Are Apple/Android flame wars the new 3dfx/Nvidia?

[rudeguy]

You're right. What I'm calling google voice is really "google search through voice" or general android voice recognition capability. The real "google voice" is awesome and has no match from apple that I know of.

Ok... so I'm still waiting. Because Voice Search did exactly what it was supposed to. It searched by voice.

 

[Meghan54]

Ok... so I'm still waiting. Because Voice Search did exactly what it was supposed to. It searched by voice.

And you'll continue to wait because there's no leg for him to stand upon. Just bias and maybe blind allegiance to a company.

 

[Vdubchaos]

I have high level of respect for ANY company that manages to create such a huge following/sheep.

People on the other hand, people is what I don't get. I will never support any company that limits my freedom and not only forces me to buy more of their product but also to upgrade to a new produce as much as possible.

I understand the business purpose, but it's simply idiotic for me to support it as a consumer.

:biggrin:

 

[Broheim]

Ok... so I'm still waiting. Because Voice Search did exactly what it was supposed to. It searched by voice.

how about android itself? Am I the only one who remembers the early days of google poorly imitating apple?

 

[foghorn67]

You're right. What I'm calling google voice is really "google search through voice" or general android voice recognition capability. The real "google voice" is awesome and has no match from apple that I know of.

But that was implemented years before Siri.

 

[rudeguy]

how about android itself? Am I the only one who remembers the early days of google poorly imitating apple?

again...please use a specific example.

 

[Broheim]

again...please use a specific example.

the sad state of a hardware accelerated gui for one. For a long time android was a clunky mess that could be downright frustrating to use, while iOS was butter smooth.

 

[Mixolydian]

Mac for the elite. (or at least they think they are superior)

Correction: SOME Mac users think they're elite.

I use both Mac and Windows on a daily basis. I prefer to use the Mac for most things, while using Windows for special applications that are not available on Mac. Both are fine systems, IMO. But I like the way Mac works better.

 

[rudeguy]

the sad state of a hardware accelerated gui for one. For a long time android was a clunky mess that could be downright frustrating to use, while iOS was butter smooth.

Please state when iOS did this vs when Android did this.

Specific, not general. This is not difficult.


EDIT:
and the point being debated is that "Android throws stuff against the wall" and therefor has bad quality. Not having a feature is the exact opposite. If we are going to go down that road, we will have to consider why iOS lacked multi tasking for so long.

 

[Broheim]

Please state when iOS did this vs when Android did this.

Specific, not general. This is not difficult.

android always had hardware acceleration for but it didn't reach iOS levels until 4.0, is that good enough for you?

 

[Broheim]

sigh, did I just get sucked into a retarded fanboy argument... I guess I did

 

[Kaido]

I've given up being a fanboy.

I was such a huge nerd for AMD. My first rig was a 1.4ghz Athlon Thunderbird. Budget overclocking yeaaaaah! And now I won't touch AMD with a 10-foot pole (because Hackintosh). So meh. Personally I like iOS over Droid for ease-of-use, but that's only because I'm used to iOS. Once you learn or have anything it's usually pretty easy to get used to & you quit thinking about it.

 

[rudeguy]

sigh, did I just get sucked into a retarded fanboy argument... I guess I did

If they are going to keep this in OT, I'm going to run with it.

Truth is I made damn good money for a while off people using iOS. I have nothing against the operating system or the hardware. Its not bad at all. I just hate the fan boys and like to smash them at every chance I get.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Correction: SOME Mac users think they're elite.

I use both Mac and Windows on a daily basis. I prefer to use the Mac for most things, while using Windows for special applications that are not available on Mac. Both are fine systems, IMO. But I like the way Mac works better.

And you don't mind the fact that Apple forced you to buy hardware that you already have on your PC?

Your Mac IS a PC, they just put a pretty case around it and disabled you from installing anything but Apple OS on it.

Def worth a premium ehh?

 

[Mixolydian]

And you don't mind the fact that Apple forced you to buy hardware that you already have on your PC?

Your Mac IS a PC, they just put a pretty case around it and disabled you from installing anything but Apple OS on it.

Def worth a premium ehh?

Apple didn't force me to buy anything. I chose to buy an Apple product.

And yes it is worth a premium. Apple controls the integration between hardware and software, and the result is worth it.

 

[Vdubchaos]

They did force you as you already had identical hardware....hehe

You know what I say, more power to Apple.

 

[lxskllr]

I'm not a fanboy of anything. For tech I'm anti Apple, and anti Sony. Maybe anti Western Digital, but I may give them another chance some day.

 

[Anubis]

And those two pale in comparison with way older crap like Ford vs. Chevy, etc. Nothing new at all, just different corps. people are willing to sell their souls to in defense of said corp, which couldn't give a rat's ass about you while you toe their company line.

this is true, sports rivals may actually be the biggest, or at least one of the most vocal. Honestly is something i have a hard time understanding, how the hell can people have such a rabid love for one thing and a equal hatred for the other when they are pretty much the same fing thing

 

[Mixolydian]

They did force you as you already had identical hardware....hehe

That doesn't make an ounce of sense. If I bought a new computer, how did I already have the hardware?

 

[Vdubchaos]

That doesn't make an ounce of sense. If I bought a new computer, how did I already have the hardware?

You said you already had one/have a Windows PC.

 

[lxskllr]

And yes it is worth a premium. Apple controls the integration between hardware and software, and the result is worth it.

A jail with nice rugs, good food, and fun games is still jail.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Ok... so I'm still waiting. Because Voice Search did exactly what it was supposed to. It searched by voice.

It's implementation was poor. It had trouble with accents and general accuracy. Siri launched with no such problems. I had an android phone in the early days of android voice recognition. It was crap. Around that same time few aspects of android seemed to work as smoothly and flawlessly as equivalent functions in iOS. I know because I had an ipad at the same time. You can stop waiting because I'm telling you exactly what you want to know. If Siri isn't enough for you, you can almost pick any feature that android and iOS are both capable of. When apple released their version it was more polished than when android released theirs. I'm not saying android is bad here. Their approach is just different. They throw out early versions of things that may not be quite ready for prime time and keep what works well.

Android device manufacturers have followed much the same philosophy; loading devices with every possible feature they could cram into them, making them in every size feasible, using a wide range of different internal components. All that is throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what would stick. Guess what though? At this time the better device makers pretty much have figured out what would stick, and improved it to the point of usability. That's why android always has the latest new thing months or years before apple does. Apple takes a much more measured approach, and it shows in the quality of the features they ultimately include.

 

[Mixolydian]

You said you already had one/have a Windows PC.

I didn't say that. I said I use both Mac and Windows.

I run Windows in a VM on my Mac, so it's pretty much like having 2 computers in one.

 

[rudeguy]

It's implementation was poor. It had trouble with accents and general accuracy. Siri launched with no such problems. I had an android phone in the early days of android voice recognition. It was crap. Around that same time few aspects of android seemed to work as smoothly and flawlessly as equivalent functions in iOS. I know because I had an ipad at the same time. You can stop waiting because I'm telling you exactly what you want to know. If Siri isn't enough for you, you can almost pick any feature that android and iOS are both capable of. When apple released their version it was more polished than when android released theirs. I'm not saying android is bad here. Their approach is just different. They throw out early versions of things that may not be quite ready for prime time and keep what works well.

Android device manufacturers have followed much the same philosophy; loading devices with every possible feature they could cram into them, making them in every size feasible, using a wide range of different internal components. All that is throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what would stick. Guess what though? At this time the better device makers pretty much have figured out what would stick, and improved it to the point of usability. That's why android always has the latest new thing months or years before apple does. Apple takes a much more measured approach, and it shows in the quality of the features they ultimately include.

sigh...here is what you said:

Everything. Everything android does started out as a relatively poorly implemented idea and then some of it eventually evolved into something that worked well over time.

So because Voice Search didn't work well for someone with an accent, everything Google does starts out poorly? I seem to remember many issues with Siri and accents.

http://www.firstpost.com/tech/iphon...an-siri-understand-indian-accents-142494.html

I am still waiting for specifics on how Android "throws mud against the wall and sees what sticks".

 

[cheezy321]

sigh...here is what you said:


So because Voice Search didn't work well for someone with an accent, everything Google does starts out poorly? I seem to remember many issues with Siri and accents.

http://www.firstpost.com/tech/iphon...an-siri-understand-indian-accents-142494.html

I am still waiting for specifics on how Android "throws mud against the wall and sees what sticks".

Group text messages are still something android has not gotten right. Copy and paste comes to mind as well. They beat apple to the punch with that but damn was it terrible.