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Gibson486

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Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: jaqie
A bunch of little stuff ive always done. One recent thing is switching from a 21" CRT that takes 4-5 amps, to an LCD that takes 50 watts. Other little stuff Ive always done is all there.

There is no way in hell that a 21" CRT is sucking up 4-5 amps. Its heat output would be rediculous. It may have a startup power draw of 4-5 amps, but there is no way that's its continuous power usage.

hahahah...that is what I was thinking....that is all most as much amperage as a really small air conditioner.
 

legoman666

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: jaqie
A bunch of little stuff ive always done. One recent thing is switching from a 21" CRT that takes 4-5 amps, to an LCD that takes 50 watts. Other little stuff Ive always done is all there.

There is no way in hell that a 21" CRT is sucking up 4-5 amps. Its heat output would be rediculous. It may have a startup power draw of 4-5 amps, but there is no way that's its continuous power usage.

i used to run dual 21 in CRTs in the winter i didnt need to have the heat on in my room, they DO use that much power and have an insane heat output

see my edit.

4-5A = 480-600w. That much heat output would melt the monitor casing.
 

TallBill

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I run both quad cores 24/7 and drive a 19 mpg car. I usually leave at least one light on somewhere in the apartment by accident whenever I leave.
 

jaqie

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Originally posted by: legoman666
There is no way in hell that a 21" CRT is sucking up 4-5 amps. Its heat output would be rediculous. It may have a startup power draw of 4-5 amps, but there is no way that's its continuous power usage.
It was a guestimate, since it is no longer here, and yes, I was stating the power-on draw from when the flyback pulls extra power to get to operational voltage. That electricity is used, whether you like to admit it or not. I did not say the amperage I posted was a constant draw, did I? No, I did not. I didn't realize everything I posted here had to be scientifically 5 decimal place accurate, either. calm down.
 

Crucial

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Only if it saves me money. Money that I can spend on gas in my ATV. I love my 2 stroke lawn mower and snowblower and bought spares since they aren't making them anymore.

My wife keeps trying to get me to recycle but I don't see the point since the garbage men throw it all in the same truck.

I do make sure that when I'm camping or on an ATV trip I don't leave trash behind in the woods. I can't stand seeing cancer stick wrappers and beer/soda cans strewn about the woods.
 

Nitemare

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Not really. I've always recycled glass, plastics and paper. That is about the extent of my willingness to go green.
 

legoman666

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Originally posted by: legoman666
There is no way in hell that a 21" CRT is sucking up 4-5 amps. Its heat output would be rediculous. It may have a startup power draw of 4-5 amps, but there is no way that's its continuous power usage.
It was a guestimate, since it is no longer here, and yes, I was stating the power-on draw from when the flyback pulls extra power to get to operational voltage. That electricity is used, whether you like to admit it or not. I did not say the amperage I posted was a constant draw, did I? No, I did not. I didn't realize everything I posted here had to be scientifically 5 decimal place accurate, either. calm down.

4-5a is not off by "5 decimal places of accuracy", it's off by a factor of 3-4.

4-5a for .2 seconds is almost nothing. 5a @ 120v for 1 second is a whopping 0.17w.
 

jaqie

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Since it seems I have to be extremely precise everywhere even when just giving an anecdote to please some people...
GDM-5410 power specifications:
Power Consumption Operating Voltage Input Current Input Power BTU/hr
115 VAC 90 - 132 2.0 A (max) 130W (typical), 160W (max) 544
 

xboxist

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Jun 25, 2002
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I've stopped buying bottled water and went Brita. Now I carry a water container thing around with me.
 

legoman666

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Originally posted by: jaqie
FFS it was an anecdotal post, get over yourself.

Lol, you claiming a 21" CRT draws 4-5A is like me saying my '89 Toyota gets 150mpg. Anyway, off to class.
 

K1052

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Not intentionally.

I take public trans because it can actually take longer to get to work by car and I don't want to shell out $175 a month for parking at my workplace plus now the $4+ per gallon premium gas now commands in the city. It is still pretty rare for me to do much driving in general.

I turn off everything in my condo when I leave except my computer mainly in the name of lower electric bills.
 

moparacer

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We have tried to cut back on electricity use as much as possible. Switched all the bulbs in the house over to fluorecents, I put clothes lines up in the basement so to cut back on dryer usage, turned hot water heats setting back, shut computers off at night etc. Mostly in the name of the almighty $$$ rather then going green.



 

lokiju

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I feel like punching people in the throat that use the phrase "Going Green"

It has jumped the shark and continues to do so.

I've never lived a life of excessive waste, wtf should I make my life full of inconveniences so I can jump on the new bandwagon?

 

jaqie

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Anubis: I still think he's upset over a discussion we had in PM about his self-built computer case. I think I hurt his feelings when I told him (after he bragged about it being efficient in space usage) how he could improve the space usage in nearly every aspect. I was trying to help but he must have taken it personally. That's the only explination I can come up with off-hand, anyway, unless he is just a tool at heart, which is also possible.
 

Bignate603

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Originally posted by: Anubis
there really is no point seeing how much other countries pollute, a few million yuppy stuck up americans going green really isnt going to make any difference

If everybody thought like you we wouldn't get anywhere.
 

PingSpike

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I'm not planning on "Going Green". However, I will continue "Going Cheap". Occasionally these green ideals overlap with my cheap ideals.
 
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legoman666 said/did nothing wrong. He just cleared up an error. jaqie just got a little too defensive.

It was a guestimate, since it is no longer here, and yes, I was stating the power-on draw from when the flyback pulls extra power to get to operational voltage. That electricity is used, whether you like to admit it or not. I did not say the amperage I posted was a constant draw, did I? No, I did not. I didn't realize everything I posted here had to be scientifically 5 decimal place accurate, either. calm down.

There is no way anyone could have deduced that from your (jaqie) initial post:

One recent thing is switching from a 21" CRT that takes 4-5 amps, to an LCD that takes 50 watts. Other little stuff Ive always done is all there.

Most people would assume you are talking about its power consumption under normal use. Either way it's a non-issue. A made an error (or was unclear) and B corrected them (or clarified things). Let's not call legoman666 a tool with 'hurt feelings over his computer case' because that is not what it is here.
 

Bateluer

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I've switched to almost all CFL bulbs, though I leave my computers powered on 24/7.

During the summer, though, I keep my AC set at 78-80, but this is in the name of the dollar than anything else.
 

Bryophyte

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Anubis: I still think he's upset over a discussion we had in PM about his self-built computer case. I think I hurt his feelings when I told him (after he bragged about it being efficient in space usage) how he could improve the space usage in nearly every aspect. I was trying to help but he must have taken it personally. That's the only explination I can come up with off-hand, anyway, unless he is just a tool at heart, which is also possible.

He wasn't being a tool, he was correcting obvious mistakes in your estimation. You like to tell people that you get your 32 posts per day because you're "helping people out." Well, he was "helping you out" by educating you on a subject that you aren't an expert in.

You're on a technical forum that's full of engineering students and computer geeks. If you can't take somebody correcting your math without getting so defensive, then you're on the wrong forum. Perhaps one that caters to some other type of interests would be a better fit for you. Maybe a health forum?
 

jaqie

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The problem I have is not with being wrong. Ive been corrected before, amicably, in other places in this forum and abroad. Anyone thinking they are infallable is fooling themselves. The problem I have is with his additude. that is what the issue is about. Seomone is not a tool to correct someone. Someone is a tool in how it is done.

You also state I am "not an expert" in electrical theory and practical application. While I am not an expert, I know much more in that particular field then it may seem, proven by my other posts in areas where the math does matter. I was, as I said several times here, making an anecdotal post, and did not even think about the number I entered for several reasons, the main one being this thread was not about precise numbers but simply "going green" and going from a Sun GDM-5410 21" CRT to an Acer AL2216W LCD definitely qualifies, so I threw up some numbers and made a quick post. If I had any idea someone would go apeshit over a damn anecdotal post, I never would have put in a number in the first place. If I had been making a paper on the subject you bet your butt I would have looked up the numbers, but it was a simple quick & dirty post in a non-technical thread about saving resources, nothing more.
 

BKLounger

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i've gone "green" when it can either save me money or make my life easier.

I've started taking my bike to work instead of taking the train. I also set up a cardboard box in my apartment to throw my redemption cans in (without the box i would never remember and would throw out at least 2-3 bucks a month in cans). I've also instead of throwing my old electronics or old unused stuff in a trash bag. There is a free box in the lobby of my building where people can leave and take stuff, I just leave it all there and people always take it. I've also started using stop and shop bags as trash bags for the small barrels in my apartment as well.

That is about as green as i can go for now.