Any people over 40 here go running/jogging?

[mikeymikec]

I'm having problems with picking up injuries and I'm wondering if my expectations for my body/age are out of kilter with reality.

Up until my most recent injury I was going jogging about twice a week, three times if I had time, always with at least a day's rest from running in between. I typically go running in the evening as it seems that no amount of attempted warm-up exercises will help my body work 'normally' in the AM for jogging. My routine has been a 5 minute brisk walk followed by light jogging, typically for about 19 minutes. Recently, I did this at least three times in a row. At the end of one of the earlier occasions, I felt like doing a faster run, bringing up the pace to about 75% of a flat-out sprint for about 50 metres, stopped when I thought was sensible (as opposed to feeling tired/achey), then walked 5+ minutes home. On that occasion, no problem. A few runs later (so likely a week later), I did the same thing but for about 100 metres (no problem, stopped when I thought was sensible to not over-do it), then walked 5+ minutes home.

Over 24 hours later, I've now picked up an injury for a second time that feels like I've pulled a muscle in my left buttock, and the last time this happened I had to refrain from walking say more than a mile, getting in and out of the car hurts, and I try to minimise going up and down the stairs and minimise the work that leg has to do. Last time this happened (injury in the same place), it took about six weeks to completely heal (though I hadn't realised how serious it was until I exacerbated the problem about a week later).

Should I consider this to be normal for my age?

The old joke springs to mind, "doctor, it hurts when I do X", "then don't do X", but the fact of the matter is that if I want to avoid plateauing when running then changing things up a bit is a good thing.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Onions and turmeric powder will help with the healing. As for the injuries, are you sure it's really an injury (the muscle pull)? I ask because magnesium deficiency may cause sudden involuntary painful muscle pulls. A good 200 to 300 mg Magnesium supplement (anything other than citrate or oxide form) will help a lot.

I wouldn't consider running a good form of exercise because it's aerobic and such exercises have been shown to age the body faster. Try doing squats instead. It will be harder in the beginning and it was certainly for me but now I can easily do 30 to 40 squats daily. It can actually be quite addictive as your legs may start hurting from the lactic acid buildup in the muscles but you feel this rush and want to do a few more.

P.S. I will soon be 42.

 

[mikeymikec]

I have osteoporosis, and mild impact exercises are meant to be good for encouraging the body to increase bone density (I'm on meds to help correct it too which seem to be working).

I'll look into magnesium, because I have Crohn's as well which can affect nutrition absorption.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Resistance exercise. Focus on hips and ankles, then move onto knees.

for that glute problems, it’s likely a weak muscle(s) for whatever reason and others are being strained picking up the load. You’ll definitely want to focus on all 3 glutes strength wise, with a good deal of massage and stretching too. Massage will help a ton, but will hurt like crazy at first. Sitting on a lacrosse ball is no fun


Programs to check out:

1. limber 11 - workout and warmup routine all in one. It will definitely be good for your hips

2. knee ability zero - created by same guy who does kneesovertoes. It’s a beginners thru advanced program.

3. Athlean x - tons of different exercises for parts of the body, I really dig the posture stuff and use that to counteract problems from too much tech time

4. Google anytime of exercise you can think of really.

Almost 42 here, not much running or jogging for me. Lots of Biking and I enjoy inline skating from time to time. Been on a long journey of self awareness and recovery, it's been real educational too see how my genetics and lifestyle were eff'ing me up. Only one of those things is really fixable, the other is just knowing how hard to push the parts of the body that are problematic.

 

[Muadib]

I used to jog, but then got a bone spur. Doc said to change shoe brands first as getting an operation is only 50% effective. That worked for me, but was done with jogging. A co worker told me to try cycling, as it did wonders for him. I took a friend with me to look for a bike, and we both settled on Trek bikes. I loved my bike, and rode 80-100 miles a week. I was hooked at first, but stopped after meeting a girl who is now my wife.

Many years later, I bought another Trek, around this time in 2020. Sadly I got old and fat, and no had no time to ride like I wanted. I did drop some weight, but summer is gone, and my will to ride will fade like the sun. I got a smart trainer so I can ride inside my house, but it's not the same. I plan to stick to it, but time will tell.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I have osteoporosis, and mild impact exercises are meant to be good for encouraging the body to increase bone density (I'm on meds to help correct it too which seem to be working).

You actually don't need meds for that. Just a good Vitamin D2+K2+Calcium supplement (GNC Calcimate is good) along with at least one large onion daily (fresh, not cooked. Eaten as soon as it is cut). Onions actually inhibit bone resorption which helps to build bone over time. Osteoporosis happens because there are two cells competing with one another in the bones. One type builds bone and the other destroys bone cells. Onions inhibit the action of the bone eating cells. Grapefruit also promotes healthy bone development.

Jumps from a certain height ( 3 to 4 feet ) also help to promote bone development, as the stress tells the body to bone up (much like stress on muscles tells them to bulk up). However, you want to start from 1 or 2 feet to avoid fractures in your current condition.

I hope you are not taking strontium ranelate in the meds coz it has some bad side effects.

 

[deadlyapp]

Ignore all the babble about supplements - supplements aren't going to help you. Ch33z has the right response - if you just jumped into running and you've got weakness in your other muscles, you're going to pull something.

You don't specify your warmup, and I wouldn't say that most people need to do any stretching or warmup for a light jog, but you may need to. High knees, zombie walks, toe and heel walks - might be necessary for you to warm up your posterior chain enough.

I'm only mid 30's and pretty in-shape from resistance training / HIIT / etc and could probably bust out a 5 mile run at a 9-10 min pace without too much trouble, despite not training for it. I'd focus on doing some additional strengthening work, make sure you've got good shoes, and just build up capacity.

 

[RPD]

I'm in my forties, I try to walk 2 miles every day (at lunch at work, weather permitting and Sundays in the morning), Saturdays I run 3miles. It usually isn't an age issue but what your body can handle issue. If you have been sedentary for a long time (think years or decades) and think you can just jump into any exercise, you'll discover your body won't be on board. You have to build up to it.

Take what you were doing before getting hurt and progressively doing more each week and re-evaluate.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Great video. So too much calcium is bad. Some vitamins help significantly.

 

[nakedfrog]

I've only just started adding some running this year, and that only because it's a faster way to get my heart rate where I want it to be. I'm 45 (as of today!) but I've also been doing increasingly longer hikes and elevation gains over the last couple years, and I mostly just run on some downhill bits of trail, like 1-3 minutes at a go, sometimes up to 5. So I'm inclined to agree with the other posters that this shouldn't necessarily be just because of your age, but rather other underlying factors that could be addressed.
The injury you describe sounds kinda like maybe sciatica pain, there are stretches you can do to help out with that. I experienced that in the past and did a few different stretches, now that it's not really been a problem so much I just do one of them every morning as possible prevention.

 

[mikeymikec]

I've only just started adding some running this year, and that only because it's a faster way to get my heart rate where I want it to be. I'm 45 (as of today!) but I've also been doing increasingly longer hikes and elevation gains over the last couple years, and I mostly just run on some downhill bits of trail, like 1-3 minutes at a go, sometimes up to 5. So I'm inclined to agree with the other posters that this shouldn't necessarily be just because of your age, but rather other underlying factors that could be addressed.
The injury you describe sounds kinda like maybe sciatica pain, there are stretches you can do to help out with that. I experienced that in the past and did a few different stretches, now that it's not really been a problem so much I just do one of them every morning as possible prevention.

Argh, I think you might be right. That shooting pain going down my leg seems pretty familiar, and the odd spasm has felt like numbness.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Great video. So too much calcium is bad. Some vitamins help significantly.

He is a douche that can't even adhere to the guidelines established for the witch doctor occupation he is a member of. https://quackwatch.org/cases/board/chiro/berg/

"i. The Body Restoration Technique (“BRT”), a procedure whereby vials of distilled water containing homeopathic imprints are held over certain designated body organs or parts while the practitioner applies tactile pressure through tapping or rubbing acupressure points, allegedly to assist in restoring hormone balance and to address other symptoms;

ii. Nambudripad’s Allergy Elimination Technique (“NAET”), a technique that uses pressure points in certain locations of the body allegedly to improve food allergies and environmental and chemical sensitivities;

iii. Contact Reflex Analysis (“CRA”), an alleged nutritional analysis that relies on muscle testing and acupuncture points; and

iv. Acoustic Cardiograph (” ACG”), an alleged nutritional evaluation based on heart sounds recorded and visualized on a graph."

My dude, stop listening to kooks, you are too intelligent for that nonsense.

Answering the OP: No I don't run. Not even if someone or something attempted to chase me. Too many ways to get cardio and conditioning that I find much more enjoyable than running.

 

[igor_kavinski]

My dude, stop listening to kooks, you are too intelligent for that nonsense.

You think too highly of me. I'm mostly confused and certainly not as intelligent as you But I haven't seen this "doc's" other videos so yeah maybe I would have gotten skeptical too.

Too many ways to get cardio and conditioning that I find much more enjoyable than running.

What other ways, if you don't mind revealing them?

 

[WelshBloke]

Cycling, swimming, yoga(seriously) are all your exercise friends when you get older.
My wife is a bit of a fitness freak and over 50, those are her exercises of choice now.
I just stick to the cycling.
Any impact stuff seems to do more harm than good.

Admittedly all those options are more difficult to do depending on where you live, I'm lucky in that I can cycle for hours and not really see any traffic.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I have always wanted to feel like what it is to swim. I'm too afraid to drown and I think I don't have enough stamina. Plus, my unfit hairy body is not something I want the world to see

Maybe some day when I have my own pool, surrounded by walls as high as can be...

 

[WelshBloke]

I have always wanted to feel like what it is to swim. I'm too afraid to drown and I think I don't have enough stamina. Plus, my unfit hairy body is not something I want the world to see

Maybe some day when I have my own pool, surrounded by walls as high as can be...

Meh, no ones looking at you in a public pool! Plus if you are a bit on the chubby side you'll float better!

 

[WelshBloke]

Cycling, swimming, yoga(seriously) are all your exercise friends when you get older.
My wife is a bit of a fitness freak and over 50, those are her exercises of choice now.
I just stick to the cycling.
Any impact stuff seems to do more harm than good.

Admittedly all those options are more difficult to do depending on where you live, I'm lucky in that I can cycle for hours and not really see any traffic.

Wife says I can share this to show what a bit of yoga and cycling can do when you're over 50!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

What other ways, if you don't mind revealing them?

First, I am a self admitted dull knife on the rack. I have TBI as well. Which is exacerbating cognitive issues as I age. I assure you, anything I can grasp, you will grasp better. I do still have a keen sense of skepticism and cynicism though. You are probably considerably younger and more trusting is all. I am a tough sell, and as the saying goes -Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

As to cardio. Mine include

Sparring

Heavy bag work

Hitting and holding the pads (requires a partner, or investment in equipment that provides some of the same benefits)

VR boxing. I can't compliment Thrill of the Fight enough for how much it will do for your cardio. You are fighting standard 3 minutes rounds with one minute rest. Put it on the highest difficulty and you have to maintain a crazy work rate to keep from getting KTFO. The training equipment is really good considering you are punching the air. The speed bag and focus ball are particularly good. The heavy bag is the worst. Not for what you can do, but the huge energy requirements of a real heavy bag can't be substituted for. I can go a long time on it in VR. Much longer than the real one, as it will drain you from fighting its real mass.

Karate, both Japanese and Okinawan.

I haven't been doing any catch wrestling or other grappling recently. I will however, tell you now, any form of wrestling will make you are cardio beast per force.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Wife says I can share this to show what a bit of yoga and cycling can do when you're over 50!
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Congrats on winning the today's internetz.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I haven't been doing any catch wrestling or other grappling recently. I will however, tell you now, any form of wrestling will make you are cardio beast per force.

I'm starting to imagine you as the stuntman for Stallone

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I'm starting to imagine you as the stuntman for Stallone

I am Drago's height, Sly is a shorty. BTW, Dolph Lundgren is a Kyokushin Black Belt, just like GSP. He was one of my role models. Then he played the Punisher, and I was ready to start a fan club.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I may suffer from some bit of TBI too. I can be so oblivious to my surroundings that about 14 years ago, I followed a car when trying to cross a street. Suddenly, there was a thud on my head. And one more. Then I heard a Filipino girl scream several feet away. Somehow, I walked away from that, rubbing my head. The sound of thud was from the mechanical barrier rod at the entrance security post of an underground parking space. The rod bounced off my head and hit me a second time. I really should thank God everyday for my thick skull and for not having my brains splattered that day all over the street.

 

[nakedfrog]

"i. The Body Restoration Technique (“BRT”), a procedure whereby vials of distilled water containing homeopathic imprints are held over certain designated body organs or parts while the practitioner applies tactile pressure through tapping or rubbing acupressure points, allegedly to assist in restoring hormone balance and to address other symptoms;

Wow, that's some high-grade snake oil right there.

What other ways, if you don't mind revealing them?

For me, it's far and away hiking, but you need elevation gain to really get the heart rate up, so not readily available for everyone.

 

[igor_kavinski]

For me, it's far and away hiking, but you need elevation gain to really get the heart rate up, so not readily available for everyone.

I can just barely make it up to the 17th floor to get to my flat via the stairs. But I lose the fresh air that way. The nice thing about it the last time I did that was, after resting for 10 to 15 minutes, I didn't feel any more fatigue.

 

[A///]

Yes. I began a few months ago. On one such outing I stopped by at a Starbucks to get a plain iced drink. The guy around my age was staring at my arm for a while before I asked what his deal was. Told me I should have a small mole on my forearm checked out. I brushed it off initially but brought it up with my doctor. A few weeks later and it was determined to be precancerous and scooped out.

Here's to going out for a jog and having a gold bar fall to my feet.