Anyone use Debian or OpenSuse LEAP?

[lxskllr]

Next step for me is finding out how to upgrade from debian 13 to 14 over the next 2 years so when the time comes I can do it without a clean install and not formatting /home drive.

Must be a guide somewhere.

Best to read the release notes. There's a specific page for every release. Here's the ones for upgrading to trixie...

Release Notes for Debian 13 (trixie) — release-notes documentation

They're very thorough, and use a lot more care than I do. I make sure all important data is backed up, fully update the existing install, update the sources list, then upgrade.

For example. I'm running bookworm...

apt update && apt upgrade

Now bookworm is fully updated, so I change my sources list to either trixie or stable. Using the release name locks you into that. You won't ever get anything else. Using the generic term "stable" tracks the stable branch, and you can get new packages beyond trixie after it's been released, but not before.

apt full-upgrade

 

[Indus]

Best to read the release notes. There's a specific page for every release. Here's the ones for upgrading to trixie...

Release Notes for Debian 13 (trixie) — release-notes documentation

They're very thorough, and use a lot more care than I do. I make sure all important data is backed up, fully update the existing install, update the sources list, then upgrade.

For example. I'm running bookworm...

apt update && apt upgrade

Now bookworm is fully updated, so I change my sources list to either trixie or stable. Using the release name locks you into that. You won't ever get anything else. Using the generic term "stable" tracks the stable branch, and you can get new packages beyond trixie after it's been released, but not before.

apt full-upgrade

Thank you.. I did read through that.

This is the part I'd be nervous about.. since I've never done it before..



It's also why I tried LMDE 7 first because it's quite simple to upgrade the distros.. just do some mouse clicks.

I'll just have to get comfy with it.. but I can tell you now.. I'm loving Debian with KDE.. it just works!

 

[lxskllr]

It's easy. Just open up the list as administrator and change every instance of "bookworm" to "trixie". It can be done with find/replace. I'd probably recommend using the release name instead of the branch, eg "stable". That way there's no surprises. You get upgraded when you're sure you want to upgrade. Just have to change the source list every couple years.

 

[Indus]

BTW I should mention a little problem I had with Fedora/ Ultramarine/ Bazzite.. I didn't want to pile on and was just happy to get rid of Windows.

I sometimes download and save youtube videos that I find useful.. (for example how to do a brake job on this car model etc.. stuff you need to repeat every once in a while but not everyday and you don't want to mess it up).

Despite me telling the browsers where I wanted to download it.. it kept downloading somewhere else. This is despite me changing settings in adminstrator/ root mode and practically doing every suggestion I could find. Eventually I just stuck the default download folder to my remembered settings and I'd move the file over to my saved data folder on another drive.

But in debian.. just tell it where I want it downloaded once.. and it works like it's supposed to!

Debian is not the latest and greatest but it just works!

 

[Indus]

@WelshBloke have you gotten any version of Adobe Photoshop to work on zorin?

I know there are some youtube guides out there but I wanted confirmation if it still works.. since that's my 1 hangup still..

 

[WelshBloke]

@WelshBloke have you gotten any version of Adobe Photoshop to work on zorin?

I know there are some youtube guides out there but I wanted confirmation if it still works.. since that's my 1 hangup still..

I've actually never used Photoshop on Windows or Linux!
I could see it working in WinBoat but Photoshop uses the GPU so you'd lose that and I don't know how important that is to Photoshop. Wine (or a similar compatibility layer) might work and I'd imagine that quite a few people would have tried that.
Adobe is pretty much a Windows only thing and some of it won't run well in a VM if it needs access to the GPU.
If you really, really need Photoshop you'd be best off having a bare metal installation of Windows to boot into I'd imagine.

That said (and I'm making some big assumptions here) most people absolutely don't need a pro image editor if they are just touching up family photos or making memes! There's plenty of Linux apps that would work for home users or cloud services (like Google photos if you're happy to let a corp have access to your photos).

 

[lxskllr]

You can do professional work with linux tools, they just aren't the industry "standard". I wouldn't try to escape windows, only to deal with adobe's fuckery. Might as well stay on windows.

 

[Indus]

You can do professional work with linux tools, they just aren't the industry "standard". I wouldn't try to escape windows, only to deal with adobe's fuckery. Might as well stay on windows.

Yeah I'll have to learn how to do it.. guess I'll youtube how to do this in GIMP.

 

[Indus]

Hello everyone..

Back again here on Debian.

Just testing hello 1 2 3 can you read me okay??

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Oh @lxskllr I did download LMDE and install it and when I installed KDE standard it was only KDE 5.2 which is ancient..

Then I went nah.. I'll just go with vanilla debian since it's more ahead and not a knock off.

Yep ok.. 30 +1 days in debian and still getting 144 fps..



Problem was definitely fedora and other distros.. not linux.

Debian is working out great!

I like the KDE version but you may like gnome or others..

 

[Zepp]

P.S. Can someone simplify "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y && sudo apt clean" ?

haha just saw this in your sig and yeah I agree. One thing I do really miss about Ultramarine is sudo dnf up -y

I know you can make a bash script and turn it into a clickable file you can put somewhere convenient but I haven't had the gumption yet to try and make one myself.

 

[Indus]

haha just saw this in your sig and yeah I agree. One thing I do really miss about Ultramarine is sudo dnf up -y

I know you can make a bash script and turn it into a clickable file you can put somewhere convenient but I haven't had the gumption yet to try and make one myself.

At least if it's in my sig, I can copy and paste it!

Beats typing it everytime.. even with my 84 wpm average.

 

[lxskllr]

I never setup sudo. I login as root, and the appropriate commands are usually in history since I don't spend much time as root. Arrow up recalls the last command. Keep arrowing up to scroll through them.

I don't necessarily recommend logging in as root. That was standard when I started with debian, and I haven't seen any reason to change.

 

[marees]

How about giving Regata a try?

Get to know the Regata OS operating system

With Regata OS, you'll have a new kind of computer for everything you need and love to do.

get.regataos.com.br

seems like a good alternative to Gecko

i asked grok to choose between leap 16 & regata (as the 5th in a multi-boot setup after LMDE, Zorin, pop! & bazzite in that order)

it chose leap 16 but says that it is a marginal decision

https://x.com/i/grok/share/b0gQYJNt6pPWyGKSHHF6XkzOM