Anti-Obesity Ad

[mikeford]

Needs a hot fudge sundae to eat while watching.

 

[Mai72]

I have an 11 year old nephew who's about 5'1" and weighs 200 lbs. His father weighed 500 lbs until he had gastric bypass surgery about six years ago (now he just has tons of loose skin). I get so angry with my sister over this, but the mere mention that they need to do something gets her defensive. His school called them when he was in second grade concerned about how heavy he was getting and she just flew into a rage. All the kid does is sit in front of the computer playing Gary's Mod or has the XBOX controller in his hands. He doesn't ride a bike, he rarely plays outside and the one time recently when he was out and it was getting close to dusk my sister freaked out. She's absolutely terrified for him to go out and do all the things we did as kids because "The world is so dangerous now!". I'd send her that PSA, but it would just cause a big family row. Really, letting a child get in a condition like that is just child abuse IMO.

It sounds like your sister might have anxiety issues.

She should do therapy because it's only going to progress and get worse.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

If you're fat, and it's not due to a legitimate medical condition (let's define "legitimate" as having been diagnosed by an actual doctor to your face in said doctor's office), you should feel ashamed of treating yourself so badly. Then you should act is such a way that the shame is lessened, namely cleaning up your diet and lifestyle. If psychological crap is a cause, then fix that too.

No then I get every single overweight female in their 20-30s coming in and demanding a complex endocrine workup because they read on oprah/dr oz/google/whatever that they have adrenal fatigue or hypothyroidism and thats why they can't stop eating and feel tired all the time.

 

[dabuddha]

The ad is fine. The fat fucks/PC pussies need to stfu about it. So tired of everyone's "feelings" being protected all the time.

 

[justoh]

That ad will just make people hungry. Backfired.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I have an 11 year old nephew who's about 5'1" and weighs 200 lbs. His father weighed 500 lbs until he had gastric bypass surgery about six years ago (now he just has tons of loose skin). I get so angry with my sister over this, but the mere mention that they need to do something gets her defensive. His school called them when he was in second grade concerned about how heavy he was getting and she just flew into a rage. All the kid does is sit in front of the computer playing Gary's Mod or has the XBOX controller in his hands. He doesn't ride a bike, he rarely plays outside and the one time recently when he was out and it was getting close to dusk my sister freaked out. She's absolutely terrified for him to go out and do all the things we did as kids because "The world is so dangerous now!". I'd send her that PSA, but it would just cause a big family row. Really, letting a child get in a condition like that is just child abuse IMO.

I don't know their specific situation but I do know the science and when I see "500 lbs" I don't respond with "fat people suck. if they dont want me making fun of them, lose some weight". It's almost impossible for someone with normal metabolism to gain that much. There's a physical pathology that's the root cause and everyone here would be in the same boat despite their supposed moral superiority. Unfortunately the enlightened ignorant of AT and their ilk (I love that word) won't surrender their ignorance any faster than a 50's racist will stop believing that blacks are inherently inferior, which they could of course "prove". There's definately a maladaptive behavior on the part of your sister though. She's responding to inappropriate negative social pressure by ignoring the fact that this is a medical issue which needs to be dealt with by professionals. That there is a predisposition to obesity needs to be met like any other challenge, and that's with appropriate treatment of the condition by those with the required expertise. Defensive behavior is very hard to undo, and with the attitudes displayed by the chronic ignorant, it's harder still. I'm afraid the kid is likely screwed at on a whole lot of levels, but what's needed is professional care, not "shaming" which will NEVER work.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

It's almost impossible for someone with normal metabolism to gain that much. .

This is a complete and total lie. There is nothing stopping you from gaining that much weigh if you non stop eat.

 

[gorcorps]

I could go for a cheeseburger right about now

 

[chitwood]

 

[nehalem256]

This is a complete and total lie. There is nothing stopping you from gaining that much weigh if you non stop eat.

Well sure if you want to eat 10,000 calories a day I am sure you could do it.

But I doubt most people could eat that much without getting sick.

For comparison that is around 12 2-liter bottles of Pepsi per day. Drink up!

 

[PricklyPete]

Well sure if you want to eat 10,000 calories a day I am sure you could do it.



But I doubt most people could eat that much without getting sick.



For comparison that is around 12 2-liter bottles of Pepsi per day. Drink up!

You are kidding right? Watch any fat person documentary and they all eat 10,000 calories a day. Often, a lot if it is in Big Gulps.

 

[justoh]

You are kidding right? Watch any fat person documentary and they all eat 10,000 calories a day. Often, a lot if it is in Big Gulps.

That's disgusting. If you're going to drink calories, at least do it with alcohol.

 

[Fritzo]

I don't think it qualifies as shaming. It is a pretty brutal wake up call though...which is probably needed at this point.

I don't think it's shaming either. People are fat because food companies know how to manipulate our minds to crave things we shouldn't be eating on a regular basis. Everything is "FLAVOR BLASTED!" and "ULTRA-CHEESY!" and "BACON STEAK AND CHEESE FLAVORED!". Poor quality food is so accessible and so affordable that people are using it as their main nutrition source, and that leads to a shorter life.

I'm big on nutrition and fitness, and you'd be surprised at how little it takes to stay fit and maintain a healthy weight. I myself stay under 300 calories of high protein food/shakes for breakfast, eat whatever I want for lunch, and then dinner consists of a protein and vegetable. I avoid starches anywhere I can.

You can get decent muscle tone by doing simple pushups in the morning. Start with inclined pushups against your sink while the shower is heating up, do as many as you can, and then try to add 5 more to it next week. Start mixing in standard pushups after that. It's less than 10 minutes of work and it exercises nearly every muscle in the body.

This is all I'm doing, and I'm 44 with a 34" waist. My co-workers are around the same age and some of them are pushing size 46 pants, and that's sad because some of them are already starting on that slippery slope of heart medications.

If any of you are in this boat, feel free to PM me for support. You can be fixed

You are kidding right? Watch any fat person documentary and they all eat 10,000 calories a day. Often, a lot if it is in Big Gulps.

Drinking calories is the #1 source of weight gain, and it's part of sugar addiction. A lot of people are down on artificial sweeteners, so a good way to cut down here is to start drinking water with fruit slices in it, or drink 1/4 fruit juice and 3/4 water. I myself am addicted to Diet Pepsi, but it's not adding to my waistline. Full sugar beverages absolutely have to go, and I hate how everything is now an "energy drink". For some reason, people associate energy drinks with health, when in fact they often have more calories than standard beverages. I saw yesterday that Lipton is actually selling "Energy Tea" now. That really has to stop. People are gulping down bottles of this stuff and then going home to play XBox...what's the point?

 

[nehalem256]

You are kidding right? Watch any fat person documentary and they all eat 10,000 calories a day. Often, a lot if it is in Big Gulps.

I thought people got fat because they had a "metabolic disorder"

Although I stand my statement

But I doubt most people could eat that much without getting sick.

Really. If you doubt me. Try eating 10,000 calories for just one day. Then report back on how it goes for you!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

This is a complete and total lie. There is nothing stopping you from gaining that much weigh if you non stop eat.

I'm sorry. I didn't know you were a medical professional with an understanding of the complex subject of human metabolism, and the resultant phenomenon of appetite, satiety and associated feedback mechanisms. How long have you been practicing?

 

[nehalem256]

That's disgusting. If you're going to drink calories, at least do it with alcohol.

Lets do some fun math.

64 calories per shot. Which means you would need to drink 156 shots a day to get 10,000 calories.

So drinking 156 shots in 24 hours yields a BAC of 1.706. 20 times the legal limit. You would be dead.

Alternatively you could drink 65 beers per day yielding a BAC of only 0.473. Unfortunately you may very well be dead.

http://bloodalcoholcalculator.org/#LinkURL

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I'm sorry. I didn't know you were a medical professional with an understanding of the complex subject of human metabolism, and the resultant phenomenon of appetite, satiety and associated feedback mechanisms. How long have you been practicing?

I'm sorry that reality and objective fact don't conform to your worldview.

 

[Pantlegz]

Well sure if you want to eat 10,000 calories a day I am sure you could do it.

But I doubt most people could eat that much without getting sick.

For comparison that is around 12 2-liter bottles of Pepsi per day. Drink up!

BMR at 500lbs is between 3,000 and 3,500 calories a day which one could easily hit and if they're mostly sedentary their calorie expenditure for the day could easily be under 4,500. I'm not looking it up but I'm sure a couple large meals from whatever fastfood joint the prefer along with 72+ ounces of soda tossed in between meals could easily surpass 4,500 calories. The best part of all this is their insulin levels are off the chart, which tells the body to store energy(fat) and even if they diet for a month it's probably not enough time for major changes to take place, they get discouraged and revert back to their awful eating habits and determine it's "genetic".

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Well sure if you want to eat 10,000 calories a day I am sure you could do it.

But I doubt most people could eat that much without getting sick.

For comparison that is around 12 2-liter bottles of Pepsi per day. Drink up!

Of course. It should have been painfully obvious that "normal" would preclude such an excess. It's mathematically possible to gain any amount of weight, but in practice people get sick of eating. When clinicians see someone who is extraordinarily obese there's either a horrific metabolic disorder or severe mental disease or both. No one "accidentally" becomes that heavy any more than one sticks a propeller in their ass and flies away.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm sorry that reality and objective fact don't conform to your worldview.

Then you need to go out and teach all of us who have never seen this marvel of reality and objective fact!

Pro tip. Because something is mathematically possible or could in theory happen does not mean it does. These people who just accidently overeat themselves into 500lbs aren't seen. There's an underlying disease process present.

 

[purbeast0]

Really. If you doubt me. Try eating 10,000 calories for just one day. Then report back on how it goes for you!

do you really think this problem developed overnight? as in, the fatties were eating normal 2000-3000 calories, then one day they were like "OK TODAY IM GOING TO EAT 10,000 CALORIES". it doesn't happen like that, it's gradual. and yes, anyone who conditions themself to eat that many calories can do it, and any "normal" person can do it. stop trying to make excuses for why people get fat. other than the extremely rare medical condition, every fat person is fat because they are eating way more calories than they need to be.

 

[Andy22]

I have two daughters. My oldest daughter is skinny and athletic. Does not eat very much. Loves sweets and junk food like most kids but will never eat too much because her stomach is so small. She rarely finishes her meals completely. My youngest daughter, at a very early age, seemed enamored with food and her meals. Loves to eat and her favorite meal is her next meal. Had we let her eat when she asked for it, she would be one of those kids that you see and shake your head at. She would be obese. She's 9. As it stands she is a little overweight. She IS very active, plays outside a lot, plays soccer, rides her bike etc. But this kid loves food. It's so odd how different they are. We've spoken at length to both of them about eating healthy and limiting the bad foods for health reasons...never for body shape. i.e. You'll get fat if you eat this or that.

I suspect many of the obese kids start like my youngest daughter. It's easier to allow them to have what they want foodwise rather than argue about what food and how much. So they give in. Then it becomes habit or routine. Then as kids get older and get into middle/high school they get picked on and ostracized and they eat to ease the pain and the cycle to real obesity begins.

Guess what I am getting at is that when you parent kids that love to eat you have to set boundaries and you have to be willing to fight that battle for your kids sake even if they don't fully understand it.

 

[PricklyPete]

I thought people got fat because they had a "metabolic disorder"



Although I stand my statement







Really. If you doubt me. Try eating 10,000 calories for just one day. Then report back on how it goes for you!

I would get sick because I eat a normal amount if food in a given day. This doesn't happen over night, these people work up to the calories they eat. It is not because of some metabolism disorder ( obviously some people have a disorder, but we haven't suddenly gotten fat in this country because everyone developed a metabolism disorder in the last 3 decades).

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Then you need to go out and teach all of us who have never seen this marvel of reality and objective fact!

Pro tip. Because something is mathematically possible or could in theory happen does not mean it does. These people who just accidently overeat themselves into 500lbs aren't seen. There's an underlying disease process present.

And so I assume Americans have some sort of unique genetic defect that makes us so predisposed to getting this disease.

Also the above. You assume people just up and arbitrarily decide eat 10k calories a day. As said above, its a gradual process.

 

[Pantlegz]

Then you need to go out and teach all of us who have never seen this marvel of reality and objective fact!

Pro tip. Because something is mathematically possible or could in theory happen does not mean it does. These people who just accidently overeat themselves into 500lbs aren't seen. There's an underlying disease process present.

I disagree, people slowly increase what they eat, the feedback mechanisms respond later and later because they're saturated with stimulus, insulin is off the charts every ounce of excess calories is converted to fat, they go from 2000 calories to 2500 calories then add in a soda or 2 a day that takes them to around 3000 - which if their weight holding steady at 2000 calories this would be added a pound of fat every 3.5 days, or 100lbs in a year if their BMR is constant. Over time they're not longer satisfied with 3000 calories or they get busy and stop cooking at home and eat out more often and they're up to 4,000+ calories a day. Do this for a years slowing eating more and before you know it you're severely obese and your body is so wrecked that there isn't a lot you can do about it reversing it naturally.