Anyone just going to say "the heck with it" and not going to vote?

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: NFS4
If you don't vote, you have no right to complain about or praise the direction of the country. If you don't vote, STFU, sit back, and enjoy the ride.

If someone is THAT far removed from reality that they don't even have the guts to go into the booth and pick a candidate -- hell, write in a candidate, or just vote for local offices -- then I think that person is pretty pathetic..

I've never understood this mentality. Why is participation in the process the gateway to discussion of the process or its results? If Obama is elected and turns America socialist, why should only the McCain voters have the 'right' to complain? If McCain is elected and starts 100 wars, why should only the Obama voters have the 'right' to complain?

If I, as an informed voter, look at the two major-party candidates and cannot in good conscience cast a vote for either, should I be forced to go to the polls and vote for "the lesser of two evils"? Or, possibly worse yet, vote for a third-party candidate that I have no allegiance to or knowledge of, just to 'send a message'? Let me tell you, voting third-party just to vote accomplishes no more than staying home does.

If anything, those who decide not to vote because there are no acceptable candidates may have MORE of a right to complain than the voters. If you voted, then presumably you liked the candidate you voted for. If that candidate lost, well then you're SOL. If you don't vote, you don't even have a candidate that's a POSSIBILITY of being acceptable. Not only can you complain about the choices the victor makes, but you can also complain about the lack of representation in the election.

Wow. idiocy 101 here.

If you choose the life of a cipher, you should be willing to be as silent as one.

Your lack of an opinion when it matters shouldn't grant you the greater voice after the fact. Do you think not voting absolves you from paying taxes? What kind of hypocrite complains about where their money is going when they openly declared, "I don't care?" Or what has become of the country when they already declared "I don't care!"

When do you start caring?

see that is another nice thing about this country, freedom of speech. i pay my taxes, obey the laws and yes i tried to join the militarty but failed the physical so do not get on my about serving my country.

So you gave up on serving your country? Lazy people who don't vote should really shut their mouths when it comes to talking about politics.

hmmm, lazy. lets see, i have a 40 hour per week job and do not collect welfare or anything else for free. yeah i am lazy

So you dont have time to vote (or register to vote) but you have time to trade on the forums and send out money/hardware?
Sounds like your priorities are out of whack.

And 40hr work-week? wtf? that's not "not lazy." It's standard. What about the people who work 60, 80...many many more hours during the week that still find the time to vote and educate themselves on the issues?

Do you think they would consider hclarjkr lazy? How valid would their opinion on that matter be?

 

[sactoking]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: NFS4
If you don't vote, you have no right to complain about or praise the direction of the country. If you don't vote, STFU, sit back, and enjoy the ride.

If someone is THAT far removed from reality that they don't even have the guts to go into the booth and pick a candidate -- hell, write in a candidate, or just vote for local offices -- then I think that person is pretty pathetic..

I've never understood this mentality. Why is participation in the process the gateway to discussion of the process or its results? If Obama is elected and turns America socialist, why should only the McCain voters have the 'right' to complain? If McCain is elected and starts 100 wars, why should only the Obama voters have the 'right' to complain?

If I, as an informed voter, look at the two major-party candidates and cannot in good conscience cast a vote for either, should I be forced to go to the polls and vote for "the lesser of two evils"? Or, possibly worse yet, vote for a third-party candidate that I have no allegiance to or knowledge of, just to 'send a message'? Let me tell you, voting third-party just to vote accomplishes no more than staying home does.

If anything, those who decide not to vote because there are no acceptable candidates may have MORE of a right to complain than the voters. If you voted, then presumably you liked the candidate you voted for. If that candidate lost, well then you're SOL. If you don't vote, you don't even have a candidate that's a POSSIBILITY of being acceptable. Not only can you complain about the choices the victor makes, but you can also complain about the lack of representation in the election.

Wow. idiocy 101 here.

If you choose the life of a cipher, you should be willing to be as silent as one.

Your lack of an opinion when it matters shouldn't grant you the greater voice after the fact. Do you think not voting absolves you from paying taxes? What kind of hypocrite complains about where their money is going when they openly declared, "I don't care?" Or what has become of the country when they already declared "I don't care!"

When do you start caring?

Reading comprehension lacks in you, dear moron.

Who said I lacked an opinion? YOU DID.

What I said was that neither the Republican nor Democrat candidate were acceptable. That is not lack of an opinion, that is lack of an OPTION.

There's this thing between your eyes and fingers, it's called a brain. Let it into the equation.

 

[hclarkjr]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: NFS4
If you don't vote, you have no right to complain about or praise the direction of the country. If you don't vote, STFU, sit back, and enjoy the ride.

If someone is THAT far removed from reality that they don't even have the guts to go into the booth and pick a candidate -- hell, write in a candidate, or just vote for local offices -- then I think that person is pretty pathetic..

I've never understood this mentality. Why is participation in the process the gateway to discussion of the process or its results? If Obama is elected and turns America socialist, why should only the McCain voters have the 'right' to complain? If McCain is elected and starts 100 wars, why should only the Obama voters have the 'right' to complain?

If I, as an informed voter, look at the two major-party candidates and cannot in good conscience cast a vote for either, should I be forced to go to the polls and vote for "the lesser of two evils"? Or, possibly worse yet, vote for a third-party candidate that I have no allegiance to or knowledge of, just to 'send a message'? Let me tell you, voting third-party just to vote accomplishes no more than staying home does.

If anything, those who decide not to vote because there are no acceptable candidates may have MORE of a right to complain than the voters. If you voted, then presumably you liked the candidate you voted for. If that candidate lost, well then you're SOL. If you don't vote, you don't even have a candidate that's a POSSIBILITY of being acceptable. Not only can you complain about the choices the victor makes, but you can also complain about the lack of representation in the election.

Wow. idiocy 101 here.

If you choose the life of a cipher, you should be willing to be as silent as one.

Your lack of an opinion when it matters shouldn't grant you the greater voice after the fact. Do you think not voting absolves you from paying taxes? What kind of hypocrite complains about where their money is going when they openly declared, "I don't care?" Or what has become of the country when they already declared "I don't care!"

When do you start caring?

see that is another nice thing about this country, freedom of speech. i pay my taxes, obey the laws and yes i tried to join the militarty but failed the physical so do not get on my about serving my country.

So you gave up on serving your country? Lazy people who don't vote should really shut their mouths when it comes to talking about politics.

hmmm, lazy. lets see, i have a 40 hour per week job and do not collect welfare or anything else for free. yeah i am lazy

So you dont have time to vote (or register to vote) but you have time to trade on the forums and send out money/hardware?
Sounds like your priorities are out of whack.

imagine if a lot of others in this country had my priorities.....

Thank God they don't, we don't need more lazy people who aren't going to vote.

there you go again calling me lazy based on your opinion of me because i am not going to vote. opinions are like assholes, everybody has one

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: NFS4
If you don't vote, you have no right to complain about or praise the direction of the country. If you don't vote, STFU, sit back, and enjoy the ride.

If someone is THAT far removed from reality that they don't even have the guts to go into the booth and pick a candidate -- hell, write in a candidate, or just vote for local offices -- then I think that person is pretty pathetic..

I've never understood this mentality. Why is participation in the process the gateway to discussion of the process or its results? If Obama is elected and turns America socialist, why should only the McCain voters have the 'right' to complain? If McCain is elected and starts 100 wars, why should only the Obama voters have the 'right' to complain?

If I, as an informed voter, look at the two major-party candidates and cannot in good conscience cast a vote for either, should I be forced to go to the polls and vote for "the lesser of two evils"? Or, possibly worse yet, vote for a third-party candidate that I have no allegiance to or knowledge of, just to 'send a message'? Let me tell you, voting third-party just to vote accomplishes no more than staying home does.

If anything, those who decide not to vote because there are no acceptable candidates may have MORE of a right to complain than the voters. If you voted, then presumably you liked the candidate you voted for. If that candidate lost, well then you're SOL. If you don't vote, you don't even have a candidate that's a POSSIBILITY of being acceptable. Not only can you complain about the choices the victor makes, but you can also complain about the lack of representation in the election.

Wow. idiocy 101 here.

If you choose the life of a cipher, you should be willing to be as silent as one.

Your lack of an opinion when it matters shouldn't grant you the greater voice after the fact. Do you think not voting absolves you from paying taxes? What kind of hypocrite complains about where their money is going when they openly declared, "I don't care?" Or what has become of the country when they already declared "I don't care!"

When do you start caring?

see that is another nice thing about this country, freedom of speech. i pay my taxes, obey the laws and yes i tried to join the militarty but failed the physical so do not get on my about serving my country.

So you gave up on serving your country? Lazy people who don't vote should really shut their mouths when it comes to talking about politics.

hmmm, lazy. lets see, i have a 40 hour per week job and do not collect welfare or anything else for free. yeah i am lazy

So you dont have time to vote (or register to vote) but you have time to trade on the forums and send out money/hardware?
Sounds like your priorities are out of whack.

And 40hr work-week? wtf? that's not "not lazy." It's standard. What about the people who work 60, 80...many many more hours during the week that still find the time to vote and educate themselves on the issues?

Do you think they would consider hclarjkr lazy? How valid would their opinion on that matter be?

You misunderstood me, I called him lazy because he said he didnt have time to vote or register to vote. That is all I am talking about here.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

i'm out of the country and couldn't get my absentee ballot in on time.

 

[Kirby]

trim quotes plz

 

[hclarkjr]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: NFS4
If you don't vote, you have no right to complain about or praise the direction of the country. If you don't vote, STFU, sit back, and enjoy the ride.

If someone is THAT far removed from reality that they don't even have the guts to go into the booth and pick a candidate -- hell, write in a candidate, or just vote for local offices -- then I think that person is pretty pathetic..

I've never understood this mentality. Why is participation in the process the gateway to discussion of the process or its results? If Obama is elected and turns America socialist, why should only the McCain voters have the 'right' to complain? If McCain is elected and starts 100 wars, why should only the Obama voters have the 'right' to complain?

If I, as an informed voter, look at the two major-party candidates and cannot in good conscience cast a vote for either, should I be forced to go to the polls and vote for "the lesser of two evils"? Or, possibly worse yet, vote for a third-party candidate that I have no allegiance to or knowledge of, just to 'send a message'? Let me tell you, voting third-party just to vote accomplishes no more than staying home does.

If anything, those who decide not to vote because there are no acceptable candidates may have MORE of a right to complain than the voters. If you voted, then presumably you liked the candidate you voted for. If that candidate lost, well then you're SOL. If you don't vote, you don't even have a candidate that's a POSSIBILITY of being acceptable. Not only can you complain about the choices the victor makes, but you can also complain about the lack of representation in the election.

Wow. idiocy 101 here.

If you choose the life of a cipher, you should be willing to be as silent as one.

Your lack of an opinion when it matters shouldn't grant you the greater voice after the fact. Do you think not voting absolves you from paying taxes? What kind of hypocrite complains about where their money is going when they openly declared, "I don't care?" Or what has become of the country when they already declared "I don't care!"

When do you start caring?

see that is another nice thing about this country, freedom of speech. i pay my taxes, obey the laws and yes i tried to join the militarty but failed the physical so do not get on my about serving my country.

So you gave up on serving your country? Lazy people who don't vote should really shut their mouths when it comes to talking about politics.

hmmm, lazy. lets see, i have a 40 hour per week job and do not collect welfare or anything else for free. yeah i am lazy

So you dont have time to vote (or register to vote) but you have time to trade on the forums and send out money/hardware?
Sounds like your priorities are out of whack.

And 40hr work-week? wtf? that's not "not lazy." It's standard. What about the people who work 60, 80...many many more hours during the week that still find the time to vote and educate themselves on the issues?

Do you think they would consider hclarjkr lazy? How valid would their opinion on that matter be?

You misunderstood me, I called him lazy because he said he didnt have time to vote or register to vote. That is all I am talking about here.

i never said i did not have time to register to vote. i choose to not too vote because i feel that if they did not want me for the military they do not need me to vote

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: NFS4
If you don't vote, you have no right to complain about or praise the direction of the country. If you don't vote, STFU, sit back, and enjoy the ride.

If someone is THAT far removed from reality that they don't even have the guts to go into the booth and pick a candidate -- hell, write in a candidate, or just vote for local offices -- then I think that person is pretty pathetic..

I've never understood this mentality. Why is participation in the process the gateway to discussion of the process or its results? If Obama is elected and turns America socialist, why should only the McCain voters have the 'right' to complain? If McCain is elected and starts 100 wars, why should only the Obama voters have the 'right' to complain?

If I, as an informed voter, look at the two major-party candidates and cannot in good conscience cast a vote for either, should I be forced to go to the polls and vote for "the lesser of two evils"? Or, possibly worse yet, vote for a third-party candidate that I have no allegiance to or knowledge of, just to 'send a message'? Let me tell you, voting third-party just to vote accomplishes no more than staying home does.

If anything, those who decide not to vote because there are no acceptable candidates may have MORE of a right to complain than the voters. If you voted, then presumably you liked the candidate you voted for. If that candidate lost, well then you're SOL. If you don't vote, you don't even have a candidate that's a POSSIBILITY of being acceptable. Not only can you complain about the choices the victor makes, but you can also complain about the lack of representation in the election.

Wow. idiocy 101 here.

If you choose the life of a cipher, you should be willing to be as silent as one.

Your lack of an opinion when it matters shouldn't grant you the greater voice after the fact. Do you think not voting absolves you from paying taxes? What kind of hypocrite complains about where their money is going when they openly declared, "I don't care?" Or what has become of the country when they already declared "I don't care!"

When do you start caring?

see that is another nice thing about this country, freedom of speech. i pay my taxes, obey the laws and yes i tried to join the militarty but failed the physical so do not get on my about serving my country.

So you gave up on serving your country? Lazy people who don't vote should really shut their mouths when it comes to talking about politics.

hmmm, lazy. lets see, i have a 40 hour per week job and do not collect welfare or anything else for free. yeah i am lazy

So you dont have time to vote (or register to vote) but you have time to trade on the forums and send out money/hardware?
Sounds like your priorities are out of whack.

imagine if a lot of others in this country had my priorities.....

Thank God they don't, we don't need more lazy people who aren't going to vote.

there you go again calling me lazy based on your opinion of me because i am not going to vote. opinions are like assholes, everybody has one

You call voting a waste of time, yet you make plenty of time to trade computer stuff on these forums (as recently as a couple of weeks ago). This is why I call you lazy.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

i never said i did not have time to register to vote. i choose to not too vote because i feel that if they did not want me for the military they do not need me to vote

You said "voting is a waste of time".

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: MrPickins
I'll definitely vote in the local elections, but I might abstain from voting in the presidential election.

this

 

[hclarkjr]

You call voting a waste of time, yet you make plenty of time to trade computer stuff on these forums (as recently as a couple of weeks ago). This is why I call you lazy.

what the hell does me trading hardware and selling it have to do with this?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: zinfamous

And 40hr work-week? wtf? that's not "not lazy." It's standard. What about the people who work 60, 80...many many more hours during the week that still find the time to vote and educate themselves on the issues?

Do you think they would consider hclarjkr lazy? How valid would their opinion on that matter be?

You misunderstood me, I called him lazy because he said he didnt have time to vote or register to vote. That is all I am talking about here.

actually, I was merely referring to him, not you. I decided to include your response b/c it was already there.

That being said...I don't see how my comment is unrelated to your calling him lazy because he claims to not have the time to vote. His excuse is 40 hour work-week.
I point out the lameness of this excuse.

ANYONE who works full-time has at least a 40-hour work week.

And your job can't stop you from voting. it's EXTREMELY ILLEGAL.

 

[hclarkjr]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

i never said i did not have time to register to vote. i choose to not too vote because i feel that if they did not want me for the military they do not need me to vote

You said "voting is a waste of time".

so how do you get i don't have time to register from that?

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

You call voting a waste of time, yet you make plenty of time to trade computer stuff on these forums (as recently as a couple of weeks ago). This is why I call you lazy.

what the hell does me trading hardware and selling it have to do with this?

Time to do that, but no time to contribute to your country. Is that too hard for you to understand? Jeebus.

 

[Gooberlx2]

People can suit themselves, but I don't understand why someone would totally abstain from being a part of a process which has substantial direct and indirect impact on their lives.

 

[hclarkjr]

and talking about priorities you seem to have time to criticize me here and i am betting you are at work doing this?? who's priorities are messed up now?

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: zinfamous

And 40hr work-week? wtf? that's not "not lazy." It's standard. What about the people who work 60, 80...many many more hours during the week that still find the time to vote and educate themselves on the issues?

Do you think they would consider hclarjkr lazy? How valid would their opinion on that matter be?

You misunderstood me, I called him lazy because he said he didnt have time to vote or register to vote. That is all I am talking about here.

actually, I was merely referring to him, not you. I decided to include your response b/c it was already there.

That being said...I don't see how my comment is unrelated to your calling him lazy because he claims to not have the time to vote. His excuse is 40 hour work-week.
I point out the lameness of this excuse.

ANYONE who works full-time has at least a 40-hour work week.

And your job can't stop you from voting. it's EXTREMELY ILLEGAL.

:thumbsup:

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

i never said i did not have time to register to vote. i choose to not too vote because i feel that if they did not want me for the military they do not need me to vote

You said "voting is a waste of time".

That does NOT mean he doesn't have the time to do it or is too lazy. I have plenty of time to vote, I'm just not going to, just like I didn't four years ago, etc. And Just like the last elections, I won't bitch about who wins either, because I don't care. The world isn't going to end because of this.

 

[Wheezer]

I have pretty much decided fuck it....I hate both, it is obviously through the bailout that was approved the Congress and the person who is or will be in office don't give a fuck either....I have had so many bullshit ads thrown at me via tv, email and snail mail that I have reached my saturation point I hate them all.

It is my right to vote, it is also my right to NOT vote...it's mine and I can do whatever the fuck I want to do with it.

cast it or not.

I do not think that people should be given time off work to go vote, but if given a choice I would rather stay on the job and earn money than stand in a fucking line for 2 hours listening to idiots bitch whine and complain about one candidate or the other.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

i never said i did not have time to register to vote. i choose to not too vote because i feel that if they did not want me for the military they do not need me to vote

You said "voting is a waste of time".

so how do you get i don't have time to register from that?

You had also said you were "too busy with your 40-hour work week."
:violin;

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: hclarkjr
and talking about priorities you seem to have time to criticize me here and i am betting you are at work doing this?? who's priorities are messed up now?

Multi-tasking is not hard to do for me. I am doing my job at the same time.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: hclarkjr
and talking about priorities you seem to have time to criticize me here and i am betting you are at work doing this?? who's priorities are messed up now?

deflection 101. Good job, but you're doing it wrong.

queue Godwin in 3, 2....

 

[whattaguy]

I never received my absentee/vote-by-mail ballot.

 

[rh71]

i'm not voting because they make you register again... and we didn't. I wasn't aware we had to re-register, partially because we've been hiding under a rock.

I will eat my words if it turns out to be untrue, but if Dems didn't always win NY, then I would've worried about this whole process the whole time... I'm on the O train so I hadn't been worried.

 

[hclarkjr]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: hclarkjr

i never said i did not have time to register to vote. i choose to not too vote because i feel that if they did not want me for the military they do not need me to vote

You said "voting is a waste of time".

so how do you get i don't have time to register from that?

You had also said you were "too busy with your 40-hour work week."
:violin;

i never said that either. funny how people are putting words in my mouth to make agruments