Are Richland desktops pre-ready?

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myocardia

myocardia

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NTMBK said:
-Photoshop
-Battlefield 3
-Final Cut Pro X
-GIMP
-Handbrake
-ImageMagick
-Mathematica 8
-Vegas Pro 11
-VLC
-WinZip

Either you're trolling, or you just know nothing about software... :\
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Either you're trolling, or you have no idea what this icon: ;) means...

edit: Remember, the person I quoted said they'd never heard of any of this software, except Photoshop.:)
 
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Arkadrel

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ShintaiDK said:
Your list is a fine example that proves my point. Cuda, OpenCL, DirectCompute, HSA etc. All hyped up beyond the sky. Reality is they are a tiny tiny tiny niche with extreme limited functionality due to their natural limitations. Even if they expanded 1000x they would not even account for 1%.
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That list was old and dated, and probably missing alot of programs on it.
Also it wasnt for CUDA or DirectCompute, it was only OpenCL.

Tiny tiny niche market?

I use VLC daily, and winzip. Adobe Flash videos when browseing.
Occassionally I use photoshop.

They are heavy used programs (for me), that are makeing use of OpenCL.
To me that doesnt sound like a tiny niche, or extreme limited functionality, their a big part of my daily pc usage.
 
NTMBK

NTMBK

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myocardia said:
Either you're trolling, or you have no idea what this icon: ;) means...

edit: Remember, the person I quoted said they'd never heard of any of this software, except Photoshop.:)
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Hah, sorry about that. Easy to misinterpret intent on the internet. :)
 
inf64

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It was just announced of course it's "paper launch". It takes at least a week(probably more) before major US and EU distributors got them.

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http://www.edbpriser.dk/baerbar/msi-gx60-3ae-210ne-id-7289037.aspx
It states it's GX60 but under specs it lists Richland but old 7970m GPU :)

Two reviews for "older" Trinity based model:
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/msi-gx60.aspx
Verdict

Click to EnlargeBudget minded gamers should no doubt give the GX60 a serious look. Its impressive "Batman: Arkham City" scores alone should tell you that this AMD workhorse is no slouch. The 1080p matte screen makes movies and games look like candy for your retinas, while its keyboard and cool palmrest will be welcome homes for your hands while you taunt your LAN-mates after fragging them. Our main beefs with this rig are its thick (and somewhat gaudy) design, small touchpad, and non-backlit keyboard.
MSI's opus won't touch triple-digit framerates like the recently reviewed Maingear Nomad 17, but that $2,599 system also costs over a grand more than the GX60. Moreover, in some of our gaming tests, this MSI bested the more expensive ASUS G75VW-DS71 and held its own against the Digital Storm X17, both of which cost hundreds more than the GX60. It may not be an unstoppable beast that tears through category averages like a rottweiler through a steak, but at $1,426, the GX60 offers a healthy dose of pew pew while stopping short of making your bank account cry.
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http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6740&p=2
Conclusion At the end of the day the MSI GX60 is a very capable gaming notebook that delivers great value with a few minor shortcomings. It's nice to see MSI include useful extras like a gaming mouse and backpack, but considering the gaming audience we would have liked to see an even better keyboard (one with backlighting) and a larger touchpad. We also found the MSI bloatware created annoying pop-ups at times when we didn't expect them.
The AMD A-series processor might not be the fastest or most powerful on the market, but most users will never notice the difference between the A10 processor in this notebook and an Intel Core i7 in a more expensive gaming notebook. In fact, thanks to the HD 7970M graphics inside the GX60, real-world gaming performance is on par with much more expensive notebooks.
Bottom line, if you're looking for a gaming rig that delivers excellent bag for your bucks then the GX60 should probably be at the top of your list.
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Gunbuster

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Got to end of thread. Still trying to figure out what "pre-ready" means.

Son i am disappoint
 
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SiliconWars

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I can't remember the last chip from any company that wasn't paper launched. Seems to be par for the course these days.
 
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I suppose a better description would be "not quite in stores yet." I just couldn't think of a concise way to say it other than "paper launch."
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Or in finer detail, paper launch is pretty much when NDA lifts and the item becomes an official product. From there its however long it takes AMD to get the product to store shelves.
 
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Exophase

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I wonder if this will be like desktop Trinity where it isn't reviewed for months (except a preview by THG) despite being available for sale in some areas. Seems like these days no one wants to review something if it means having to buy it themselves instead of getting a test unit..
 
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Sleepingforest

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I'm surprised that it's Basemark CL score is not much higher than the Pentium's, considering that the bench is based on OpenCL and mostly GPU based. On the other hand, those are pretty good framerates for what is supposed to be a low-end chip (though I can't speak for the rigor of the test).
 
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mikk

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Sleepingforest said:
I'm surprised that it's Basemark CL score is not much higher than the Pentium's, considering that the bench is based on OpenCL and mostly GPU based.
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Intel has an advantage in OpenCL Benchmarks. However this test is noobish because there is no driver or system hint.
 
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Sleepingforest

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mikk said:
Intel has an advantage in OpenCL Benchmarks. However this test is noobish because there is no driver or system hint.
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Why does Intel get the advantage? Is it just historic, or what (genuinely curious how this came to be here)? I agree with you on the noobishness of the benches; no other information on the system makes the whole thing pretty useless.
 
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mikk

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Sleepingforest said:
Why does Intel get the advantage? Is it just historic, or what (genuinely curious how this came to be here)? I agree with you on the noobishness of the benches; no other information on the system makes the whole thing pretty useless.
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Their OpenCL drivers are faster since 15.31. Ivy Bridge beat the much faster A10-5800K in a couple of OpenCL Benchmarks. That's why it is important to know what drivers they used.
 
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inf64 said:
Two reviews for "older" Trinity based model:
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/msi-gx60.aspx


http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6740&p=2
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From notebookcheck

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GX60-Notebook.86283.0.html

All said, we regrettably cannot recommend the GX60 as a gaming machine for the enthusiast (on a budget). As our benchmark course illustrates, the lame AMD CPU affects the performance of the Radeon HD 7970M greatly in some gaming tests. The performance loss is so high in some areas that the frame rate drops to a that of a middle-level GPU.

We would have expected a more sensible hardware setup from an alleged gaming expert. The surprisingly low price is no argument.
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Their review is much more through and involves more games.
 
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