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You and Moonbeam need to have a sit down. All about that self hate.

I don't particularly like most of his posts, I don't often even read them. I also do not have any self hate. I am very happy with myself and my life. But thanks?

You are, to be clear, not good at making your "point" based on this text.

And leaving power dynamics out of discussions about racism is also not good.

Maybe, let me try to be more clear. The point I was making was that some words are racist no matter what. No matter the context, no matter who says them, not matter who they are said against. Some others are not. It depends on the context. Some have more than one meaning, that can be totally different. I did not discuss every single aspect about racism. I pointed out the hypocrisy of that particular incident. The sort of thinking that some racism or bigotry is ok, but another is not, is not good. "Do as I say, not as I do", is their mantra around here for many people. Its allowed and even accepted, as long as its a certain way. This has been proven time and time again. An example, there have been plenty of black people called bigoted names, but other black people. Simple because they stray from what black people are "supposed to support", aka Democrats. Just like in the video I linked to, a black person was upset that a cop was black. Supposed to be on "their side", and if not hes a race traitor. A common term used. Thats an ignorant and shortsighted way of thinking. Tow the line, or carry the water is a popular term around here. Most often used wrong. She was upset because he wasn't doing that, he strayed from what she thought was the right think for a black person to do.

Not necessarily addressed to you, but that is getting off topic. So in an attempt at getting it back on topic, there are plenty of antifa "scum". A lot of acts of violence and even terrorism. Using bats over the heads of defenseless people, inflicting bad injuries just recently. Pushing and kicking people on the ground. Even arguing with BLM members and assaulting them (punching in the face) when they were there to protest the same event, the same things. That is just idiotic. I do not believe that most antifa are violence people, I do believe there are those on the fringe that make them all look bad. Wearing a mask to conceal their face, adds empowerment and they think they can get away with anything. This leads to more acts of violence. When the truth is, they're just being cowards. Just like when the kkk does it. The fact that some people here are ok with their acts of blatant violence, because it is against people they think deserve it, is very troubling. It shows that they don't really care about having values and laws, they like vigilante justice, as long as their team is doing it. That's hypocrisy, but also not uncommon around here. Very similar to people who are ok with rapists getting raped in prison, or other such acts. Because they "deserve it" they will look the other way. A terrorist group is defined as, "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives". Clearly that is part of what they do. Some members of them act exactly in that accord.

The article that the antifa is a gift to the right is spot on in my opinion. There is plenty to protest and be upset about with the kkk and white nationalist. To me it is unbelievable in this time and age that people can think that like. That they can be so ignorant and full of hate, over skin color. That they can believe people are better, just because of their skin or heritage. It makes me sick, and honestly embarrassed that there are people who actually think like that. People who act on that. There is a different way to do things though. Protesting legally, holding to your beliefs while not sinking to their level is a better way to combat the problem, not adding fuel to the fire. Because instead of pointing the finger at them, calling it like it is, being the better person/group, now part of the blame is on them. Both sides are at fault for the violence. People may not like to hear it, but its the truth. That does not mean the woman deserved to be ran over with a car, clearly she did not. That guy needs to never be free again. When two sides come to an event, with the intent to provoke, bringing weapons and preparing for a violence, things will happen. It always does. It always will.

So yeah, there are plenty of antifa scum. Plenty of kkk/white nationalist scum. There are sites for antifa who actually call for more violence in these protests. This is not the way for things to get better, and it looks like its going to get worse first. All the while, antifa and people who support them (plenty here) who think they are the righteous ones, when in reality they are doing exactly what they claim to be fighting against.
 
The crazy train is running full steam ahead.

Pretending that being "Anti-Nazi" is some radical, brave stance, is like pretending it's some big deal to be anti-child molester or "anti cute puppy killer".

It's just the "No fucking duh, big fucking whoop, who the hell really isn't besides a fringe group of assholes?" default position of MOST decent people.

But it is entertaining to see leftists have a new boogyman under their beds! Nazis are gonna getcha!! OH NO THEY'RE EVERWHERE!! SCREEECH!!! Run and hide! Run and hide! 😀
You are reading some other thread. This one has none of this shit.
 
I don't particularly like most of his posts, I don't often even read them. I also do not have any self hate. I am very happy with myself and my life. But thanks?



Maybe, let me try to be more clear. The point I was making was that some words are racist no matter what. No matter the context, no matter who says them, not matter who they are said against. Some others are not. It depends on the context. Some have more than one meaning, that can be totally different. I did not discuss every single aspect about racism. I pointed out the hypocrisy of that particular incident. The sort of thinking that some racism or bigotry is ok, but another is not, is not good. "Do as I say, not as I do", is their mantra around here for many people. Its allowed and even accepted, as long as its a certain way. This has been proven time and time again. An example, there have been plenty of black people called bigoted names, but other black people. Simple because they stray from what black people are "supposed to support", aka Democrats. Just like in the video I linked to, a black person was upset that a cop was black. Supposed to be on "their side", and if not hes a race traitor. A common term used. Thats an ignorant and shortsighted way of thinking. Tow the line, or carry the water is a popular term around here. Most often used wrong. She was upset because he wasn't doing that, he strayed from what she thought was the right think for a black person to do.

Not necessarily addressed to you, but that is getting off topic. So in an attempt at getting it back on topic, there are plenty of antifa "scum". A lot of acts of violence and even terrorism. Using bats over the heads of defenseless people, inflicting bad injuries just recently. Pushing and kicking people on the ground. Even arguing with BLM members and assaulting them (punching in the face) when they were there to protest the same event, the same things. That is just idiotic. I do not believe that most antifa are violence people, I do believe there are those on the fringe that make them all look bad. Wearing a mask to conceal their face, adds empowerment and they think they can get away with anything. This leads to more acts of violence. When the truth is, they're just being cowards. Just like when the kkk does it. The fact that some people here are ok with their acts of blatant violence, because it is against people they think deserve it, is very troubling. It shows that they don't really care about having values and laws, they like vigilante justice, as long as their team is doing it. That's hypocrisy, but also not uncommon around here. Very similar to people who are ok with rapists getting raped in prison, or other such acts. Because they "deserve it" they will look the other way. A terrorist group is defined as, "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives". Clearly that is part of what they do. Some members of them act exactly in that accord.

The article that the antifa is a gift to the right is spot on in my opinion. There is plenty to protest and be upset about with the kkk and white nationalist. To me it is unbelievable in this time and age that people can think that like. That they can be so ignorant and full of hate, over skin color. That they can believe people are better, just because of their skin or heritage. It makes me sick, and honestly embarrassed that there are people who actually think like that. People who act on that. There is a different way to do things though. Protesting legally, holding to your beliefs while not sinking to their level is a better way to combat the problem, not adding fuel to the fire. Because instead of pointing the finger at them, calling it like it is, being the better person/group, now part of the blame is on them. Both sides are at fault for the violence. People may not like to hear it, but its the truth. That does not mean the woman deserved to be ran over with a car, clearly she did not. That guy needs to never be free again. When two sides come to an event, with the intent to provoke, bringing weapons and preparing for a violence, things will happen. It always does. It always will.

So yeah, there are plenty of antifa scum. Plenty of kkk/white nationalist scum. There are sites for antifa who actually call for more violence in these protests. This is not the way for things to get better, and it looks like its going to get worse first. All the while, antifa and people who support them (plenty here) who think they are the righteous ones, when in reality they are doing exactly what they claim to be fighting against.

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That's a long way to go to explain that you lean on binary thinking.

Complexity is not a vice. It happens to be reality.

It's basically trump's BothSides narrative using a lot more words, which of course conservatives all love no matter how much they pretend they don't want to get any trump on themselves now that he's politically unpopular.
 
Yes and both neo-nazists and antifa fit that description well. Like I said before, the only big difference between them is that antifa is also hypocritical and have the support of the mainstream media which makes them a bigger threat currently.

Gas chambers, folks tossed in ovens, medical experimentation on children, torture, rape, murder, WW II. Yes, antifa is the devil.
 
Hasn't she been locked up yet? Her and that Kenyan who is running the underground resistance in concert with antifa need to be locked up for life. Crooked, so damn crooked!

The witch and bummer obviously behind that car terrorist attack. FBI needs to get on that like when kenya was spying on dear leader.
 
Ah, the good ol' classic whataboutism. Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.

Antifa were there to protest and fight if necessary swastika wearing nazis who drive vehicles into people they don't care for. Easy to see which side american conservatives take, same as they wish they could for the civil war.
 
Ah, the good ol' classic whataboutism. Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.

Waves at the waterboy.

Hey, waterboy. What does "Jews will not replace us" mean and why were all those nice young fellows chanting the phrase during their lovely little tiki parades? Oh yeah, and what's up with that "blood and soil" thing? Seems kinda yucky.
 
I can't believe you're that dumb to equate bigotry with racism which is just one of the many types of bigotry. You can try playing dumb, but any reasonably smart individual will see right through your shenanigans. And anyways, I would bet my life that some of the antifa memberse are racists too.

Like I said, I'm OK with bigotry against Nazis & White Supremacists. They earned it when they took up the ideologies of murderous hatred. That's their history & the heritage they claim today.
 
Like I said, I'm OK with bigotry against Nazis & White Supremacists. They earned it when they took up the ideologies of murderous hatred. That's their history & the heritage they claim today.

But what if nazis and the klan are victims of the 1%.
 
Repub politicians, the well financed lackeys of the ultra right mega rich, exploit peoples fears & prejudices to serve the ends of unfathomable greed & lust for power with a variety of wedge issues. Race is only one of them. I figure anybody who's not rich who votes Republican is being manipulated, often in more ways than one.
 
Repub politicians, the well financed lackeys of the ultra right mega rich, exploit peoples fears & prejudices to serve the ends of unfathomable greed & lust for power with a variety of wedge issues. Race is only one of them. I figure anybody who's not rich who votes Republican is being manipulated, often in more ways than one.

Historians need to be informed that colonial chattel slavery and apartheid/segregation were just tricks of mega-rich comic book villains.
 
You are reading some other thread. This one has none of this shit.

He shows up every now and then near the end of a thread to throw down a huge straw man and attack the shit out of it. Once you see him thumping his chest and declaring victory you know they good times have come to an end. Far easier to build and attack a straw man than to address the topic.
 
Historians need to be informed that colonial chattel slavery and apartheid/segregation were just tricks of mega-rich comic book villains.

Nice deflection. When you defend the greed & power of the far right mega rich you defend what you call the caste system of America & the methods they use to perpetuate it.

Lyndon Johnson was right about too many people when he said this-

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

It's just one aspect of their divide & conquer strategy.
 
Nice deflection. When you defend the greed & power of the far right mega rich you defend what you call the caste system of America & the methods they use to perpetuate it.

Lyndon Johnson was right about too many people when he said this-

It's just one aspect of their divide & conquer strategy.

Those who got higher caste status were so very dumb to accept less competition and a better resulting life.
 
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