Anyone getting tired of this traitor yet?

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: Winchester

You must think you know something simply because you googled it.

google was right and you weren't. google was free. how much was your 4 year education?

We have bailed France out of 2 world wars in the last 100 years and they have continually come back to bite us in the ass.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Crazee

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Crazee
Whether you think Chavez is a dangerous man is immaterial. We are not at war with them, we don't have embargos on them like Cuba. They are not our enemy so it cannot be collaboration just because you don't like it :roll:

he's in bed with Castro. it's just a matter of time before his hate for the United States comes to a head.

read what he has to say about our President, our government, our people. he is not a person Sheehan should be getting involved with no matter how much she wants to blame Bush for her son's death.

I have read what he has said about our President, our government and our people. I know he has relations with Castro as do many other countries. Again all immaterial until sanctions or war are declared. He and the country of Venezuela are not enemies of the US.

Pat Robertson called for Chavez's assassination so he is a dangerous man. If that is the case should we exile or threaten to put his congregation in shackles because they are associating with a dangerous man?

If people would stop overreacting to crap like this it would fade away. By reacting like this it only keeps the person you don't like in the limelight longer.

when someone says the radical things he has against our President and our government i wouldn't exactly him our friend. the only reason we stay on speaking terms is because we need their oil and they need us to buy it.

Chavez calls our President "Mr Danger", a reference to a blue-eyed American in a 1929 novel who robs land from unwary Venezuelan peasants.
he has great hate for our country and our way of life. Sheehan did nothing to help her popularity in our country by sucking Chavez's c#ck.
i never mentioned anything about putting her in shackles for this. so don't pin that on me.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
We have bailed France out of 2 world wars in the last 100 years and they have continually come back to bite us in the ass.

Just because I help someone out doesn't mean they are obligated to back me even when I'm wrong. Logic like that is not logic at all, but blind partisan rhetoric.

 

[OdiN]

She's from Berkeley...what do you expect from people from that town? The whole town is a bunch of nutjobs.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
She just doesn't want any more people to go through what she did.

what? she thinks the military in our country is going to cease to exist?

 

[whistleclient]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: Winchester

You must think you know something simply because you googled it.

google was right and you weren't. google was free. how much was your 4 year education?

We have bailed France out of 2 world wars in the last 100 years and they have continually come back to bite us in the ass.

Ohhhh... you're one of those freedom fry guys. How have they bit us in the ass? Give me dates when they've physically attacked our country.

Oh, and by the way: disagreeing with our foreign policy doesn't count as "biting us in the ass".

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

when someone says the radical things he has against our President and our government i wouldn't exactly him our friend. the only reason we stay on speaking terms is because we need their oil and they need us to buy it.

Chavez calls our President "Mr Danger", a reference to a blue-eyed American in a 1929 novel who robs land from unwary Venezuelan peasants.
he has great hate for our country and our way of life. Sheehan did nothing to help her popularity in our country by sucking Chavez's c#ck.
i never mentioned anything about putting her in shackles for this. so don't pin that on me.

they need us less and less every day. they are in the process of forging HUGE trading deals with China. once that is in full force, they will no longer need us. then the fun will begin.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: AStar617
I agree 100%... but why is this in ATOT and not P&N?

because P&N thinks she's all that and bag of cornnuts.

Right, all of three people in P&N. And the only people who actually post threads about her are conservative, so your point is moot.

"your point is moot" that is so P&N lingo :laugh:

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
"your point is moot" that is so P&N lingo :laugh:

I'm a product of my environment, sue me.

 

[mugs]

Eh... I don't really care what she has to say. Many parents go on a rampage when their kids die, I guess it's part of the grieving process.

I wouldn't put it past the retards in CA to elect her, although perhaps she should have started smaller - like the House of Representatives. She might have a shot there.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Ronstang
We have bailed France out of 2 world wars in the last 100 years and they have continually come back to bite us in the ass.

Just because I help someone out doesn't mean they are obligated to back me even when I'm wrong. Logic like that is not logic at all, but blind partisan rhetoric.

Funny though, they wouldn't have the opportunity to oppose us if we didn't save their ass.

(I do think it's funny how the French feel that we owe them something because of LaFayette. It just goes to show what's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.)

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: uhohs

Hugo Chavez, his arm around Sheehan's shoulders, told a group of activists that Sheehan had told him that during Holy Week, in April, "she is going to put up her tent again in front of Mr. Danger's ranch."

MR. DANGER
ROFL
awesome

as opposed to what might've been - Mr. Wishy Washy Flip Flop

 

[whistleclient]

Originally posted by: mugs
Eh... I don't really care what she has to say. Many parents go on a rampage when their kids die, I guess it's part of the grieving process.

I wouldn't put it past the retards in CA to elect her, although perhaps she should have started smaller - like the House of Representatives. She might have a shot there.

Dude, you live in New Jersey. Your entire state smells like poop.

Seriously.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Ronstang
We have bailed France out of 2 world wars in the last 100 years and they have continually come back to bite us in the ass.

Just because I help someone out doesn't mean they are obligated to back me even when I'm wrong. Logic like that is not logic at all, but blind partisan rhetoric.

Funny though, they wouldn't have the opportunity to oppose us if we didn't save their ass.

(I do think it's funny how the French feel that we owe them something because of LaFayette. It just goes to show what's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.)

Why's that funny? Why is it even relevant? What kind of point are you making?

Have you polled the French on what they think we owe them? I bet some loud political pundits in France say that, just like loud pundits and partisan hacks in Americas say they owe us. The idea of countries "owing" each other is absurd. World War II, World War I, the Revolutionary War, they all happened many years ago. The people who fought are dead or dying, and the only thing left of that era politically is this nonsensicle notion that intangible personalities called countries owe each other anything.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: mugs
Eh... I don't really care what she has to say. Many parents go on a rampage when their kids die, I guess it's part of the grieving process.

I wouldn't put it past the retards in CA to elect her, although perhaps she should have started smaller - like the House of Representatives. She might have a shot there.

Dude, you live in New Jersey. Your entire state smells like poop.

Seriously.

gtfo

 

[whistleclient]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: uhohs

Hugo Chavez, his arm around Sheehan's shoulders, told a group of activists that Sheehan had told him that during Holy Week, in April, "she is going to put up her tent again in front of Mr. Danger's ranch."

MR. DANGER
ROFL
awesome

as opposed to what might've been - Mr. Wishy Washy Flip Flop

Mr Wishy Washy Flip Flop fought in Vietnam. Mr Danger had his rich daddy protect him.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: tangent1138
Dude, you live in New Jersey. Your entire state smells like poop.

Seriously.

Sounds like you haven't seen much of it other than the Newark/Camden areas.

 

[etalns]

Originally posted by: mugs
Eh... I don't really care what she has to say. Many parents go on a rampage when their kids die, I guess it's part of the grieving process.

I wouldn't put it past the retards in CA to elect her, although perhaps she should have started smaller - like the House of Representatives. She might have a shot there.

I disagree.

She's already slated in for Terminator 4.

She's going to the top, baby!

Silly Americans.

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: AStar617
I agree 100%... but why is this in ATOT and not P&N?

because P&N thinks she's all that and bag of cornnuts.

I like cornnuts...

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: Winchester
Textbook Traitor

She should not ever be allowed back on American soil except when being immediately placed in shackles.

Actually, I'm tired of people like you-- people who don't understand that being an American means having FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

She disagrees with you. Get over it.

so in other words you don't think the OP should have freedom of speech?

BLEEEE!!!!

 

[spidey07]

eitherway, her credibilty is ruined and she will forever be hated by the US.

she's not the first to try this stunt.

 

[Injury]

Did they get rid of P&N?

Oh, they didn't? Guess you should have posted this there, then.

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: Winchester

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Winchester

Originally posted by: Elderly Newt
Except we have freedom of speech in America, so I don't know how well that would hold up.

There is a difference between collaborating with an enemy of the United States and free speech. Her actions are no different than if she went and fought beside Osama. She has now done the same thing.

so when our govt funds foreign govt (Iraq) etc that is somehow better than what she did?

just because they are elected officials, it doesn't mean that they are held to a different standard. if what she did is traitorous than many of our presidents have also been traitorous.

We fund allies. Sometimes those allies turn around and bite us and therefore become enemies, hence, WWI, WWII, and so on.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

World War I started when Archduke Franz Ferdinand was murdered by Black Hand, a Serbian nationalist secret society. Austria-Hungry demanded justice. When Serbia didn't produce the assassins, Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia on July 28th, 1914.

Russia, bound by treaty to Serbia, announced mobilization of its vast army in her defense.

Germany, allied to Austria-Hungary by treaty, viewed the Russian mobilization as an act of war against Austria-Hungary, and declared war on Russia on August 1st.

France, bound by treaty to Russia, found itself at war against Germany and, by extension, on Austria-Hungary. Germany was swift in invading neutral Belgium so as to reach Paris by the shortest possible route.

Britain, allied to France by a more loosely worded treaty which placed a "moral obligation" upon her to defend France, declared war against Germany on August 4th.

With Germany's invasion of Belgium on 4 August, and the Belgian King's appeal to Britain for assistance, Britain committed herself to Belgium's defence later that day. Like France, she was by extension also at war with Austria-Hungary.

With Britain's entry into the war, her colonies and dominions abroad variously offered military and financial assistance, and included Australia, Canada, India, New Zealand and the Union of South Africa.

United States President Woodrow Wilson declared a U.S. policy of absolute neutrality, an official stance that would last until 1917 when Germany's policy of unrestricted submarine warfare - which seriously threatened America's commercial shipping- forced the U.S. to finally enter the war on April 6th 1917.



See, you learned something today.

So...the Onion headline was right.
August 5, 1914: "Austria declares war on Serbia declares war on Germany declares war on France declares war on Turkey declares war on Russia declares war on Bulgaria declares war on Britian. Ottoman Empire almost declares war on itself. Nations struggle to remember allies."

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Injury
Did they get rid of P&N?

Oh, they didn't? Guess you should have posted this there, then.

 

[whistleclient]

alright, I'm out of this thread. threads like this only lead to me being disappointed in my fellow Americans.

but before i go i'll leave you with a story:

when i was growing up, the Nazi party was huge where i lived. one day, they threw a parade down my street. after my mom explained to me what the Nazi party stood for, I asked her why they were allowed to march. She told me that they're Americans and being an American means having the freedom to speak your ideas, even if no one likes them. I asked her what we would do during the parade. She told me we'd close our windows and ignore them. And that's what everyone on the street. They just ignored them. No one gave them any attention.

You can agree or disagree with her, but make no mistake she's just using her freedom of speech. Our soldiers are dying in Iraq to give the people there the same freedom.