Question Apple Vision Pro announced - $3499!

[manly]

How long do you think apple will support this? Unless it's like the movie "ready player one" I say 6 months.

Apple is not Google Alphabet. Yes, Apple will sometimes release duds but they don't cancel shit on a whim just because.

Obviously this is a large bet by Apple, and it gets cancelled if it ultimately fails in the marketplace. $3500 is absurd but they're probably targeting around $1000 $1299 for version 2.0. I have no idea what the BoM looks, like but it seems highly unlikely they'll try to compete against Meta Quest 3.

 

[Red Storm]

How long do you think apple will support this? Unless it's like the movie "ready player one" I say 6 months.

Really, 6 months? If I were pessimistic about it, I would say 2-4 years at least. But I think the Vision Pro is the initial look at the future of personal computing. People heavily doubted the iPad, for some reason not understanding that a larger display meant using it for things such as media consumption would be more enjoyable. The next step from that is moving on from a single physical display and into the AR/VR space. And unlike most other headsets which are niche focused on VR gaming, Apple is pushing this as a general computer which is the right move. When the likes of Disney and J.Crew are supporting you, it looks much more promising than other "really just for gaming" headsets.

 

[WelshBloke]

Yeah, there's a lot of pixels to drive!

One thing did occur to me. At first I thought that this would be amazing to use for video conferencing then I realised that there's no way to get a proper picture of your face with the mask covering half of it. I guess that they can use avatars but they always look a bit crappy.

So I've seen a few reviews and I'm all in that video conferencing on this is not going to be the use case it could be. The avatars look terrible and if I think about it they are always going to look crappier than a good webcam.

 

[Heartbreaker]

So I've seen a few reviews and I'm all in that video conferencing on this is not going to be the use case it could be. The avatars look terrible and if I think about it they are always going to look crappier than a good webcam.

Yeah, the "personas" are getting universally panned. It's a bit uncanny valley and a bit old CGI from 15 years ago.

Apple says they are still in Beta.

 

[manly]

Reviews embargo has been lifted:

Apple Vision Pro Review Roundup - Slashdot

Apple has lifted the embargo on the first wave of non-curated reviews of its Vision Pro headset, and the results are somewhat surprising. The initial "high" experienced upon first impressions, where reviewers laud the headset's "incredibly impressive displays" and "near perfect" tracking...

apple.slashdot.org

 

[Glo.]

There has never been less hype about Apple product than there is about Vision Pro.

Even Apple Watch caught more attention than Vision Pro.

 

[Heartbreaker]

There has never been less hype about Apple product than there is about Vision Pro.

Even Apple Watch caught more attention than Vision Pro.

Not sure what you are looking at, but this looks like one of the most overhyped products ever. Ever media story, and social media "influencer" is wetting themselves over the amazing, "best ever" experiences.

Now that they are shipping, I'm seeing a lot of users returning them when the hype crashes into the reality of how uncomfortable it is, and no actual use case for it.

 

[igor_kavinski]

If the production run is limited, people will just try to sell it at a higher price to other Apple loyalists who weren't quick enough to pull the trigger.

 

[manly]

NYT's Brian Chen hated it:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1755173585340039181

If the production run is limited, people will just try to sell it at a higher price to other Apple loyalists who weren't quick enough to pull the trigger.

Limited production hasn't been a problem for Apple in a very long time.

Although it might make sense to buy one and never open it up. It could be worth $100,000 in 20 years?

 

[Heartbreaker]

I'm not an Apple hater, not even close. I've been a fan of their engineering and design decades. I think they make great products.

But this is the first product I wish they never made, and now that they did it, I hope it flops.

The world really doesn't need an even more alienating and isolating, face computer.

Bad enough that so many people are figuratively glued to their phones, holding them 10" from the face for long periods of time. Now we are going to literally have a computer stuck on their face.

This thing just seems so dystopian. It's full Black Mirror.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Speaking of Hype:

The Apple Vision Pro will make a trillion dollars

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/apple-vision-pro-review-18654070.php

 

[lakedude]

I would hate to have to wear those all day long at work.
Can it game?
My quest 2 is not as sleek or powerful but it does most of what this new thing does.

I am going to draw a set of eyes on the front my quest2.

That looks suspiciously like a Quest 1...

 

[lakedude]

Which has shown on the Rift S to be a horrible concept, hence why they kept improving it on the quest, but eventually still did not live up to having dedicated motion tracking devices mounted in corners like the index and HTC.

Well that is the one brilliant thing about Zuck's $1000 headset, self tracking controllers.

I think the best combination might be a Quest 3 with the pro controllers.

We have had 6 VRs if you count the GO and the GearVR.

The Index is the best but i hate the wire and prefer the Q2's because wireless.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Returns are happening! https://www.techspot.com/news/101899-why-apple-vision-pro-early-adopters-returning-their.html

 

[manly]

Returns are happening! https://www.techspot.com/news/101899-why-apple-vision-pro-early-adopters-returning-their.html

Big mistake. The right play is:

1. Buy AVP, do NOT open it
2. ...
3. 15 years later: Profit

 

[igor_kavinski]

That's assuming Apple isn't using cheap degradable plastics in it.

Buyer wins the $1 million bid for stone age VR headset to add to his collection of vintage technology.

Opens the package after purchase and finds the headset plastic has yellow discoloration.

Looks ugly as hell.

Curses Apple for saving bucks and cries himself to sleep that night.

Apple's Vision Pro is a plastic turkey

Plastic scratches easily and passwords require Apple store visit The Apple Vision Pro is a bulky bit of mixed-reality kit, and that's because most of us thought it was made of posh materials like glass and aluminium. But a scratch test shows that Apple has skimped on quality in the most shocking...

www.fudzilla.com

 

[manly]

That's assuming Apple isn't using cheap degradable plastics in it.

Buyer wins the $1 million bid for stone age VR headset to add to his collection of vintage technology.

Opens the package after purchase and finds the headset plastic has yellow discoloration.

Looks ugly as hell.

Curses Apple for saving bucks and cries himself to sleep that night.

Apple's Vision Pro is a plastic turkey

Plastic scratches easily and passwords require Apple store visit The Apple Vision Pro is a bulky bit of mixed-reality kit, and that's because most of us thought it was made of posh materials like glass and aluminium. But a scratch test shows that Apple has skimped on quality in the most shocking...

www.fudzilla.com

All the more reason to not open up the box.

Vision Pro Owners Are Reporting a Mysterious Crack in the Front Glass - Slashdot

An anonymous reader shares a report: Vision Pro owners are posting near-identical reports of a crack appearing on the front glass of their headsets. None of them seem to know how it happened, either. The issue was first spotted by MacRumors, and so far, there have been five separate Redditors...

apple.slashdot.org

 

[AlexanderSalazar]

They announced that it's a working device in the first place. I don't see any point in buying it just to watch videos nad movies. Beside that it has a lot of issues that they met with only after launch, but still it's a very hyped device, I am done watching people walking outside with the glasses on their head.

 

[lakedude]

Apple makes some nice stuff. They pay top dollar for the best panels and then they calibrate them so their displays look great (on average).

Their current electronics (not when they were using the same Intel chips as everyone else) are powerful and just sip battery power. Our iPad lasts for weeks on a charge.

The cons are high price and restricted eco system, although many view the latter as a plus for security reasons.

$3500 is out of the question for me. The Oculus Pro is under $900 but i think the Q3 looks like my next headset at around $500.

 

[Heartbreaker]

They announced that it's a working device in the first place. I don't see any point in buying it just to watch videos nad movies. Beside that it has a lot of issues that they met with only after launch, but still it's a very hyped device, I am done watching people walking outside with the glasses on their head.

Apple attempted to market the productivity side, but that doesn't actually make it better at productivity than what we already have. A lot of people fell for the marketing and didn't buy them just to watch videos, but for many people that ends up being what they are use for, because it's really the only thing that they do great at.

Remember the guy who bought the first Vision Pro in NYC? Here’s what he thinks after weeks of using it

Dr. Aarish Syed Ishaqi became the poster boy for Apple’s Vision Pro when he bought the first one. Fortune tracked him down to find out what he thinks of the $3,500 headset now.

fortune.com

“So far, I haven’t used it much,” Ishaqi told me. The Vision Pro is mostly strapped on and switched on for watching videos, which, he says, ends up being about one hour a day on average.

Or Joanna Stern after a Month, she thought she would do work in it, but it's primarily for Video, if it's not collecting dust in a drawer:

One Month With Apple Vision Pro: In the Air, on a Train and…in a Drawer (text)

 

[igor_kavinski]

Most VR headsets are like that. You end up watching movies on them coz that's the easiest thing to do when you are at your laziest at the end of the day.

 

[aigomorla]

Most VR headsets are like that. You end up watching movies on them coz that's the easiest thing to do when you are at your laziest at the end of the day.

Then you realize you have eye strain, and people start saying your crossed eyed.

Then you know you have problems.

 

[manly]

Apple expected to sell produce about 400k AVPs in 2024, report says:

Apple Cuts Vision Pro Shipments As Demand Falls 'Sharply Beyond Expectations' - Slashdot

An anonymous reader shares a report: Apple has dropped the number of Vision Pro units that it plans to ship in 2024, going from an expected 700 to 800k units to just 400k to 450k units, according to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. Orders have been scaled back before the Vision Pro has launched in...

apple.slashdot.org

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Apple expected to sell produce about 400k AVPs in 2024, report says:

Apple Cuts Vision Pro Shipments As Demand Falls 'Sharply Beyond Expectations' - Slashdot

An anonymous reader shares a report: Apple has dropped the number of Vision Pro units that it plans to ship in 2024, going from an expected 700 to 800k units to just 400k to 450k units, according to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. Orders have been scaled back before the Vision Pro has launched in...

apple.slashdot.org