer or watching movies and shows. And in those times I would get bored, and might grab a bite of something or whatever, sometimes without even realizing. You don't think about this stuff when you're overweight. But exercising takes you away from that. Unless you're doing laps in the kitchen, you're going to be at the gym or outside where there is no food within reach. So for me it worked a lot better.

I'm just saying that focusing on exercise first is the better/easier route for an overweight person to take (at least I certainly think so). Ideally you do both exercise and proper diet from the get go, but in an ideal world you would already be doing those things and not be overweight to begin with.

 

[PenguinPower]

i dont know why you all are saying that "walking a mile is burning off a soda". that is flat out false. it will vary big time based on the person.

a 100lb girl walking 1 mile is going to burn off SIGNIFICANTLY less calories than a 400lb fatass if all other things are equal.

then you also have to realize that people's metabolisms as well as many other health factors will make how many calories are burnt during a mile walk.

it's hilarious reading "health" threads in this forum compared to the health/fitness forum on here. just SSSSSSOOOOOOO much wrong/misinformation in the ones in OT.

Yep. You can estimate net calories burn = .30 x your weight x distance (in miles).

1 mile for an average adult male burns a net of 48 calories.
1 mile for the fatass adult male above burns a net of 120 calories.

 

[Maximilian]

I'm not bullshitting you. If you are over weight and feel helpless and overwhelmed with the issue, if you feel that it is pointless to even try, then you came to the right thread.
People weren't always over weight, but now they are. The reason isn't important. Really, it isn't. The solution is all that matters now. That solution consists of two principles: Simplicity and Consistency.
Fuck the diet. Forget about it. Change it later, or don't. You need something that you can actually do, but more importantly, something you can do on a regular basis.
Exercise is your solution. If you are desperate and willing to go to any length to lose weight, then you will try the following because it worked for me, and that's more than what you got right now, right?

After reading this post, you will go outside and walk 1 mile. Find a track or don't. Just walk a mile. Jog a little if you can. Go easy. If it hurts, its bad because you won't do something that hurts.

Do it again tomorrow.

Do it again the next day.

Do it to save your very life and to preserve your quality of life. Fuck everyone else on earth and what they think. This is your fitness and you will own it.

Cant out exercise a bad diet

 

[Red Storm]

a 100lb girl walking 1 mile is going to burn off SIGNIFICANTLY less calories than a 400lb fatass if all other things are equal.

I don't remember the thread title being "Are you a skinny girl?"

 

[purbeast0]

Yep. You can estimate net calories burn = .30 x your weight x distance (in miles).

1 mile for an average adult male burns a net of 48 calories.
1 mile for the fatass adult male above burns a net of 120 calories.

and this is just as false as other claims being made in this thread.

running 1 mile vs walking 1 mile vs jogging 1 mile all will have totally different calories burnt when it's all said and done.

oh, and your calculations are also WAY off in general right there.

 

[z1ggy]

Yep. You can estimate net calories burn = .30 x your weight x distance (in miles).

1 mile for an average adult male burns a net of 48 calories.
1 mile for the fatass adult male above burns a net of 120 calories.

What about the speed at which that distance is covered?? Where is this .30 thing coming from?

If a man walks a mile in 10 mins, then runs the same mile again in 5 minutes, are you trying to tell me he burns the same amount of calories?

Edit: N/m purebeast beat me to it. Shit, I just couldn't resist. Gotta remain strong and not try to lash out at all the poop being spewed forth by some folks in here. Pray for me while I try to just lurk.