Anyone know where I can find a clip of that Bertuzzi hit on Moore...?

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Police Investigate Bertuzzi for hit on Moore

I don't ever like seeing Police get involved into sports incidents like this. As stupid as it is, it's still part of the game, and just another reason why the game is in the decline that it is today.

so if some guy took his skate off and sliced some guy's throat with it, he shouldn't be charged with anything? How about if he takes his stick and repeatedly beats another guy in the head?

These types of actions are NOT part of the game. A cheap shot with an elbow or checking from behind are parts of the game. Blatent disregard for a persons well being by assaulting them from behind with enough force to eventually break their neck is NOT part of the game.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Police Investigate Bertuzzi for hit on Moore

I don't ever like seeing Police get involved into sports incidents like this. As stupid as it is, it's still part of the game, and just another reason why the game is in the decline that it is today.

so if some guy took his skate off and sliced some guy's throat with it, he shouldn't be charged with anything? How about if he takes his stick and repeatedly beats another guy in the head?

These types of actions are NOT part of the game. A cheap shot with an elbow or checking from behind are parts of the game. Blatent disregard for a persons well being by assaulting them from behind with enough force to eventually break their neck is NOT part of the game.

Exactly.

 

[TheNinja]

I still think they should go with the rule that however long the person that you hurt is out, that's how long you are out WITHOUT PAY. You take out someone's knees and he's gone for 10-12 weeks, so are you. If Moore is out for 3 years, tough $hit Bertuzzi you are gone for 3 years, have fun golfing.....or curling.

 

[NathanBWF]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Police Investigate Bertuzzi for hit on Moore

I don't ever like seeing Police get involved into sports incidents like this. As stupid as it is, it's still part of the game, and just another reason why the game is in the decline that it is today.

so if some guy took his skate off and sliced some guy's throat with it, he shouldn't be charged with anything? How about if he takes his stick and repeatedly beats another guy in the head?

These types of actions are NOT part of the game. A cheap shot with an elbow or checking from behind are parts of the game. Blatent disregard for a persons well being by assaulting them from behind with enough force to eventually break their neck is NOT part of the game.

Exactly.

So should every other player who takes a cheap shot at another player be charged as well...? Because I think that would be pretty much every play erin the league. Players say they are going to get a guy all the time, but now all of a sudden this one counts...? I'm not saying it's alright that he did it, but just because he accidentally hurt the guys neck doesn't mean he should be criminally charged. If someguy sticks a knee out, tears the ACL of some other player, ends his carreer, should that player be charged criminally as well...?

 

[Anubis]

i wanna see this someone give me a link

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: NathanBWF

So should every other player who takes a cheap shot at another player be charged as well...? Because I think that would be pretty much every play erin the league. Players say they are going to get a guy all the time, but now all of a sudden this one counts...? I'm not saying it's alright that he did it, but just because he accidentally hurt the guys neck doesn't mean he should be criminally charged. If someguy sticks a knee out, tears the ACL of some other player, ends his carreer, should that player be charged criminally as well...?

I can't believe you think he accidentally (no intention of hurting him severely) hurt the guys neck when he forced his head into the ice from behind. Or think that this is just like any other incident in a normal game. Do you watch hockey on a regular basis? (just wondering)

You baffle me. Congrats.

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: Anubis
i wanna see this someone give me a link

scroll up.

 

[LAUST]

Pay attention to thats going on in the NHL before you try and step into the ring with this bunch of guys.

 

[rh71]

mirrored from hockeyfights.com

 

[WobbleWobble]

Sigh, as a Canucks fan I'm very disappointed at Bertuzzi. Nikolishan (sp?) didn't help by dog piling on Bertuzzi who was on top of Moore. In Vancouver, many fans are disappointed as well. Just listen to our talk radio, you'll hear outraged fans. I was watching the game on TV and was sickened by what I saw. Kudos to the rest of the players by not futher escalading the violence and having a bench brawl or anything. There were altercations right after the punch, but I don't think the players on the ice knew how bad Moore was hurt.

I'm border line with the Vancouver Police investigating. It was an assault, but by just playing hockey you voluntarily accept that you will be roughed up. There is a fine line and Bertuzzi may have crossed it. I wouldn't be suprised if Bertuzzi missed this season and the playoffs, the whole next season may be another matter.

Perhaps it's not as bad as the Mcsorely because there was no weapon (the hockey stick) involved? That's my thinking.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: NathanBWF

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: NathanBWF

No I mean I know it's bad but to me the punch looked kind of like it grazed him. From what I heard, I thought he punched him square in the back of the head...

watch it again. It was basically square to the side of the head. Moore looked like he was out before he went down.

Yeah i just watched it again and do agree that he did hit him very hard. Caught him square in the side of the head. Wonder what kind of suspension this is gonna bring down...

Uhmm, what are you watching? He sucker punched him from behind and drove him face first into the ice.

The video game generation. Geez.

 

[Riprorin]

Probably the worst incident I ever witnessed was during a hockey game in the 70's.

The Rochester Americans, coached by Don Cherry, had a player named John Wensink. He was basically a goon with limited ability. He went onto to play for Cherry with the Bruins.

Anyway, unprovoked, he knocked Len Cunning unconscious with a cheap shot and then jumped on top of him and pummeled him in the face with about a dozen punches.

He broke many bones in the guys face and ended his career, as far as I can remember.

This dude was scary:

John Wensink

 

[LAUST]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Probably the worst incident I ever witnessed was during a hockey game in the 70's.

The Rochester Americans, coached by Don Cherry, had a player named John Wensink. He was basically a goon with limited ability. He went onto to play for Cherry with the Bruins.

Anyway, unprovoked, he knocked some Len Cunning unconscious with a cheap shot and then jumped on top of him and pummeled him in the face with about a dozen punches.

He broke many bones in the guys face and ended his career, as far as I can remember.

This dude was scary:

John Wensink

damn thats fugged up!

Detroit and St. Louis, 2 pretty fitting teams for a guy like that too

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Probably the worst incident I ever witnessed was during a hockey game in the 70's.

The Rochester Americans, coached by Don Cherry, had a player named John Wensink. He was basically a goon with limited ability. He went onto to play for Cherry with the Bruins.

Anyway, unprovoked, he knocked Len Cunning unconscious with a cheap shot and then jumped on top of him and pummeled him in the face with about a dozen punches.

He broke many bones in the guys face and ended his career, as far as I can remember.

This dude was scary:

John Wensink

wow! 242 PIM in 52 GP in his last year before being drafted! damn! :Q

 

[Riprorin]

Nice resume:

Suspended by AHL for a total of 15 games during 1973-74 season. First suspension was five games for excessive violence in a November 1973 fight against Nova Scotia's Len Cunning in Rochester. Second suspension was 10 games and resulted from his role in a bench-clearing brawl in Rochester's game at Providence on Dec. 23, 1973. The league said Wensink was the first player off the Rochester bench during a fight and also scratched Providence's Bert Wilson near his eyes. The suspension included a $50 fine. A total of $3,125 in fines were levied for the incident -- the highest fine total for an AHL game to that date. ...

He only got a 5 game suspension too. I was 13 years old at the time and the incident is still etched in my memory. Made me want to puke.

 

[TheNinja]

I just watch it, it is pretty sad. It looks like Moore basically slid down the ice a good 20-30 feet on his face, with Bertuzzi on top of him (and Nikolishin?). Bertuzzi should be done for the year including playoffs. If Moore doesn't recoved and play next year, Bertuzzi should be out next year as well.

 

[TwinkleToes77]

Originally posted by: Staley8
I still think they should go with the rule that however long the person that you hurt is out, that's how long you are out WITHOUT PAY. You take out someone's knees and he's gone for 10-12 weeks, so are you. If Moore is out for 3 years, tough $hit Bertuzzi you are gone for 3 years, have fun golfing.....or curling.

AND.. i think the pay that they would get should now go to the guy that they injured as well!

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: NathanBWF

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Police Investigate Bertuzzi for hit on Moore

I don't ever like seeing Police get involved into sports incidents like this. As stupid as it is, it's still part of the game, and just another reason why the game is in the decline that it is today.

so if some guy took his skate off and sliced some guy's throat with it, he shouldn't be charged with anything? How about if he takes his stick and repeatedly beats another guy in the head?

These types of actions are NOT part of the game. A cheap shot with an elbow or checking from behind are parts of the game. Blatent disregard for a persons well being by assaulting them from behind with enough force to eventually break their neck is NOT part of the game.

Exactly.

So should every other player who takes a cheap shot at another player be charged as well...? Because I think that would be pretty much every play erin the league. Players say they are going to get a guy all the time, but now all of a sudden this one counts...? I'm not saying it's alright that he did it, but just because he accidentally hurt the guys neck doesn't mean he should be criminally charged. If someguy sticks a knee out, tears the ACL of some other player, ends his carreer, should that player be charged criminally as well...?

You butt monkey. There is a difference (atleast in hockey) between a fair fight and a cheap shot that ends ones career. Breaking two vertebra in Morris' neck not only stepped over the line but is a criminal act. Bartuzzi will never play NHL again, No team would want him.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: NathanBWF

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Police Investigate Bertuzzi for hit on Moore

I don't ever like seeing Police get involved into sports incidents like this. As stupid as it is, it's still part of the game, and just another reason why the game is in the decline that it is today.

so if some guy took his skate off and sliced some guy's throat with it, he shouldn't be charged with anything? How about if he takes his stick and repeatedly beats another guy in the head?

These types of actions are NOT part of the game. A cheap shot with an elbow or checking from behind are parts of the game. Blatent disregard for a persons well being by assaulting them from behind with enough force to eventually break their neck is NOT part of the game.

Exactly.

So should every other player who takes a cheap shot at another player be charged as well...? Because I think that would be pretty much every play erin the league. Players say they are going to get a guy all the time, but now all of a sudden this one counts...? I'm not saying it's alright that he did it, but just because he accidentally hurt the guys neck doesn't mean he should be criminally charged. If someguy sticks a knee out, tears the ACL of some other player, ends his carreer, should that player be charged criminally as well...?

Accidentally, he said for THREE FUGGIN WEEKS THEY WERE GOING TO GET HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :| MAY ANNOUNCED IT PUBLICLY!!!!!!!!!

Pay attention to thats going on in the NHL before you try and step into teh ring with this bunch of guys.

May said it as a joke as that is what was expected of him by the media. Everyone was talking about it. Don't take that to be a "hit". I also doubt it was premeditated to hurt him purposely like that. Sure, he wanted to fight and rough him up, but not to break his vertebrae.

Rest of this season for sure... maybe next season too. He does need to get his act in gear.

 

[SweetSweetLeroyBrown]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: LAUST
it was bad enough to break his neck, 2 vertibre to be exact.

I hope Bertuzzi gets nailed to the wall for this, and the NHL needs to clean up their act also, they could have prevented this all from happening, the reffing this year has had an amazing need to be improved this year too.

I heard on the news that criminal charges are going to be filed. Ill search for a link.

Good. Bertuzzi deserves jail time.

I don't care what hockey "is all about"...no player goes on the ice consenting to a punch in the back of the head. NO way is such a cowardly act "part of the game".

 

[Cuda1447]

Bertuzzi def. deserves some very harsh punishment.

However, I don't believe he intended to hurt the guy to the degree that he did. (Of course I don't know how much he hated him). I'll bet he just wanted to rough him up nicely, and just got a bit lucky (or unlucky) by nailing him REAL good, and thus breaking his neck.



I hope the other guy recovers allright. How serious is the neck injury, is it something he'll be able to recover from?

 

[DigDug]

eggshell skull doctrine - a legal doctrine that says that someone is responsible for ALL results that occur from an intentional act, even if it turns out the the victim result was due to his or her excessive sensitivity. In other words, if you punch a guy in the face, and his timidity results in a heart attack, you are responsible.

Very intuitive.

 

[MrCodeDude]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Bertuzzi def. deserves some very harsh punishment.

However, I don't believe he intended to hurt the guy to the degree that he did. (Of course I don't know how much he hated him). I'll bet he just wanted to rough him up nicely, and just got a bit lucky (or unlucky) by nailing him REAL good, and thus breaking his neck.



I hope the other guy recovers allright. How serious is the neck injury, is it something he'll be able to recover from?

Probably not.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: MrCodeDude

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Bertuzzi def. deserves some very harsh punishment.

However, I don't believe he intended to hurt the guy to the degree that he did. (Of course I don't know how much he hated him). I'll bet he just wanted to rough him up nicely, and just got a bit lucky (or unlucky) by nailing him REAL good, and thus breaking his neck.



I hope the other guy recovers allright. How serious is the neck injury, is it something he'll be able to recover from?

Probably not.

I haven't heard anything about paralysis. But a continued hockey career, very unlikely.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: MrCodeDude

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Bertuzzi def. deserves some very harsh punishment.

However, I don't believe he intended to hurt the guy to the degree that he did. (Of course I don't know how much he hated him). I'll bet he just wanted to rough him up nicely, and just got a bit lucky (or unlucky) by nailing him REAL good, and thus breaking his neck.



I hope the other guy recovers allright. How serious is the neck injury, is it something he'll be able to recover from?

Probably not.

I haven't heard anything about paralysis. But a continued hockey career, very unlikely.

If Moore cant continue to play hockey, then I dont think that Bertuzzi should be able to either.