Any people over 40 here go running/jogging?

[igor_kavinski]

A few weeks later and it was determined to be precancerous and scooped out.

Make sure that your Vitamin D levels are always optimal. Low Vitamin D can allow cancer cells to flourish.

 

[A///]

Make sure that your Vitamin D levels are always optimal. Low Vitamin D can allow cancer cells to flourish.

They were checked a few months before then and were fine. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary because I was always looking for extreme mutations on a mole. The pain post removing it was sharp on the first day with a dull throbbing pain for a couple weeks before disappearing. It reminded me a lot of my Ex.

 

[Muse]

I was a pretty steady runner (6+ miles most days, faster than a jogger!) until a bit over 40, when my left foot suddenly hurt really bad and I've never run since. Took up swimming bigtime for 10 years, at first 1 mile/day, soon 2 miles 7 days a week (plus 1.5 hours in the weight room before the swim). At that point pain in my left shoulder made it impossible to keep swimming. I eventually had surgery for that foot and that shoulder, but I still don't run or swim. Instead I skate... nearly every day, 10 miles, wearing heart rate monitor. Kept me strong and vital during pandemic, although I'm sure I've lost very significant muscle mass being out of the gym (before pandemic 3x/week). I will get back in the gym soon... if I'm not afraid of catching covid.

Edit:

If you do run, do those stretches for your calves before you go out there. It should go a long way towards preventing the plantar fasciitis that ended my running.

 

[mikeymikec]

I've seen a physio who reckons it's a hamstring injury with some piriformis involvement. I'm experiencing a bit of NHS bureaucracy too:

I contacted GP, had a telephone appointment, he thought I needed a physio referral so he sorted that for me. I saw a physio the other day who felt I needed some rehab time with a physio so he gave me the local physio number to ring, I did and they said someone would ring me back, they rang back to say that a physio would have a telephone appointment with me... I did point out that I was referred by a physio already, but hey ho. I just hope that by the time they get their butts in gear, I'll still be experiencing symptoms because I'd guess that I'm in about week 4 of recovery and it took about six weeks last time.

 

[Torn Mind]

I was a pretty steady runner (6+ miles most days, faster than a jogger!) until a bit over 40, when my left foot suddenly hurt really bad and I've never run since. Took up swimming bigtime for 10 years, at first 1 mile/day, soon 2 miles 7 days a week (plus 1.5 hours in the weight room before the swim). At that point pain in my left shoulder made it impossible to keep swimming. I eventually had surgery for that foot and that shoulder, but I still don't run or swim. Instead I skate... nearly every day, 10 miles, wearing heart rate monitor. Kept me strong and vital during pandemic, although I'm sure I've lost very significant muscle mass being out of the gym (before pandemic 3x/week). I will get back in the gym soon... if I'm not afraid of catching covid.

Edit:

If you do run, do those stretches for your calves before you go out there. It should go a long way towards preventing the plantar fasciitis that ended my running.

The deep muscles of the lower leg require different stretches than the ones for the calves. Along with some real good fingerwork for the likes of the tibilias anterior.

I find it effect to combine a stretch with trigger point therapy. While a muscles is stress, apply pressure to an achy point you feel with the thumb, multiple fingers, etc and let the muscle "decompress".

The rhomboids can create hell in the mind if left unattended to.

 

[A///]

I'm having a massive problem with my finger joints and wrists. I was referred to a specialist and then a 2nd opinion but it isn't looking like cpt problems. there is nothing wrong with the nerves and no inflammation. It feels like I've been holding bags all the day long in my hands and it doesn't go away. the fullness feeling goes away when running and im thinking it's a circulation issue. I went out to the shops this morning and bought a load of criculation promoting foods, then stopped by the pharmacy and grabbed a bottle of quality norweigan fish oil. onions are said to be great natural blood thinners. raw onions are difficult for mt to digest. it feels like I've got a football stuck in my stomach for hours no matter how well I chew them. cooked is fine but it's said you want to eat them raw for their full effect.

on pure running my lower back no longer throbs due to the constant running and some gym time. the muscles there do feel bigger and denser than they did long ago. my lower back doesn't hurt anymore doing the dishes which I used to hate doing and would pile it into the dishwasher to do the work for me. need new shoes soon.

 

[igor_kavinski]

It feels like I've been holding bags all the day long in my hands and it doesn't go away. the fullness feeling goes away when running and im thinking it's a circulation issue. I went out to the shops this morning and bought a load of criculation promoting foods

Which foods? Turmeric/curcumin supplements/ginger/garlic/cayenne pepper are good for circulation.

 

[A///]

Which foods? Turmeric/curcumin supplements/ginger/garlic/cayenne pepper are good for circulation.

those are spices.

 

[Muse]

I'm having a massive problem with my finger joints and wrists. I was referred to a specialist and then a 2nd opinion but it isn't looking like cpt problems. there is nothing wrong with the nerves and no inflammation. It feels like I've been holding bags all the day long in my hands and it doesn't go away. the fullness feeling goes away when running and im thinking it's a circulation issue. I went out to the shops this morning and bought a load of criculation promoting foods, then stopped by the pharmacy and grabbed a bottle of quality norweigan fish oil. onions are said to be great natural blood thinners. raw onions are difficult for mt to digest. it feels like I've got a football stuck in my stomach for hours no matter how well I chew them. cooked is fine but it's said you want to eat them raw for their full effect.

on pure running my lower back no longer throbs due to the constant running and some gym time. the muscles there do feel bigger and denser than they did long ago. my lower back doesn't hurt anymore doing the dishes which I used to hate doing and would pile it into the dishwasher to do the work for me. need new shoes soon.

My suggestion is to check out Michelle's videos. Not saying you shouldn't seek help from doctor(s), but I suggest you be cautious with them. I've seen 3 different hand surgeons since injuring my dominant hand pinky mid-April and I'm not sure I consider any of them competent. Same for my occupational therapist. I DO, however, have immense confidence in Michelle. I suggest you subscribe, she has 72 thousand subscribers:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=virtual+hand+care

 

[igor_kavinski]

I've seen 3 different hand surgeons

Surgeons will do what they have been trained to do. Surgery. If they say that they want to do surgery as a last resort, I believe many of them in their heart know that isn't true. They would do it immediately but don't want to appear too eager. I went to the Orthopaedics head surgeon of a reputable hospital here, thinking he would have some better treatment method. Gave me some injection in my butt to loosen my back muscles and said, if this doesn't solve it, three days later, we will need to do surgical intervention. I never went back to him. Never had surgery. Thank God for that, otherwise I would be walking with a cane right now.

 

[Muse]

Surgeons will do what they have been trained to do. Surgery. If they say that they want to do surgery as a last resort, I believe many of them in their heart know that isn't true. They would do it immediately but don't want to appear too eager. I went to the Orthopaedics head surgeon of a reputable hospital here, thinking he would have some better treatment method. Gave me some injection in my butt to loosen my back muscles and said, if this doesn't solve it, three days later, we will need to do surgical intervention. I never went back to him. Never had surgery. Thank God for that, otherwise I would be walking with a cane right now.

It was only after I asked for an MRI (at my $200 expense) that the surgeon (who I'd seen a few times) suggested surgery. I asked for 2nd opinion, which was his hand surgeon colleague, who said she never operated on my condition and recommended 6 weeks 24/7 straight splinting and take it from there with therapy. That's how this has been playing out but my response to the therapy has been less than stellar. I figure be patient and especially pay attention to the YT Virtual Hand Care videos.

 

[Muse]

Surgeons will do what they have been trained to do. Surgery. If they say that they want to do surgery as a last resort, I believe many of them in their heart know that isn't true. They would do it immediately but don't want to appear too eager. I went to the Orthopaedics head surgeon of a reputable hospital here, thinking he would have some better treatment method. Gave me some injection in my butt to loosen my back muscles and said, if this doesn't solve it, three days later, we will need to do surgical intervention. I never went back to him. Never had surgery. Thank God for that, otherwise I would be walking with a cane right now.

Good move on your part. I have never been there, but have had pretty bad back issues in the past but surgery was never discussed. I have heard more than once that back surgery has a bad average prognosis. Most people who have it don't do well. I suppose there are times it does help. Tiger Woods IIRC had a couple vertebrae fused together. In his case, I suppose, he benefited. Then again, he can afford the best treatment out there. I am sure I haven't gotten that for my finger injury. I was very nervous about the finger surgery I figured to have. At first I was "yeah, let's do this," but the fear came on and when the other surgeon said don't do it, I was straight up relieved. Now, I have had foot surgery and shoulder surgery, both of which had long and painful post-surgical recoveries but I wasn't as nervous about those as I was for finger surgery. Maybe partly because those other ones were arthroscopic.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Tiger Woods IIRC had a couple vertebrae fused together. In his case, I suppose, he benefited. Then again, he can afford the best treatment out there.

He has enough money to sue the bejeezus out of them so there's that too

I read somewhere that neodymium magnets worn on fingers could promote healthy blood flow and aid healing because the iron in the red blood cells is attracted to them.

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• May help alleviate pain, bruising and swelling
• May improve arthritis in joints
• May improve circulation to extremities of body
• May speed recovery of injuries such as breaks, sprains, (sports injuries)

Never used them. The idea of such strong magnets is a bit unnerving. Would need to research more to see how safe they are.

 

[mike8675309]

I wouldn't do running for bone density. I also wouldn't just start running if you haven't done so for a while. I would start with run then walk, then run, then walk. Do that for 2 weeks with 2 minutes run, 3 minutes walk. Then increase the run period over time until you get to where you are mostly running. While doing that make sure you are eating a balanced diet to help support your body as it starts to realize you are serious and recruits the build-up of ligaments, cartilage, and muscles to support your effort.

If you want to increase bone density, the #1 to do that is to start resistance training. That means lifting weights. Yes, running will recruit some skeletal bone strength but lifting weights in a program designed to increase overall strength will do it faster, and with less risk of injury. Just like running, start light,get the movements down correctly and gradually add weight. Give your body the food it needs, and a balanced diet to build the things needed as you ask it to do more than it has in the past.

 

[KMFJD]

I just started to do some light jogging/running on the downhill portion of my daily power walk as it hurts my shins less than walking downhill....probably the first time in 20 years i've ran...so far so good

 

[mikeymikec]

@mike8675309 - I started according to the couch to 5k programme, I've been steadily working up to this. Also, the osteoporosis society considers running to be a good thing to help build bone density.

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I've seen a physio who has given me some exercises. She thinks that my hamstrings are too tight (when I try to touch my toes, my fingertips are about 30cm from the floor, maybe more) and the exercise I've been doing has been doing cumulative damage until I pulled it, which makes sense given that I haven't felt like I was overdoing it at all and suddenly it all went to shit.

 

[igor_kavinski]

touch my toes

8 Stretches That Will Help You Touch Your Toes

Because you're probably not stretching as much as you should.

www.self.com

These might be helpful.

 

[Muadib]

8 Stretches That Will Help You Touch Your Toes

Because you're probably not stretching as much as you should.

www.self.com

These might be helpful.

I got made fun of when I did this in high school. It's been many decades, but I'm glad to see that I was right.

 

[Zor Prime]

I'm over 40 but you won't catch me running or jogging at any point in my life. I hate running or jogging. I'm far too lazy for that, no thank you. I hate almost all exercise. That's why I row and lift.

 

[mike8675309]

@mike8675309 - I started according to the couch to 5k programme, I've been steadily working up to this. Also, the osteoporosis society considers running to be a good thing to help build bone density.

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I've seen a physio who has given me some exercises. She thinks that my hamstrings are too tight (when I try to touch my toes, my fingertips are about 30cm from the floor, maybe more) and the exercise I've been doing has been doing cumulative damage until I pulled it, which makes sense given that I haven't felt like I was overdoing it at all and suddenly it all went to shit.

Couch to 5k programs are pretty good, though they don't really work on running form, which is important.

Running is better for bone density than sitting on a couch and should be part of a general fitness program if you can do it.
But you also get joint wear that you have to deal with when running as well.
Resistance lifting is much better for bone density than running, and it has less joint wear and should be a part of any fitness program to hold off osteoporosis.

And if you think running is easier than lifting heavy weights, think again. If you want to get into running you need to be careful as what you naturally do may not be ideal and could lead to injuries. The same goes for heavy lifting. You need to know how to do it to benefit from it and reduce injury risk.

Just start out slow, eat enough food to fuel your efforts. Everyone should keep in mind how powerful the human body is to adapt to change. When starting to get active after a period of not being active you need to send signals to your body that you are going to do different things. Start walking, your body will get the signals it needs to strengthen tendons and reinforce cartilage. Start lifting light to get your body to start recruiting the things it needs to support those movements in your body. And again fuel your body to support these changes. Eat a wide variety of plants, don't cut your calories at this time. Just get going. It can take a month or longer depending on your age before you can really start working hard.

 

[nOOky]

I do a bit of running, please don't ever call me a jogger. Joggers jog in place at stoplights, runners just stand there looking pissed. It seems runners are always training on the verge of injury, it's the fine line you have to walk to have a healthy running career.

I train mostly for ultramarathons, so I guess I'm a serious runner. I also try to fit biking into my training, and I lift weights and do a lot of core work as really long races over 12 hours expose muscle imbalances. I basically ignore advice that says running is bad for the knees etc. as that has long been disproven unless you're prone genetically to having bad joints.

The hardest part of any exercise plan is the diet. If losing weight or gaining muscle is the goal diet will impact it the most. Surprised to see all of the supplements mentioned, start with basic solid diet plans using general common sense like eliminating processed anything and sugar etc. unless you like popping pills and spending money.

Running is hard, take it easy and take it slow to avoid injury. But starting out it is tough to find your weaknesses and work on them until you expose them.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I'm over 40 but you won't catch me running or jogging at any point in my life. I hate running or jogging. I'm far too lazy for that, no thank you. I hate almost all exercise. That's why I row and lift.

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[Scarpozzi]

I took an aerobics class in 2015. We did a lot of burpees and many of the movements were focused on jumping and lunging....which all worked the muscles just above the knee.

The other moves were high knees to work those hamstrings and buttocks muscles. So....walking and lifting your knees as high in the air as you can. Look into those kinds of moves.... If you have a gym nearby, look into hip adductor/abductor machines. You need the abductors more, but should do both.

When you get hurt running, stop running. Rest and if you decide to restart, decide if you have an impact injury...if so, switch to low impact like an elliptical.... especially for lower leg or foot injuries.

 

[Pohemi]

To answer OP: No, but for what it's worth...I haven't ran/jogged since I was in middle school in the late 80s. Always hated running tbh, too slow and too much impact compared to cycling. I also enjoyed swimming quite a bit. Aquatic exercise is still a good thing for me, but I'm no longer able to swim laps like I use to. Legs turn to mush after a bit, muscular stamina gets affected by my nerves.

I have bad peripheral neuropathy in my lower body now, which makes any activity a harder fight, and that would definitely prevent it even if I DID want to run. I use a cane part of the time, and my legs like to spontaneously turn to wet noodles when I'm just walking (usually only one at a time so I'm not face-planting or anything like that...but I do need to 'catch myself' occasionally.)

 

[ch33zw1z]

Older adults should take care to ease into any exercise routine. If you’re inactive for long durations, your bone density could be impacted and muscles / tendons as well