Are you doing anything to "Go Green"?

[djheater]

Not paying attention to the rest of the thread, just responding to the question about being green.

We started a large garden to supplement our produce, I'm going to try out canning this fall and see what I can make last hrough winter.
I have two rain barrels waiting to be installed for the purpose of supplementeing the garden's watering needs and reducing runoff.

This fall I will be preparing a plot for a rain garden. A method of increasing the drainage and water storage cpabilities of landscape. Turf doesn't store water very well due to its shallow roots.

I recycle pretty much everything I can, luckily we have mixed recycling (I'm not sure I want to know how\if they sort it )

CFLs everywhere as well.

 

[jaqie]

djheater: if you like potatoes and are up to growing them, put a concrete culvert in the ground with a cover and over that a couple bays of straw and you have a great storage bin for taters for most of / all winter. Thats what we had growing up, and we never bought potatoes, despite using them in every meal. I miss 'em, we had our own kind we had been breeding for a while (20+ years)...very good.

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: jaqie
The problem I have is not with being wrong. Ive been corrected before, amicably, in other places in this forum and abroad. Anyone thinking they are infallable is fooling themselves. The problem I have is with his additude. that is what the issue is about. Seomone is not a tool to correct someone. Someone is a tool in how it is done.

You also state I am "not an expert" in electrical theory and practical application. While I am not an expert, I know much more in that particular field then it may seem, proven by my other posts in areas where the math does matter. I was, as I said several times here, making an anecdotal post, and did not even think about the number I entered for several reasons, the main one being this thread was not about precise numbers but simply "going green" and going from a Sun GDM-5410 21" CRT to an Acer AL2216W LCD definitely qualifies, so I threw up some numbers and made a quick post. If I had any idea someone would go apeshit over a damn anecdotal post, I never would have put in a number in the first place. If I had been making a paper on the subject you bet your butt I would have looked up the numbers, but it was a simple quick & dirty post in a non-technical thread about saving resources, nothing more.

I don't see where he had any kind of attitude (nor does he show any problem with his 'additude' as he seems to have a pretty good grip on mathematics. ) He was perfectly amicable from what I read. To say he "went apeshit" is absurd. On the other hand, your response to him would more reasonable qualify as "going apeshit." Your attacks on him weren't warranted, considering his posts. None of his posts were anything but fact, without any attacks on you personally. Your posts, on the other hand, were direct attacks on him and sounded like a tantruming child who can't stand to be wrong.

Do you understand that when he said (in so many words) "Wow! Your numbers must be off! Your monitor would melt if it used that much power!" you could have simply said "Whoops, my bad, my numbers were off!" instead of getting pissy with him?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I've started eating people. They're soylently delicious.

 

[Bryophyte]

Ok, back on the subject at hand, I do a lot of things to 'go green'. Some examples:

-Growing a huge garden and orchard and small fruits (several kinds of berries, kiwifruit, rhubarb, etc) mostly organically, compost all of the weeds and feed extras to my hens
-Recycling about everything I can, taking stuff to Goodwill that I don't need that is reusable, handing down outgrown children's clothes to friends/family
-Replacing my appliances with highly energy efficient models when they need to be replaced (ie: Whirlpool Duet washer/dryer, energy efficient fridge) and will continue to do so (need to replace my deep freezer and dishwasher sometime in the next 12 months)
-Get usable things from others that would otherwise go to the landfill or get recycled after only one use, and use them instead of buying new things, such as old deck lumber, nursery pots, egg cartons
-Mulch or compost lawn clippings and weeds
-We bought a wood chipper (with a 30% state tax credit from the DEQ) so we can chip woody material instead of burn it, and use the chips on trails and tentsites in our forest, for landscaping, and under our kids' play structure
-Upgraded a commuting vehicle (F-150 @ about 50 miles a day) to a hybrid (just got it last week)
-Most fixtures use CFLs (switched over about 7 or 8 years ago)
-Replaced a tv and two monitors with LCDs
-Rearranged schedules to reduce the number of trips we have to take to town by about half
-Working on installing a drip irrigation system in my greenhouse and for potted plants and hanging baskets on our deck/patio area
-Planting several hundred trees each year on our property
-Replaced all of the windows in our home with good, insulated ones
-Try to buy well made products so that we don't have to throw out and replace things all the time (tools, small/large appliances, cookware, furniture, etc)

I'm sure there's a lot of stuff I'm forgetting. I don't hang my clothes to dry on a clothesline anymore because we live near a gravel road that generates insane amounts of dust, and our outdoor dogs would add to the filth. I miss that, but at least our washer/dryer is very efficient.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
I'm not planning on "Going Green". However, I will continue "Going Cheap". Occasionally these green ideals overlap with my cheap ideals.

Ha ha, same here.

As for going green, I wear a green t-shirt once in a while and that's about as far as it goes.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: jaqie
The problem I have is not with being wrong. Ive been corrected before, amicably, in other places in this forum and abroad. Anyone thinking they are infallable is fooling themselves. The problem I have is with his additude. that is what the issue is about. Seomone is not a tool to correct someone. Someone is a tool in how it is done.

You also state I am "not an expert" in electrical theory and practical application. While I am not an expert, I know much more in that particular field then it may seem, proven by my other posts in areas where the math does matter. I was, as I said several times here, making an anecdotal post, and did not even think about the number I entered for several reasons, the main one being this thread was not about precise numbers but simply "going green" and going from a Sun GDM-5410 21" CRT to an Acer AL2216W LCD definitely qualifies, so I threw up some numbers and made a quick post. If I had any idea someone would go apeshit over a damn anecdotal post, I never would have put in a number in the first place. If I had been making a paper on the subject you bet your butt I would have looked up the numbers, but it was a simple quick & dirty post in a non-technical thread about saving resources, nothing more.

You need to go Amish. That'd really help the world.

 

[BW86]

poll?

no.

 

[legoman666]

Originally posted by: jaqie
Anubis: I still think he's upset over a discussion we had in PM about his self-built computer case. I think I hurt his feelings when I told him (after he bragged about it being efficient in space usage) how he could improve the space usage in nearly every aspect. I was trying to help but he must have taken it personally. That's the only explination I can come up with off-hand, anyway, unless he is just a tool at heart, which is also possible.

I complimented you on your ideas:

Me to Jaqiue in PM
That actually is a good layout! Could probably shave ~4-5 inches off the height of the case [with that layout].

Note how it was a PM...

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
legoman666 said/did nothing wrong. He just cleared up an error. jaqie just got a little too defensive.

Originally posted by: Bryophyte
He wasn't being a tool, he was correcting obvious mistakes in your estimation.

Thank you.

 

[imported_Imp]

No extra effort. I guess you could say I am 'green' by not having any A/C. That's more of a cheapness thing though. Still, if we had it, I wouldn't turn it on most of the summer. Oh, and I turn my computer off at night so it doesn't explode when I'm not looking...

 

[adairusmc]

I water my grass.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

The smug is strong in this thread...

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
I've started eating people. They're soylently delicious.

I see what you did there and award you five FoBoT-endorsed Balls of Plasma?.

 

[Imported]

Everything I do to try and be green is probably offset by the 6 bottles of water I drink at work a day (Brita at home).

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Got a bin for throwing recycleable paper in since most of my trash is junk mail. I only take the bin to the corner about once a month. Aside from that, I don't use much. The A/C is probably going to be what uses the most power in my house until November rolls around. I don't do things because of global warming as much as I'm concerned about overall waste and cost. Reducing needs reduces the need to upgrade the infrastructure. I live close enough to my work that my commute over 250 working days (1 year) if I drove every day, including to and from lunch, only ends up being about 1800 miles. I do more mileage going to help out family members. And no, I'm not exaggerating.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: jaqie
A bunch of little stuff ive always done. One recent thing is switching from a 21" CRT that takes 4-5 amps, to an LCD that takes 50 watts. Other little stuff Ive always done is all there.

Amps and watts are two completely different units. In fact, amps aren't a measure of energy use at all. You might as well talk about saving energy by going from a car that has 8 cylinders to one that has 4 cupholders.

ZV

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Nothing. My room uses a lamp from Ikea which has a main 150W halogen bulb + 40W reflector (incandescent). I replaced my broken 40W fluorescent desk lamp with a 50W halogen from Ikea also.

Instead of unplugging my 19" LCD once I got my Dell 2707, I left both plugged in to get dual monitors at the expense of precious deskspace meaning I still do my HW on my lap or on a clipboard or in bed.

I didn't like my living room only having 1 fluorescent lamp so I added the Ikea lamp I have in my room (I bought a 2nd one) which uses halogen. I love halogen. I hate fluorescent and the ugly color tones.

At home, my parents have CFLs installed in the light fixtures above their computers, but mine remains a incandescent floodlight.

In my 3 years living in an apartmetn i've almost never recycled. I don't have time to sort through 5 different bins. At home i'll recycle though because in the South Bay we have just 1 bin so I dump everything in there for recycling.

I'm terrible. Shoot me please.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: jaqie
A bunch of little stuff ive always done. One recent thing is switching from a 21" CRT that takes 4-5 amps, to an LCD that takes 50 watts. Other little stuff Ive always done is all there.

Amps and watts are two completely different units. In fact, amps aren't a measure of energy use at all. You might as well talk about saving energy by going from a car that has 8 cylinders to one that has 4 cupholders.

ZV

idiot.

less cup holders=less trash=less cutting down trees


sheesh.

:beer:

 

[Terabyte]

Originally posted by: DLeRium
snip -

I'm terrible. Shoot me please.

Burnnnnnnnnnnn him! :evil:

just kidding

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Terabyte

Originally posted by: DLeRium
snip -

I'm terrible. Shoot me please.

Burnnnnnnnnnnn him! :evil:

just kidding

Yeah I just feel unmotivated to go green unless of course it's beneficial to me. I'm a bit self centered. Hey, although I wouldn't mind getting a hybrid car... but of course it's not time yet for me to buy a car yet.

 

[child of wonder]

We've replaced almost all of our light bulbs with CFL. They'll pay for themselves in about 2 years and we plan on living in our house for 5 or more.

I used to have 3 servers plus a Linux router running 24/7 and now I have a single server running with VMWare server on it so I no longer need multiple boxes running if I want to toy with OSes and a Fit-PC as my Linux router.

These changes have probably eliminated at least $10 per month from our electric bill or $600 from the ~5 years we'll be in our house.

 

[Random Variable]

I poop in the backyard.

 

[Chiropteran]

I'm never going to vacuum my room or clean the bathroom ever again, to save electricity/water. I'd say the same about washing my car, but hell I have never washed my car so that is nothing new.

Instead of wastefully washing dishes, I'm just going to eat out, order chinese, or order pizza.

To conserve water, from now on I'm only going to drink Coke or Mountain Dew.

I'm going to save the recycling truck from having to visit my house by putting everything in the general trash.

I'm not going to ever compose new email, to conserve TCP/IP packets. Instead, whenever I want to email someone I'm going to forward an email I already have and just replace to subject and body.

I'm going to save as little money as possible, so that less memory is required to keep track of my bank balance.

Anyone have some other suggestions?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran
I'm never going to vacuum my room or clean the bathroom ever again, to save electricity/water. I'd say the same about washing my car, but hell I have never washed my car so that is nothing new.

Instead of wastefully washing dishes, I'm just going to eat out, order chinese, or order pizza.

To conserve water, from now on I'm only going to drink Coke or Mountain Dew.

I'm going to save the recycling truck from having to visit my house by putting everything in the general trash.

I'm not going to ever compose new email, to conserve TCP/IP packets. Instead, whenever I want to email someone I'm going to forward an email I already have and just replace to subject and body.

I'm going to save as little money as possible, so that it's less memory is required to keep track of my bank balance.

Anyone have some other suggestions?

Stop bathing. Use Febreze to hide your musk. I recommend Apple Cinammon, so every time you enter a room people will perk up and say, "Oooh, who's making cookies?"

 

[Lounatik]

Living in Atlanta and seeing the water problems we have had the past few years prompted me to change how I use the resources available to me. I changed out my gas water heater for an on demand electric water heater. Changed out all of my incan lites for CFL's, got a front loading washer that probably uses at most a gallon of water per wash. Changed my route to work and saved 6 miles each way,especially since my truck gets about 16 mpg (would that be a carbon offset? Stupid greenies) Replaced all of my toilet fixtures to water saving flushers,use about half the amount of water per flush, but with more force. Also changed out all my shower heads to water savers. I guess like above posts stated, its not so much going green as much as saving green. Plus I realize that I have no need to use 25 gallons of water taking a shower when I could be using 10 gallons. Also the advancement of CFL's have come so far in so little time. I cannot believe that these lights put out the quality of light that approaches incans.

I am not a tree hugger nor a hippie, all I realized was that I could keep on living the way I do and not be as wasteful. Wasn't too hard to do.


Peace

Lounatik