Anti-ACORN filmmaker arrested

[Patranus]

They did say that had video unrelated to ACRON that they would be releasing in 2010.

I wonder if this event might be related.

 

[Red Dawn]

O'Keefe's projects may play well to the conservative, the reformist and the joker crowds, but he is too much of a merry prankster to be in with the serious politicos.

So you are saying that he isn't a corrupt asshole?

 

[soundforbjt]

I am sticking by my original post.

They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

That being said, it will be interesting to see what facts come out in the days to come. I find it hard to believe that the case is as clear cut as is being reported right now. You would have to be incredibly stupid to do what he is being accused of doing.

Perhaps he thought he was invincible, Young people around that age tend to think that way sometimes, plus all the gushing support he got from the right & Faux news surely contributed to it, I'll bet.

 

[Moonbeam]

This totally invalidates the Acorn sting thingi as that too was probably a criminal lie with a hired person acting the part of Acorn or paid to do the act.

 

[Red Dawn]

This totally invalidates the Acorn sting thingi as that too was probably a criminal lie with a hired person acting the part of Acorn or paid to do the act.

It might invalidate it but I'm sure there is a lot of truth to it.

 

[werepossum]

They did say that had video unrelated to ACORN that they would be releasing in 2010.

I wonder if this event might be related.

"In this video, I sting myself. Watch me get my ass sent to prison."

 

[PJABBER]

Yea, almost like there is a difference in something involving an actual crime.

The ACORN story was as much about attacking the messengers as it was about the criminality of the ACORN organization.

Obviously, the news media's overwhelming attention and intent to make hay of O'Keefe and buddies stems much more from the impact they had in exposing a left wing Democrat organization than the specifics known about the alleged crime.

Knowing something about O'Keefe's attempts at agitprop, I expect this will become another cause célèbre, but still one that only involves the actors and not some links to external agencies.

 

[PJABBER]

So you are saying that he isn't a corrupt asshole?

Well, O'Keefe might be an asshole, but he is a certain kind of asshole. And he has always skirted the niceties of the law in pointing out societal corruption and laughable political correctness. I think of him as being a sophomoric joker with a message.

He started off in college playing all kinds of organized pranks getting people to believe that political incorrectness has been done, but it was all being set up as an elaborate, and transparent, farce.

The Veritas Visual website is down, like I said, but I found some of the clips on the Veritas Visuals YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/veritasvisuals

Non-Gay Men with Girlfriends get Married to Each Other

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruh3TZvdkQ0

Love Thy Prisoner Campaign: Adopt a Jihad Detainee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFyEg8qZuPs

Bailout Prize Patrol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4hrnbhIHDY

Latinas Declare Sotomayor Racist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrumI6adTvw

Washington University political officials shut down Gulag Memorial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGodFaUNn3Q

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BTW, I just went PLATINUM with 2,000, that's right, in your face, 2,000 posts! Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah! :awe:

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Ahem. Now we return you back to your regularly scheduled programming. ()

 

[soundforbjt]

^^^ Boy, some of you righties will defend anybody if it helps your cause.

 

[PJABBER]

^^^ Boy, some of you righties will defend anybody if it helps your cause.

ALL of you lefties will defend anybody if it helps your cause.

 

[soundforbjt]

^^^^

troll, troll troll, your boat

glad to see you admitted to being a rightie.

 

[werepossum]

ALL of you lefties will defend anybody if it helps your cause.

LOL! Almost all, anyway. I know nothing of the kid other than his exposing ACORN, and I applaud him for that, but I'd still throw the book at him. A whistle blower who commits a minor felony while exposing corruption I'd excuse, but a would-be whistle blower who commits a minor felony on the grounds that he might expose corruption is merely a felon.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Well, O'Keefe might be an asshole, but he is a certain kind of asshole. And he has always skirted the niceties of the law in pointing out societal corruption and laughable political correctness. I think of him as being a sophomoric joker with a message.

He started off in college playing all kinds of organized pranks getting people to believe that political incorrectness has been done, but it was all being set up as an elaborate, and transparent, farce.

The Veritas Visual website is down, like I said, but I found some of the clips on the Veritas Visuals YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/veritasvisuals

Non-Gay Men with Girlfriends get Married to Each Other

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruh3TZvdkQ0

Love Thy Prisoner Campaign: Adopt a Jihad Detainee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFyEg8qZuPs

Bailout Prize Patrol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4hrnbhIHDY

Latinas Declare Sotomayor Racist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrumI6adTvw

Washington University political officials shut down Gulag Memorial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGodFaUNn3Q

+++++++++++++

BTW, I just went PLATINUM with 2,000, that's right, in your face, 2,000 posts! Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah! :awe:

+++++++++++++

Ahem. Now we return you back to your regularly scheduled programming. ()

Easily the shittiest videos I have ever watched. I really do not know how he was able to fool anybody in those videos with the shitty acting he and his other "actors" were doing. I'm not surprised one bit that he was caught this time. Hope they throw the whole damn book at his ugly face.

 

[spidey07]

I don't think whistleblower laws could protect him in this? I thought that was normally against retribution from an employer for ratting them out?

He/They might be able to get off lightly if they didn't tamper with anything.

 

[soundforbjt]

I'm waiting for the spin on O'Really and InSanity tonite, and Beck's chalkboard on this tomorrow.

 

[spidey07]

I'm waiting for the spin on O'Really and InSanity tonite, and Beck's chalkboard on this tomorrow.

I'll fill you in - it will be about how this is a breaking story on all news networks and how the original ACORN exposure was hardly covered. Look up the original thread - it was untouched for days/weeks by anybody besides Fox. Same with ClimateGate.

No, it's not a conspiracy, just an inconvenient avoidance.

 

[werepossum]

I don't think whistleblower laws could protect him in this? I thought that was normally against retribution from an employer for ratting them out?

He/They might be able to get off lightly if they didn't tamper with anything.

Yeah, he has no legal protection whatsoever. I was saying whistle blower because that's likely the defense, that they were uncovering corruption, but even had they uncovered corruption they wouldn't be able to claim whistle blower protections. Journalists aren't allowed to break laws to get stories, but it's commonly not prosecuted. This appears to be an attempt to bug a public official's telephone, though, and that's way over the line of discretion. Not even a network anchor could get away with bugging a Senator's office. Even if it were a Republican Senator this would almost certainly be prosecuted - and should be. Even if they cop a plea and get no jail time they should have the felonies on their records.

Just thought of something else - their defense may be that they were doing a story on how easily a Senator's phone can be compromised. Which if true, would be ironic considering the outcome.

 

[Ozoned]

They did say that had video unrelated to ACRON that they would be releasing in 2010.

I wonder if this event might be related.

Maybe it is a video about Media Bias.

 

[PJABBER]

LOL! Almost all, anyway. I know nothing of the kid other than his exposing ACORN, and I applaud him for that, but I'd still throw the book at him. A whistle blower who commits a minor felony while exposing corruption I'd excuse, but a would-be whistle blower who commits a minor felony on the grounds that he might expose corruption is merely a felon.

Understand that the ACORN expose O'Keefe and Giles eventually got was much, much more than what they were aiming for to begin with.

Hannah Giles saw the work O'Keefe was doing in the above referenced videos and thought it would be a hoot to join his antics. The emailed each other and set up a one time filming on the premise we have all come to know.

The opportunity came when they realized, hey, ACORN is REALLY as corrupt as we thought! So they started going to other offices and they were all ALSO corrupt.

All of a sudden what was a jokey kind of thing stumbled into something potentially much more damaging to the radical left ACORN, which they despised more and more as they saw these were criminals that would abet the most heinous crimes.

They were going to go with just a Veritias Visuals posting, then they said let's shop this around - it is newsworthy. Andrew Breitbart saw the videos and said this is a real story. And ran with them. The rest is history.

O'Keefe and friends are basically jokers aiming at the politically correct - everyone knows the Left has no sense of humor, why not continue to make them the butt of joke after joke.

My guess is that the Landrieu Affair is another joke, but one gone bad in that they were caught, being as amateurish as they really are.

I do expect the four to be convicted of something like trespassing, but based on the history of this group of merry pranksters I would not expect that the prosecutors will find serious, nefarious intent. But time will tell. And you can bet the lefties will attack them as hard as they defended the criminality of ACORN.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I don't think whistleblower laws could protect him in this? I thought that was normally against retribution from an employer for ratting them out?

He/They might be able to get off lightly if they didn't tamper with anything.

What is going to get them in trouble is that they didn't just whistleblow, they actively went looking under false pretenses. There's a substantial difference in the eyes of the law between reporting a wrongdoing, and breaking laws to get information to report one.

They are screwed, and frankly should be.

 

[soundforbjt]

I'll fill you in - it will be about how this is a breaking story on all news networks and how the original ACORN exposure was hardly covered. Look up the original thread - it was untouched for days/weeks by anybody besides Fox. Same with ClimateGate.

No, it's not a conspiracy, just an inconvenient avoidance.

I don't seem to remember anyone at ACORN getting arrested and charged with a felony or a federal offense involving bugging a Senator, care to provide a link. Might be why this is more breaking news in more outlets than exposing a few dumb employees. [This could be terrorism for all we know.] (hope the righties sarcasm meters are working)

 

[dmcowen674]

I'm waiting for the spin on O'Really and InSanity tonite, and Beck's chalkboard on this tomorrow.

I'm sure the highest props to their hero.

Lying, cheating, criminal acts, Republicans will have shown they will do anything in their quest to continue to destroy America. They are the real Terrists.

 

[JSt0rm]

I'll fill you in - it will be about how this is a breaking story on all news networks and how the original ACORN exposure was hardly covered. Look up the original thread - it was untouched for days/weeks by anybody besides Fox. Same with ClimateGate.

No, it's not a conspiracy, just an inconvenient avoidance.

hey dumb fuck - you don't think that would have anything to do with this guy having basically celebrity status now do you? No no its the left wing media conspiracy to take him out and they tried to shield acorn. Next up the Illuminati nerve gases your family :biggrin:

 

[PJABBER]

I'm sure the highest props to their hero.

Lying, cheating, criminal acts, Republicans will have shown they will do anything in their quest to continue to destroy America. They are the real Terrists.

Don't know for sure but I seem to recall that O'Keefe is not a Republican and self-describes himself as a radical progressive.

Giles is a Bible Belt conservative. No political affiliation at first recall.

Robert Flanigan is not shown to be registered.

Joseph Basel is the only one self-identifying as Republican, being a former George Washington University College Republican.

Of the bunch, Stan Dai has the most interesting background with both journalism and intelligence work. Here is his bio, conspiracy fans get to work!

Stan Dai
Assistant Director, Trinity's Intelligence Community Center of Academic Excellence

Stan Dai is the Assistant Director of Trinity's Intelligence Community Center of Academic Excellence in DC. He was formerly the Assistant Operations Officer at a Department of Defense irregular warfare fellowship program and a Fellow on Terrorism at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. Stan graduated Phi Beta Kappa from the George Washington University.

Stan's main interest is the intersection of political mass movements, culture, and violence. He has discussed these topics as a guest lecturer at the George Washington University and on media outlets including C-SPAN's Washington Journal and Voice of America.

Stan has been involved in JSA since 2001: after attending summer school at Yale, he founded the JSA chapter at Naperville North, served in various Midwest region positions, and was a resident assistant at Georgetown.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Easily the shittiest videos I have ever watched. I really do not know how he was able to fool anybody in those videos with the shitty acting he and his other "actors" were doing. I'm not surprised one bit that he was caught this time. Hope they throw the whole damn book at his ugly face.

Could be posing as a pimp wasn't acting.