any laws on the topic? I was sent the wrong item from a business via mail, do I have to ship it back?

[theblackbox]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

You don't make any money if you are ethical in business. Everyone cheats, everyone lies, that is how business world works.

As a very successful and now retired business owner I must say: This is complete and utter bullshit.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I guess not and i am about to get finance degree...this is the new generation of business people.

Crap. You can take what you learned in college from the socialist, anti-capitalist professors, put it in one hand, shit in the other hand and see which is worth more. I know, I have an MBA myself. Most worthless time I ever wasted, but it did open my eyes to a few things.

I can tell you this: In the last 18 years I was in business, shifty business owners always did worse than ones who were ethical.

Why? Trust. You lose the trust of your employees, customers and suppliers, you may as well just pull out because you'll NEVER grow.

So tell me, school boy. WTF makes you think you know a god damned thing about the business world if you've never even owned a business???

The fact that i can keep straight face while lying through my teeth. If you always honest, it takes way to long to get where you want to go. Easiest path is a direct line.

proof in the pudding, college kid that has no idea whay the real world is like. the good thing about dishonest finance majors is there are always companies like enron that need you.
but, after you fail miserably at life, you'll probably end up back in school, where the bubble of security will keep you comfy and warm and help foster your idiotic beliefs.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

You don't make any money if you are ethical in business. Everyone cheats, everyone lies, that is how business world works.

As a very successful and now retired business owner I must say: This is complete and utter bullshit.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I guess not and i am about to get finance degree...this is the new generation of business people.

plenty of unsuccessful people have degrees. You will fit in well.

Do yourself a favor, and work on your English skills (your success depends on it)

Oh; and great time to be in finance, dumbass

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

You don't make any money if you are ethical in business. Everyone cheats, everyone lies, that is how business world works.

As a very successful and now retired business owner I must say: This is complete and utter bullshit.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I guess not and i am about to get finance degree...this is the new generation of business people.

Crap. You can take what you learned in college from the socialist, anti-capitalist professors, put it in one hand, shit in the other hand and see which is worth more. I know, I have an MBA myself. Most worthless time I ever wasted, but it did open my eyes to a few things.

I can tell you this: In the last 18 years I was in business, shifty business owners always did worse than ones who were ethical.

Why? Trust. You lose the trust of your employees, customers and suppliers, you may as well just pull out because you'll NEVER grow.

So tell me, school boy. WTF makes you think you know a god damned thing about the business world if you've never even owned a business???

The fact that i can keep straight face while lying through my teeth. If you always honest, it takes way to long to get where you want to go. Easiest path is a direct line.

Where exactly does one put that on the resume'?

And you guys called me cynical for my view on Corporate Criminals.... Here's one still wet behind the ears, already planning on fleecing his "clients".
With any luck, he'll be fast tracked at The Fed, and he can suck from the Big Tit and he'll become lazy and bloated and will forget about ripping off little old ladies individually.

I love the mods at ATOT, What with their uncanny ability to run background checks on members' info, expose them to a wider contact base, their unethical, immoral, and hilariously impractical methods of skullduggery. practically insure, if necessary, that the hiring public catches wind of such duplicitous, corrupt, and woefully uneducated individuals. Those that would be perfectly willing to crumble the very foundations of our financial core all over again, as if such clearly destructive understanding of business were not so blatantly proven over the previous year.

yeah, them AT mods are great....sure are....

hm, hmmm.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

You don't make any money if you are ethical in business. Everyone cheats, everyone lies, that is how business world works.

As a very successful and now retired business owner I must say: This is complete and utter bullshit.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I guess not and i am about to get finance degree...this is the new generation of business people.

Crap. You can take what you learned in college from the socialist, anti-capitalist professors, put it in one hand, shit in the other hand and see which is worth more. I know, I have an MBA myself. Most worthless time I ever wasted, but it did open my eyes to a few things.

I can tell you this: In the last 18 years I was in business, shifty business owners always did worse than ones who were ethical.

Why? Trust. You lose the trust of your employees, customers and suppliers, you may as well just pull out because you'll NEVER grow.

So tell me, school boy. WTF makes you think you know a god damned thing about the business world if you've never even owned a business???

The fact that i can keep straight face while lying through my teeth. If you always honest, it takes way to long to get where you want to go. Easiest path is a direct line.

You've got to be kidding me. Being a good liar will make your career move fast right up until someone catches on to you. Then it evaporates faster than you can blink. The only way to reach the top and stay there is to build a mountain of reliability, integrity, competence, and honesty underneath you. Whatever you do to make money, you get to keep doing it because someone trusts you to do it. Remember that.

I think this simpleton saw that terrible flick "Boiler Room" and understood it to be a factual account of success in business. He probably missed the 3rd act, too, b/c he was "spent" after an hour of Vin Diesel.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

You don't make any money if you are ethical in business. Everyone cheats, everyone lies, that is how business world works.

As a very successful and now retired business owner I must say: This is complete and utter bullshit.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I guess not and i am about to get finance degree...this is the new generation of business people.

Crap. You can take what you learned in college from the socialist, anti-capitalist professors, put it in one hand, shit in the other hand and see which is worth more. I know, I have an MBA myself. Most worthless time I ever wasted, but it did open my eyes to a few things.

I can tell you this: In the last 18 years I was in business, shifty business owners always did worse than ones who were ethical.

Why? Trust. You lose the trust of your employees, customers and suppliers, you may as well just pull out because you'll NEVER grow.

So tell me, school boy. WTF makes you think you know a god damned thing about the business world if you've never even owned a business???

The fact that i can keep straight face while lying through my teeth. If you always honest, it takes way to long to get where you want to go. Easiest path is a direct line.

proof in the pudding, college kid that has no idea whay the real world is like. the good thing about dishonest finance majors is there are always companies like enron that need you.
but, after you fail miserably at life, you'll probably end up back in school, where the bubble of security will keep you comfy and warm and help foster your idiotic beliefs.

As far as he understands, the real world involves beer bongs and elephant trains, lying to other frat douches that you weren't taking ganders at their packages in the boy's shower room.

 

[zinfamous]

lulz, here's our pal looker001 with some juicy comments in this thread:

Why do colleges hand out so many degrees?

2.0 gpa is passing, plus you don't learn much when you graduate. Getting degree is a game, it basically says that you can learn.

edit: Personally have 2.95 gpa in finance and i haven't study much so gpa do not really mean anything.

over here: Teen turns in $10,000 he found in store

I would keep it, no question about it. I go by finder/keeper.

honestly..I'm shocked He can't find a job!!!!

So who is here graduating from university this semester? Are you able to find a job or is the market totally dead for you?

I am getting degree in finance and no one opening are available, anyone else in same position?

I mean...such a smart guy: 2.95 GPA in finance, scattered use of prepositions and fleeting conjugation, going into a desperate self-destructing field...clearly the economy needs more honest winners like this, no?

EDIT: Jury duty fail Thanks Like Linus

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: looker001

You don't make any money if you are ethical in business. Everyone cheats, everyone lies, that is how business world works.

As a very successful and now retired business owner I must say: This is complete and utter bullshit.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I guess not and i am about to get finance degree...this is the new generation of business people.

Crap. You can take what you learned in college from the socialist, anti-capitalist professors, put it in one hand, shit in the other hand and see which is worth more. I know, I have an MBA myself. Most worthless time I ever wasted, but it did open my eyes to a few things.

I can tell you this: In the last 18 years I was in business, shifty business owners always did worse than ones who were ethical.

Why? Trust. You lose the trust of your employees, customers and suppliers, you may as well just pull out because you'll NEVER grow.

So tell me, school boy. WTF makes you think you know a god damned thing about the business world if you've never even owned a business???

The fact that i can keep straight face while lying through my teeth. If you always honest, it takes way to long to get where you want to go. Easiest path is a direct line.

Such a lost puppy. I guess you will find out the hard way that cheaters never win.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: looker001
The fact that i can keep straight face while lying through my teeth. If you always honest, it takes way to long to get where you want to go. Easiest path is a direct line.

You're a fucked up idiot, and I doubt you're going to have any success at all with the attitude you have.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: looker001


You don't make any money if you are ethical in business. Everyone cheats, everyone lies, that is how business world works. .

wrong.

i had a decently succefull business in computers and i was ethical. i Also owned parts of a few used car dealerships with my father.


My father and Grandfather owned a chain of used car dealerships. Both men were some of the most ethical men i have known. they also ran there business like that.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Ok interesting twist... I just called the CSR of this company and he said they've refunded the price I paid on the 32" and reinforced that they want the 46" back.

He even went so far as to say if I keep the 46" that I'm stealing!

I laughed at him and hung up.

What should I do? Keep the money... and the 46" LCD... man how stupid can this company be.

If you want to learn the hard way, keep the TV and the money. If you wan't to do things the right way and avoid prison, then send the TV back and then purchase the original TV you intended to.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Ok interesting twist... I just called the CSR of this company and he said they've refunded the price I paid on the 32" and reinforced that they want the 46" back.

He even went so far as to say if I keep the 46" that I'm stealing!

I laughed at him and hung up.

What should I do? Keep the money... and the 46" LCD... man how stupid can this company be.

If you want to learn the hard way, keep the TV and the money. If you wan't to do things the right way and avoid prison, then send the TV back and then purchase the original TV you intended to.

Prison? he will not be going to any prison.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Ok interesting twist... I just called the CSR of this company and he said they've refunded the price I paid on the 32" and reinforced that they want the 46" back.

He even went so far as to say if I keep the 46" that I'm stealing!

I laughed at him and hung up.

What should I do? Keep the money... and the 46" LCD... man how stupid can this company be.

Unjust Enrichment. Theft. Collection agency.

Next thread in three months from RIGorous1: "Collection agency keeps calling me but I don't owe them anything! Now my employer says my wages are going to be garnished!"

You want to be a thief? Go ahead, it'll catch up to you.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

How can the OP be faulted for that? How else could he have known that they shipped him the wrong TV?
Obviously he couldn't tell by the size of the box that it was bigger than he ordered...or by the writing on the box...hell, anyone could make the mistake of thinking that "46 inch" was the same as "32 inch."

Hmmm, should the company try to charge the OP the difference between unopened price and what they could sell the "open box" set for?

Since he's been such a douchebag all along, it'd seem fair to me...

To be fair, my girlfriend keeps telling me that 2 inches is just as good as 12 inches...

:evil:

Oh wait, that's actually just my imagination and my inflatable doll...

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: GoSharks

Originally posted by: sjwaste
You'll be hard pressed to find any law that allows you to keep it.

Does this apply?
http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/merch.htm

If you do not wish to pay for unsolicited merchandise or make a donation to a charity sending such an item, you may do one of three things (in each case, by law, you have no obligation to the sender):

* If you have not opened the package, you may mark it "Return to Sender," and the Postal Service will return it with no additional postage charged to you.

* If you open the package and don't like what you find, you may throw it away.

* If you open the package and like what you find, you may keep it for free. In this instance, "finders-keepers" applies unconditionally.

This does not apply at all, it was not unsolicited merchandise, it was a good faith error by the sender for solicited merchandise. The actual CA law that applies was already posted in the thread.

 

[bsobel]

Right the op consented to the TV he ordered he didn't consent to the TV that was mailed.

a) Start editing your quotes.
b) §205. DUTY OF GOOD FAITH AND FAIR DEALING applies, I suggest you read it.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Ok interesting twist... I just called the CSR of this company and he said they've refunded the price I paid on the 32" and reinforced that they want the 46" back.

He even went so far as to say if I keep the 46" that I'm stealing!

I laughed at him and hung up.

What should I do? Keep the money... and the 46" LCD... man how stupid can this company be.

If you want to learn the hard way, keep the TV and the money. If you wan't to do things the right way and avoid prison, then send the TV back and then purchase the original TV you intended to.

Prison? he will not be going to any prison.

while possible it is highly doubtfull he will.

but what will happen if he keps is he will ruin his credit, get sued, wages garnished and be out a LOT of money in the long run.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I hope this is a parody thread. I find it hard to believe that someone could be that stupid. Even by ATOT standards this is raising the bar.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Ok interesting twist... I just called the CSR of this company and he said they've refunded the price I paid on the 32" and reinforced that they want the 46" back.

He even went so far as to say if I keep the 46" that I'm stealing!

I laughed at him and hung up.

What should I do? Keep the money... and the 46" LCD... man how stupid can this company be.

If you want to learn the hard way, keep the TV and the money. If you wan't to do things the right way and avoid prison, then send the TV back and then purchase the original TV you intended to.

Prison? he will not be going to any prison.

but... but... you've already promised him conjugal visits. :evil:

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
I hope this is a parody thread. I find it hard to believe that someone could be that stupid. Even by ATOT standards this is raising the bar.

Even if it is a paradoy thread, the half a dozen or so perps that showed up to defend/encourage have made interesting reading.

It would be interesting to track down their heatware and ebay ratings to see if they are as stupid in real life.

However, there are a couple that would seem to be. When they hit the real world, they are in for a shock.

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
I hope this is a parody thread. I find it hard to believe that someone could be that stupid. Even by ATOT standards this is raising the bar.

Even if it is a paradoy thread, the half a dozen or so perps that showed up to defend/encourage have made interesting reading.

It would be interesting to track down their heatware and ebay ratings to see if they are as stupid in real life.

However, there are a couple that would seem to be. When they hit the real world, they are in for a shock.

I have trouble even understanding the mentality of them. How can someones world view be so narrow? How do you survive without any personal pride what so ever? I can't even write them off as simply being stupid, because some of them seem to have made it through collage, which does require at least some intelligence.

 

[rudeguy]

My thoughts are that there are some people who honestly can't see that their actions affect the rest of the world. They only look at the immediate consequences and aren't able to look at the big picture. Its probably a product of the Nanny State world we are living in. No need for personal responsibility or accountability. Just do what's good for you and let someone else deal with the rest of the world.

 

[BoomerD]

I hope I remember this thread should I ever want to do business with other ATOT'ers in the "For Sale forum."

There are several people here that I would NOT do any kind of business with...they have shown their character. (or lack thereof)

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Steve
Repackage it? Why did you open it? It said 46" on the box, and even if it didn't it was way too big a box for a 32".


Do the right thing and send it back. Or else pay for it in full.

Bah... he probably already resold it on eBay

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob

Originally posted by: Steve
Repackage it? Why did you open it? It said 46" on the box, and even if it didn't it was way too big a box for a 32".


Do the right thing and send it back. Or else pay for it in full.

Bah... he probably already resold it on eBay

Maybe he got a 32"and packed it in a 46" box prior to shipping it out.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
I hope this is a parody thread. I find it hard to believe that someone could be that stupid. Even by ATOT standards this is raising the bar.

Even if it is a paradoy thread, the half a dozen or so perps that showed up to defend/encourage have made interesting reading.

It would be interesting to track down their heatware and ebay ratings to see if they are as stupid in real life.

However, there are a couple that would seem to be. When they hit the real world, they are in for a shock.

I did some late-night research on one such individual and posted a few posts up. seems pretty consistent:

Originally posted by: zinfamous
lulz, here's our pal looker001 with some juicy comments in this thread:

Why do colleges hand out so many degrees?

2.0 gpa is passing, plus you don't learn much when you graduate. Getting degree is a game, it basically says that you can learn.

edit: Personally have 2.95 gpa in finance and i haven't study much so gpa do not really mean anything.

over here: Teen turns in $10,000 he found in store

I would keep it, no question about it. I go by finder/keeper.

honestly..I'm shocked He can't find a job!!!!

So who is here graduating from university this semester? Are you able to find a job or is the market totally dead for you?

I am getting degree in finance and no one opening are available, anyone else in same position?

I mean...such a smart guy: 2.95 GPA in finance, scattered use of prepositions and fleeting conjugation, going into a desperate self-destructing field...clearly the economy needs more honest winners like this, no?

EDIT: Jury duty fail Thanks Like Linus