Apple is now bigger than Microsoft

[Tristicus]

*I'M NOT AN APPLE APPOLOGIST/DEFENDENT*

But...if you want to look at specific things...how does the Zune compare to the Ipod? What about pocket pc phones vs. iphones?

Zune >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod
Only thing touch has going for it is the app store.

 

[dwell]

And just a few years back, the iPhone was a twinkle in Steve's eye.

And if my dreams come true, Android will dominate the mobile OS scene.

The tech market is fickle and fast changing.

T;FTFY

In case you're not paying attention, Nokia, RIM, and Symbian rule the mobile OS scene *today* and Apple is making money hand over fist. Google can give out all the free operating systems they want, write me when Apple starts feeling the pain. After all, they just had their best quarter despite Android's growth.

 

[ShawnD1]

And just a few years back, the iPhone was a twinkle in Steve's eye.

And a few years out, Android will dominate the mobile OS scene.

The tech market is fickle and fast changing.

Tech is one of those things where you don't invest unless you are 100% prepared to lose every dollar you invest. You could hit it big like a lottery (Apple) or you could lose everything (Nortel). Palm was supposed to be the next big thing but look how that turned out. Research In Motion was competing against Palm with the Blackberry and that actually did make money; RIM is still doing well.

 

[JD50]

Apple is not bigger than Microsoft, apple fanboys are funny.

 

[jpeyton]

In case you're not paying attention, Nokia, RIM, and Symbian rule the mobile OS scene *today* and Apple is making money hand over fist.

I don't own Apple stock so I don't care what kind of profit Apple is making. Nor do I own Google, HTC, Motorola, Samsung, etc. stock. As a consumer, I'm more interested in the value the items offer to me, not the profit margin they offer to their parent company.

Google can give out all the free operating systems they want, write me when Apple starts feeling the pain. After all, they just had their best quarter despite Android's growth.

That simply speaks to the untapped growth potential of the smartphone market. With hundreds of millions of handsets left to sell over the next few years, the landscape as it stands right now can change dramatically. I think Android is best equipped to dominate the market, with more handsets, more carriers, etc.

 

[LtPage1]

Apple is not "bigger" than MS, considering the market share MS has over the OS market.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

MS: 87.8% to Apple's 7.1%

You also have to ask yourself, if Apple is so much better than MS, why does Apple allow Windows installed on its products?

That's an idiotic question.

 

[Eug]

As of 20 mins ago, AAPL was ~$5 billion bigger than MSFT.

 

[dwell]

That simply speaks to the untapped growth potential of the smartphone market. With hundreds of millions of handsets left to sell over the next few years, the landscape as it stands right now can change dramatically. I think Android is best equipped to dominate the market, with more handsets, more carriers, etc.

That's good for Android, I suppose, but I fail to see how it would hurt Apple seeing how Apple is doing fantastic with only 15% of the market. Not to mention you're making a lot of assumptions.

 

[vi edit]

That simply speaks to the untapped growth potential of the smartphone market. With hundreds of millions of handsets left to sell over the next few years, the landscape as it stands right now can change dramatically. I think Android is best equipped to dominate the market, with more handsets, more carriers, etc.

Not everyone wants a $100 a month cell phone bill with a data plan. I don't know how much market there is on that.

 

[Eug]

Of course a successful Android can hurt Apple. The question is how much, for both of them. In the meantime Windows 7 Mobile isn't doing too well, but then again they have room for growth in the mobile space.

 

[Deeko]

As of 20 mins ago, AAPL was ~$5 billion bigger than MSFT.

Can't you keep your trolling the All Things Apple forum?

Given your sig, your admitted previous ownership of Apple stock, and your continuing "lolzapple" posts in this thread, its quite clear that you're just trying to start a flame war.

 

[SuperSix]

Total up all PC hardware sales, and the OS - then get back to me on who's larger.

Complete solution provider vs a software vendor.

FAIL

 

[JD50]

As of 20 mins ago, AAPL was ~$5 billion bigger than MSFT.

And 20 minutes later, it's still irrelevant.

 

[Deeko]

Of course a successful Android can hurt Apple. The question is how much, for both of them. In the meantime Windows 7 isn't doing too well, but then again they have room for growth in the mobile space.

See, its one thing if you troll with factually accurate information - but this is just flat out false. Windows 7 is the fastest selling operating system in Microsoft history. Its been well received by virtually everyone. What are you talking about?

If you're talking about Windows Phone 7.....uhhhhm of course it isn't selling well, it isn't out yet.

 

[jpeyton]

Not everyone wants a $100 a month cell phone bill with a data plan. I don't know how much market there is on that.

Thanks for your US-centric viewpoint. You'll be happy to know that smartphone plans abroad don't cost nearly that much. In fact, many don't even require 2-year contracts.

The beauty of Android is that you'll find it on $500 smartphones in the US and $100 smartphones in emerging markets. On the other hand, not everyone can afford an iPhone.

 

[her209]

Revenue for 12 months ending 2010-03-31
AAPL
51.1 billion

MSFT
59.5 billion

 

[Eug]

See, its one thing if you troll with factually accurate information - but this is just flat out false. Windows 7 is the fastest selling operating system in Microsoft history. Its been well received by virtually everyone. What are you talking about?

If you're talking about Windows Phone 7.....uhhhhm of course it isn't selling well, it isn't out yet.

Yeah, I was talking about the mobile version (and edited my post before you posted yours). It's not got very much planned support. However, like I said, that gives it room for growth.

Truthfully though, I expect the real fight to be RIM vs. Apple vs. Android for smartphones. If Windows 7 gets a significant share of that, I'll be impressed.

RIM is at significant risk of losing a lot of market share though.

 

[jpeyton]

Not to mention you're making a lot of assumptions.

Says the guy predicting the death of the Flash, which is more ubiquitous now than ever before.

 

[Eug]

Personally I think the decline of Flash is inevitable. I don't like the way Apple is forcing the issue, but it Jobs pigheadedness about Flash does seem to be knocking it down a peg or two.

 

[Deeko]

Yeah, I was talking about the mobile version (and edited my post before you posted yours). It's not got very much planned support. However, like I said, that gives it room for growth.

Not much planned support? Again - what are you talking about? HTC, LG, Dell, all confirmed to be working on WP7 devices. The early press after it was announced wasn't exactly damning, either.

You can say people don't like various things about the OS, and that'd be true....but to make a more reaching statement like "its not doing well" or "there isn't much planned support", you're talking out your ass and trolling for a flame war.

I'm done feeding your trollness until you respond with something worthwhile. Toodles.

 

[ultimatebob]

In other words, Apple is even more overvalued now than it was yesterday. Thanks for the update.

 

[ShawnD1]

Thanks for your US-centric viewpoint. You'll be happy to know that smartphone plans abroad don't cost nearly that much. In fact, many don't even require 2-year contracts..

As for the Canadian perspective on this, it costs $20 per month for unlimited text/picture messages, voice mail, caller ID, satellite radio, and unlimited data. It's sold as a bundle so these can't really be separated. This is on top of the base minutes plan, so my total phone bill is $47 per month.

I don't have an iphone or android but I use Opera Mini on my phone almost every day (bathroom reading ). Youtube works great as well. It's all included in the data plan.

I still don't see much hope for smart phones. Last time I was at the Bell store, they wanted $600 for an iphone. Android phones start at about $400. My phone is an LG Xenon and cost $300 without a contract (I renewed for 2 years so it cost $80). My parents are typical people who just want a phone, and their phones were only $60 as part of a pay-as-you-go scheme.

 

[dwell]

Says the guy predicting the death of the Flash, which is more ubiquitous now than ever before.

Are you kidding me? The writing is on the wall for Flash. It's not even an argument. All we need is an open video standard. If WebM takes off 90% of Flash's usefulness goes right out the window.

 

[Wreckem]

And just a few years back, the iPhone was a twinkle in Steve's eye.

And a few years out, Android will dominate the mobile OS scene.

The tech market is fickle and fast changing.

iPhone isnt going anywhere, nor is Rim.

Android will supplant Symbian and WinMobile but its not going to dominate. I forsee RIM, Apple, and Android having about equal marketshare over the long haul. People will want what they want. The majority of people aren't going to drop the iPhone for android, and vise versa. Just like the market that RIM has cornered isn't going to drop RIM for iPhone or Android.

WinMo7 is going to be DOA. Most analysts expect Android to kill off Windows Mobile. Theres only so much need for a licensed mobile OS and Android's got WinMo7 beat at everything and it doesn't have licensing fees.

 

[nageov3t]

*I'M NOT AN APPLE APPOLOGIST/DEFENDENT*

But...if you want to look at specific things...how does the Zune compare to the Ipod? What about pocket pc phones vs. iphones?

I would trade my ipod touch for a zune hd