Are Apple/Android flame wars the new 3dfx/Nvidia?

[Staples]

I just love the fanboys in the Apple vs PC arguments. Most have never used the competing platform but they can still say that their competition is crap.

Own iPad 4, iPhone 5, Apple TV and Macbook Pro, few Android devices, built many PCs since the 90s.

Prefer iPad, Windows, iPhone

Anyway, they all have their pros and cons but as I said, most fanboys are uninformed, they just know Apple sucks even though the vast majority of them have never used anything Apple. I stay out knowing that I would be arguing with idiots.

 

[Staples]

And for the anti Apple fanboys who demand to know somel things that iOS does well and Android doesn't.

Find my iPhone although I hear Android finally has some sort of implementation (years later)
iMessage is way better than SMS/MMS (Android has yet to copy)
Battery life. My iPad lasts for weeks on standby. No Android tablet comes close unless you put it in airplane mode.
Not sure if you can make Android show it but iPhone shows you the charge of your bluetooth devices
iPhone shows you when you have no internet connectivity and that is great because I have Sprint which sucks and I used to sit there trying to load stuff and the phone could have just told me not to waste my time

Android does stuff that iOS can't but it isn't exactly mainstream stuff that the mainstream users demand. I miss the tethering I could do when I had an ANdroid phone but don't miss the NFC (because I never used it).

 

[thejunglegod]

I think it's LOL / DOTA2.

 

[CZroe]

It happens any place where you can often choose only one. Regardless of whether or not you made the right decision, you attempt to justify it, especially if you made your decision based on what you used before.

Kids could often only have one current generation videogame console, hence, the console wars.

PC nerds could only use one current-gen gaming card in their primary system.

MMORPG fans didn't have the time/money for two subs, so we got Everquest 2 vs. WoW followed by many more clashes.

People typically can use and carry only ONE daily smartphone.

 

[StrangerGuy]

With regards to the title both cases are not even close. Apple vs Android has their own fair share of merits and faults. Nvidia however pretty much destroyed 3dfx with TNT2 onwards.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Picked up the 5s this morning. As is typical with a "S" revision, the changes are relatively minor. It's probably the least pronounced iterative release yet. The 3gs and 4s offered performance increased that were very apparent in the UI, so everything felt faster. In this case, the 5 never really demonstrated any general UI lag or other performance shortcomings, so I cant really perceive that I'm using a new phone. The fingerprint scanner is pretty awesome though. It's only registered one miss today when I used the very tip of my finger, but it is very well implemented, and just works. Will be interesting to see how the industry reacts to this since Apple bought the company that developed this technology, and presumably the patents as well. The two tone flash also works really well and maintaining color balance on indoor shots, and the slowmo video is a neat feature as well, though I cant imagine myself using that much.

 

[WelshBloke]

... The fingerprint scanner is pretty awesome though. It's only registered one miss today when I used the very tip of my finger, but it is very well implemented, and just works. Will be interesting to see how the industry reacts to this since Apple bought the company that developed this technology, and presumably the patents as well...

It's a CMOS sensor isn't it? It'll be more interesting to monitor the longevity of the chip really.

 

[Murloc]

I wouldn't make bets on the duration of the sensor.
It's good that it works well, the one on my laptop misses if I don't swipe it in the exact same way I did when I registered the fingerprint, it's a different technology though, it's probably not refined much.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Picked up the 5s this morning. As is typical with a "S" revision, the changes are relatively minor. It's probably the least pronounced iterative release yet. The 3gs and 4s offered performance increased that were very apparent in the UI, so everything felt faster. In this case, the 5 never really demonstrated any general UI lag or other performance shortcomings, so I cant really perceive that I'm using a new phone. The fingerprint scanner is pretty awesome though. It's only registered one miss today when I used the very tip of my finger, but it is very well implemented, and just works. Will be interesting to see how the industry reacts to this since Apple bought the company that developed this technology, and presumably the patents as well. The two tone flash also works really well and maintaining color balance on indoor shots, and the slowmo video is a neat feature as well, though I cant imagine myself using that much.

 

[lxskllr]

Additionally, court precedent has ruled that using a key, or in this case a fingerprint doesn't allow a fifth amendment claim, since it isn't in your head. With a password, you have a chance at disallowing decryption of your device.

 

[Mixolydian]

I don't know about you, but I certainly have nothing to hide.

 

[lxskllr]

I don't know about you, but I certainly have nothing to hide.

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/0...is-the-wrong-way-to-think-about-surveillance/

 

[Mixolydian]

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/0...is-the-wrong-way-to-think-about-surveillance/

tl;dr. i'm a law abiding citizen who pays taxes, blah blah blah. im the most boring person in the world. search me all you want.

 

[lxskllr]

tl;dr. i'm a law abiding citizen who pays taxes, blah blah blah. im the most boring person in the world. search me all you want.

I'm me. Fuck off and come back with a warrant. I have everything to hide because I'm an asshole, and that's the way I like it. That's the dignity every human should get, and those that try to violate it should get a bullet in the head.

 

[SlitheryDee]

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/0...is-the-wrong-way-to-think-about-surveillance/

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”


― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

 

[lxskllr]

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”


― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

Exactly. When everything's illegal, or can be interpreted as such, handling "problems" becomes easy. You watch your enemy for a little while(or search the database), and charge them with some crimes. It's functionally the same as a dictatorship, where they pick you up for no reason at all.

 

[Mixolydian]

I'm me. Fuck off and come back with a warrant. I have everything to hide because I'm an asshole, and that's the way I like it. That's the dignity every human should get, and those that try to violate it should get a bullet in the head.

If people want to waste their time and $$$ on me, that's their prerogative. I will continue to live my life.

 

[SlitheryDee]

If people want to waste their time and $$$ on me, that's their prerogative. I will continue to live my life.

I actually exclude apple from this consideration, mostly because they explicitly stated that the fingerprint data would only be stored on the actual phone and nowhere else. I believe that this statement is independently verifiable, and will be extensively probed in the coming months and years. Therefore apple would probably not say it if it weren't true. That's not because I believe apple is a company that is respectful of anyone's privacy, but because I believe they are interested in future profit above all else. Anyone discovering that the fingerprint data stored on iphone 5s is being transmitted and collected would greatly impact apple's bottom line. That means they won't risk that. It is apple's greed and capitalistic nature that is my greatest assurance of this.

I wouldn't put something like that past the current government though. If ever there is a U.S. government produced smartphone with fingerprint recognition I'm avoiding it like the plague.

 

[SparkyJJO]

I don't know about you, but I certainly have nothing to hide.

Neither do I, but my personal info is just that, personal. Absolutely none of their business.

People with your viewpoint are part of the problem in this country. Horrific invasion of privacy by our own government and so many don't care. What is wrong with you people?

 

[Aikouka]

I wouldn't make bets on the duration of the sensor.
It's good that it works well, the one on my laptop misses if I don't swipe it in the exact same way I did when I registered the fingerprint, it's a different technology though, it's probably not refined much.

The setup on the phone takes about a minute per finger, which is way different from those laptop sensors. I have one on my Dell M1530, and it did work pretty well overall. The only complaint is that it was an extra feature, so it's not truly built into the OS. That's one advantage of having the maker of the phone + OS handle such a feature, it can be truly integrated. My only hope is that third-party applications can use it in the future (authentication only -- no data obviously). For example, I have KeePass on my phone, which can be a pain to type in my long password. If I could use my finger for that, it would be awesome.

 

[Engineer]

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