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"Regata OS is a hybrid distribution that is based on both openSUSE Leap and Tumbleweed. It uses the stability of openSUSE Leap as its base but incorporates newer packages from Tumbleweed, such as the Linux kernel and Mesa drivers, to ensure better support for modern hardware and a more up-to-date desktop experience. "
 
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Indus

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Zepp said:
Interesting

"Regata OS is a hybrid distribution that is based on both openSUSE Leap and Tumbleweed. It uses the stability of openSUSE Leap as its base but incorporates newer packages from Tumbleweed, such as the Linux kernel and Mesa drivers, to ensure better support for modern hardware and a more up-to-date desktop experience. "
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That's what I'm trying to avoid..

I'm thinking stay with debian.. if the kernel and MESA drivers work once.. they work till the next update in 2 years.

BTW I've also read that the issue might be some drivers with 16GB 9060xt but it's not easy to roll them back in fedora.

Works just fine in windows 10 with adrenaline drivers.. I tested that.

And it's most noticeable in overwatch 2
 
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Ok just read linux mint DE 7's release notes. It will be possible to upgrade to the stable release from beta eventually.. (I was waiting on that stable release being out).

Also I'm wondering if this time I should do manual partitioning and make a separate /home partition.. that would save me tons of time later on.

Thoughts from debian/ ubuntu users.. what do you think?

And ext4 or btrfs??

Edit: My original thoughts were wait for Fedora 43 and LMDE7 to both come out. Maybe fedora 43 has a fix and I can just keep that version of fedora till Fedora 44..
 
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BTW @igor_kavinski @Zepp @lxskllr @WelshBloke

Do you all use a separate home partition?? So you don't have to reinstall stuff all over again besides the o/s??

And is it sometimes on another drive??

What do you prefer?? I got myself a 2TB NVME just for linux.. so I think I have plenty of space for that drive to hold a home partition.

Oh and for home.. btrfs???
 
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Indus said:
BTW @igor_kavinski @Zepp @lxskllr @WelshBloke

Do you all use a separate home partition??

And is it sometimes on another drive??

What do you prefer?? I got myself a 2TB NVME just for linux.. so I think I have plenty of space for that drive to hold a home partition.
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I did that years ago, but the utility of it is dubious, especially with fast computers and drives. I think the modern argument for is you can do a reinstall while maintaining your documents and settings. You can do that. or just back your shit up like you should be doing anyway, and copy what you need to a new install. The more extensively you partition, the more space gets wasted. I have no idea what I'll really need two years from now. With everything in a single partition, it can work itself out instead of running up against barriers I created.
 
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Indus said:
BTW @igor_kavinski @Zepp @lxskllr @WelshBloke

Do you all use a separate home partition?? So you don't have to reinstall stuff all over again besides the o/s??

And is it sometimes on another drive??

What do you prefer?? I got myself a 2TB NVME just for linux.. so I think I have plenty of space for that drive to hold a home partition.

Oh and for home.. btrfs???
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So my partition scheme is pretty much defined by my hardware.
3 pools of storage; A 1tb nvme with my OS and home partition, a 2tb nvme with my VM folder plus a media folder, a 4tb raid0 pool made up of 4 1tb SSDs that just has my Steam directory on it.

I'm not too bothered about reinstalling and keeping my home folder, I'd rather just back up anything I want to keep and nuking everything else on that disk.
My internet is pretty slow so I tend to hoard Steam games as it's a PITA to have to redownload massive games just to try things out.
 
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Oh. Still using EXT4. I don't really need the extra things Btrfs brings and I think that EXT4 might be a tad snappier on the desktop?
I'm definitely tending to well tested and stable, if stuff breaks I want to know that it was me that broke it rather than it being an obscure bug!
 
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@Zepp Welp it seems the problem isn't just me..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/1k0g4x7/fedora_42_very_noticeable_performance_loss_for_no

And it's Fedora in particular.. notice he said he uses other distros that're ubuntu or debian based and they work fine but bazzite/ fedora and same problem happens.

@lxskllr have you ever tried LMDE (linux mint version of debian)? Did you like it.. did it seem superior to you or you're just using the vanilla debian and gnome??

I'm thinking I'll just bear with it till LMDE 7 comes out and make it work or go with vanilla debian and KDE.
 
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Indus said:
@Zepp Welp it seems the problem isn't just me..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/1k0g4x7/fedora_42_very_noticeable_performance_loss_for_no

And it's Fedora in particular.. notice he said he uses other distros that're ubuntu or debian based and they work fine but bazzite/ fedora and same problem happens.

@lxskllr have you ever tried LMDE (linux mint version of debian)? Did you like it.. did it seem superior to you or you're just using the vanilla debian and gnome??

I'm thinking I'll just bear with it till LMDE 7 comes out and make it work or go with vanilla debian and KDE.
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I use vanilla debian. XFCE at home, and plasma at work. I don't like gnome 3+ at all. Loved gnome 2. I like debian cause their philosophy closely aligns with mine. It's also a very minimal presentation. There isn't much opinion on how to set it up. "Here's the base, here's your choice of packages. Have fun!" Derivatives otoh have a "vision". There's a way they think it should look and behave, and that's what they ship.

There isn't anything wrong with either approach. If you like a distro's "vision" , you're good to go. Install it and run. If you're changing lots of stuff, you might not have the exact distro you want, unless it ticks other important boxes for you. I'd expect vanilla debian to be virtually identical to LMDE aside from the default packages. If LMDE is working for you, I don't see any reason to switch.
 
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WelshBloke said:
So my partition scheme is pretty much defined by my hardware.
3 pools of storage; A 1tb nvme with my OS and home partition, a 2tb nvme with my VM folder plus a media folder, a 4tb raid0 pool made up of 4 1tb SSDs that just has my Steam directory on it.

I'm not too bothered about reinstalling and keeping my home folder, I'd rather just back up anything I want to keep and nuking everything else on that disk.
My internet is pretty slow so I tend to hoard Steam games as it's a PITA to have to redownload massive games just to try things out.
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RAID-0? Livin' on the edge? :p
 
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Hello everyone..

Back again here on Debian.

Just testing hello 1 2 3 can you read me okay??

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Oh @lxskllr I did download LMDE and install it and when I installed KDE standard it was only KDE 5.2 which is ancient..

Then I went nah.. I'll just go with vanilla debian since it's more ahead and not a knock off.
 
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Strange that plasma's so old. I thought they pulled from the debian repos aside from maybe cinnamon and other packages built in-house.
 
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lxskllr said:
Strange that plasma's so old. I thought they pulled from the debian repos aside from maybe cinnamon and other packages built in-house.
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I know mint works excellent on Cinnamon.

But I still prefer Plasma. That's my only reason for not using LMDE.. works wonderfully for the wife though.
 
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Well my fps drops are fixed in debian.. from where I was getting 55 fps, I'm getting 180+ even with LACT and undervolting.

And it's nice not seeing updates everyday from MESA or other repos..

It's quite simple actually:

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@lxskllr do you turn any more of those on for yourself or do you have any additional ones?
 
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This is what I have on my home machine...

Code: 
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stable-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stable-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

In addition, I have megasync and i2p in sources.list.d

At work, add virtualbox to the above sources.
 
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