Another death from pitbulls.

[OlafSicky]

Kill the dogs kill the owners and kill the usless breed. All forms of pet ownership should be illegal. Anyone with a Pitbull is a moron.

 

[KillerCharlie]

So apparently pitbulls are the best dogs ever unless mistrained, then they kill people.

How many golden retrievers attack and kill people?

 

[Connoisseur]

So apparently pitbulls are the best dogs ever unless mistrained, then they kill people.

How many golden retrievers attack and kill people?

Not sure about other parts of the country but here in NYC, 99% of the animals in the pound are pitts. One of the most frequent excuses for why they're in the pound? The owner went to jail...

I visited ACC several times to donate items and even temporarily foster an old pit with my ex. I've actually seen people dropping off pitts a couple of times and it's hilarious (and sad) when they say "the owner's in prison". Sure they're strong and they definitely require extra care in the training department. However, the majority of pit's i've seen (and there are plenty in NYC) are extremely well behaved around humans. As others have said, they're amazing around kids. My experience of course.

 

[LumbergTech]

pits may not be as bad as they are made out to be, but they are still dangerous as hell because of their bite

my brother had to get quite a few stitches in his face when our beagle went nuts and jumped up and bit him in the face

any type of dog can hurt you, but pits are just so damn strong thats their downfall

 

[Connoisseur]

I also wanted to add that when I'm ready to get my own dog, it's a rescue all the way (and most likely a pit). I can't stand breeders and the people who buy from them. There's literally hundreds of thousands of animals of all ages, shapes and sizes in shelters which are basically waiting to die. They're being GIVEN away yet some people still want to go to a breeder.

For those who got their animals from a breeder and love them, good for you. But it's encouraging the already rampant over-population of pets and the ones in shelters need a lot more care than breeder dogs.

/shameless promotion of rescue dogs

 

[EliteRetard]

"How many golden retrievers attack and kill people?"

Quite a few actually, but theyre considered a "good" dog so they dont hit the news anywhere near as much. For them its always an "accident". And if somebody is getting attacked by one and kills it in defense they get sued and shamed for it, labeled as a heartless animal killer.

"So apparently pitbulls are the best dogs ever unless mistrained, then they kill people."

Not quite, even if they arent trained properly they wont go after somebody for no reason. They have to have been trained to attack or treated really badly for there to be a chance that they will just randomly attack someone. Its purposefull training and unfortunately its not worth trying to undo. If the dog is that bad it does need to be put down...there are plenty of other deserving animals that the time could be spent on.

If they have no/poor training, they might attack someone they dont know who invades their space and threatens them, but then the fault is at least half on the victim and partly on the owner. If they dont know the dog they shouldnt be going near it or messing with it. If they do know the dog theyll be safe unless they are being careless (like teasing the dog with something, and it accidently hurts the person).

If the dog is trainied properly it wont hurt anyone...it will give warning signs, but it will actually defend itself by running away. Unless it gets cornered and continued to be attacked...then it might just turn on you. But I think thats more than fair, who wouldnt react the same way?

 

[QueBert]

I've never heard of an accidental Golden Retriever death. I'm sorry but if one mauled a person to death it would be the main story on CNN and on the front page of ever news paper in america. If for nothing else than the WTF factor. I'm not saying Pitbulls are dangerous, I know plenty that are friendly as a Golden Retriever, but please link me to these stories where G.R's have mauled people.

 

[zerocool84]

Chows are more aggressive, Dalmatians are MUCH more aggressive. Like said already, the reason why is that it's a status symbol for criminals to own pitbulls so those people should not have them.

 

[coreyb]

making the comparison of golden retreivers not killing people is stupid. because a golden retreiver isn't a strong dog. even if it was viscious as hell, it would be far easier to stop it from attacking you then a pitbull, rottweiler etc

 

[Stifko]

Not sure about other parts of the country but here in NYC, 99% of the animals in the pound are pitts. One of the most frequent excuses for why they're in the pound? The owner went to jail...

I have fostered pits from the CACC on 110th street in manhattan. In my experience most have been strays and a lot of them have been abandoned after they delivered a litter of puppies. I too would never get a dog from a puppy mill and will most likely either foster or adopt a pit from the pound. It takes hours to adopt from them though. It is no wonder why so many dogs are put down every day there. Pits do need a strong hand when being disciplined, but they are a great been and terribly maligned. I was there last week and there was an AmStaff mix that I almost took home. The line was too long and I would have been there for at least 3 or 4 hours to adopt him.

 

[EliteRetard]

Actually, just to point it out, pomeranians have killed children before. Its not funny when any animal goes on a rampage no matter their size, but somehow people use it as an excuse.

There are many stories of golden retrievers attacking people, but like I said, they rarely hit the big new stations. Youll find reports in small newspapers and lawsuits that were filed. With a golden everyone always finds an excuse to write it off. Oh the goldie was threatened! Or it was an "accident", or "it was somebody/something elses fault", or it wasnt really a goldie it was a "mixed breed"! Theres no need for me to spend time looking for these, they are easy to find, and easily ignored/forgetten.

And thats another thing, they always use extreme words when its a pit, and downplay it when its not. You can get a scratch cutting a pits toenails and its a "mauling" but you can get half your face chewed off from a goldie and its "just a bite mark".

 

[brainhulk]

I have 2 pit/boxers and they are awesome dogs. Very obedient and gentle

the girl (on the right) has killed a couple possums, racoons, and a cat though....
k, take back what I said. Don't wander in my backyard if i'm not around lol

 

[surfsatwerk]

My goldfish would eat a baby.

 

[BUTCH1]

The fact that these idiots had 4 pits unattended and in enclosed in a fence that they could escape from is a big factor here, we have a 5 yr. old pit and she's on a steel cable and watched while outside to pee/poop and on a choke collar/leash when I walk her. She can be dog aggressive but that was/is reinforced by the fact that a lot of idiots don't secure their animals and she has been charged 3 times by dogs running out of garages,ect. Any owner of a pit must realize the power of this breed and use caution at all times, just because my dog has never bitten anyone doesn't mean I should EVER let it have an opportunity to do so..

 

[EliteRetard]

^ Yes.

 

[SlickSnake]

There is no such thing as training or mistraining a pit bull, or any other dog breed instinctively bred to be ferocious. Just like you can't train out the instincts in a wolf, bear or tiger. Yes, the TRAINER might think he's ok with the animal, for a while at least. But once that trained "pet" latches on to another person or another animal, the trainer better get out of the way, and be prepared to stop it, with violence, or he will get attacked too. How many kids and adults and pets have to die or get mauled and disfigured while the naive and irresponsible owners continuously claim the dogs are tame and/or trained?

Cops where I live shoot stray pitbulls or any other attack dogs like Dobermans or German Shepards where I live. That's proper animal control when the owners are recklessly naive like you attack dog lovers. Too bad they can't do the same thing to the careless, foolish owners who let them roam free or escape all the time.

 

[Linflas]

There is no such thing as training or mistraining a pit bull, or any other dog breed instinctively bred to be ferocious. Just like you can't train out the instincts in a wolf, bear or tiger. Yes, the TRAINER might think he's ok with the animal, for a while at least. But once that trained "pet" latches on to another person or another animal, the trainer better get out of the way, and be prepared to stop it, with violence, or he will get attacked too. How many kids and adults and pets have to die or get mauled and disfigured while the naive and irresponsible owners continuously claim the dogs are tame and/or trained?

Cops where I live shoot stray pitbulls or any other attack dogs like Dobermans or German Shepards where I live. That's proper animal control when the owners are recklessly naive like you attack dog lovers. Too bad they can't do the same thing to the careless, foolish owners who let them roam free or escape all the time.

You seem to be somewhat confused by the difference between training an animal that has been domesticated for over 50,000 years and taking in a wild wolf or bear cub and training it. Perhaps you and the cops that serve your area should educate yourselves rather than rely on misinformation and spreading the misinformation. Any dog can be trained including pit bulls previously trained as fighting dogs.

 

[SlickSnake]

You seem to be somewhat confused by the difference between training an animal that has been domesticated for over 50,000 years and taking in a wild wolf or bear cub and training it. Perhaps you and the cops that serve your area should educate yourselves rather than rely on misinformation and spreading the misinformation. Any dog can be trained including pit bulls previously trained as fighting dogs.

Your posting BS and we both know it. And I'm sure another pitbull troll will wander in and support your insanity, too.

Seriously, tho, all pitbull BS aside, I'd like to see how long you lasted trying to catch pitbulls by hand where I live, bro. And you better have your life and medical insurance all paid up before you start. And someone else standing by with a gun to stop it when you get attacked.

 

[Linflas]

Your posting BS and we both know it. And I'm sure another pitbull troll will wander in and support your insanity, too.

Seriously, tho, all pitbull BS aside, I'd like to see how long you lasted trying to catch pitbulls by hand where I live, bro. And you better have your life and medical insurance all paid up before you start. And someone else standing by with a gun to stop it when you get attacked.

No I am not posting "BS". Once again instead of spewing ignorance on an internet message board how about you attempt to inform yourself.


Pit Bull Resources

As the breed of choice for dogfighters, pit bulls attract many people who want them for all the wrong reasons. As a result, they are the most abused, misunderstood dog breed—comprising an estimated 70% of dogs housed and euthanized in urban animal shelter systems.

It's a grim situation for a breed whose sweet temperament around children once earned it the nickname of "the nanny dog."

 

[erikistired]

There is no such thing as training or mistraining a pit bull, or any other dog breed instinctively bred to be ferocious. Just like you can't train out the instincts in a wolf, bear or tiger. Yes, the TRAINER might think he's ok with the animal, for a while at least. But once that trained "pet" latches on to another person or another animal, the trainer better get out of the way, and be prepared to stop it, with violence, or he will get attacked too. How many kids and adults and pets have to die or get mauled and disfigured while the naive and irresponsible owners continuously claim the dogs are tame and/or trained?

Cops where I live shoot stray pitbulls or any other attack dogs like Dobermans or German Shepards where I live. That's proper animal control when the owners are recklessly naive like you attack dog lovers. Too bad they can't do the same thing to the careless, foolish owners who let them roam free or escape all the time.

how do you breed ferocity exactly? are you claiming breeders are now tinkering with dog dna?

also, i highly doubt your claims that patrols of cops roam the streets shooting dogs, whatever the breed. it's a cute story, but not very likely. bro.

 

[SlickSnake]

how do you breed ferocity exactly? are you claiming breeders are now tinkering with dog dna?

also, i highly doubt your claims that patrols of cops roam the streets shooting dogs, whatever the breed. it's a cute story, but not very likely. bro.

Breeders breed ferocious dogs together, DUH. I have known pitbull breeders that only bred the ferocious tempered ones. So yea, they are tampering with their DNA, smartass. Those ferocious genes then get passed down to other generations, don't they?

And you would be wrong, dead wrong. They shot at least 15 last year, and missed about 2xs that. I shot at 2 pitbull mutts in my backyard that attacked me and my cat last year, the cat was paralyzed and had to be put to sleep, and I suffered injuries that required surgery. Too bad they moved so fast and I missed them both after they injured me. Next time it happens, I won't be injured and bleeding, and I won't miss.

A neighbor across the street also had half of her scalp torn off and had to have it reattached by a "friendly" pitbull that never harmed anyone. For every news story about pitbulls killing or maiming people, there are countless 1000s you never hear about, every single year. Just in the USA. Not to mention the 1000s of attacks by other dog breeds.

 

[SlickSnake]

Right now, there is an almost full grown German Shepard walking outside my fence in the front yard that can jump the 4 foot fence. I know it is friendly to cats and people, but our cops don't know that. If I called them right now and they came out, or they happened to drive by they would shoot it before I could stop them. I have warned the new neighbors about the cops shooting dogs here. I could also direct you to a message board full of careless jackass neighbors of my city complaining about their dogs being shot and killed or injured for not keeping them in their yard. And the cops aren't the only ones shooting at stray ferocious dogs here. The citizens have shot at more than the cops have, by a long shot.

And since I'm also on a fire department with EMS training, I'm also a first responder to a lot of the attacks and shootings we have here that you never will hear about on the news.

 

[Connoisseur]

I could also direct you to a message board full of careless jackass neighbors of my city complaining about their dogs being shot and killed or injured for not keeping them in their yard. And the cops aren't the only ones shooting at stray ferocious dogs here. The citizens have shot at more than the cops have, by a long shot.
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Out of curiosity, where is it that you live? From your description, it sounds like your area is chock full of stray dogs. Stray animals are to be treated with extreme caution, regardless of breed. In addition, There's countless pit bull mixes other than the standard stereotype of a pit. If you're just worried about size and strength, there's plenty of mutts that are much smaller/more docile than the stereotype.

This is one of those hot button topics like abortion which people will never agree on. Lovers of the animal will contend that a well-trained/adjusted pit is as sweet as any other animal. People who only see the dog as powerful and vicious will never like them. In my opinion: Sure they have the capability to do harm... but so do cars, guns, knives and any other day to day objects. It's how they're handled and treated that determines whether they actually do anything.

A few examples I always like to quote. I've met a couple of the pit bulls that were rescued from Vick's dog fighting ring. Different owners, different locations. Each of the owners are experienced with dogs and have at least 2 other dogs besides the Vick pit bulls. In both instances, the pits are extremely obedient, get along amazingly with the owners (and the children) and have had no behavioral issues since getting rescued.

With that said, I absolutely agree that no dog should be left unattended around people/other animals or should be roaming free on the streets. There's too many unknowns and it's just careless ownership.

 

[DesiPower]

Charge the owners with reckless homicide.

Kill the dogs.

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[Texashiker]

Pit Bulls have plenty of great traits and properly trained make great pets and family companions. But they aren't for everyone, and unfortunately they have become a status symbol for someone who wants to be "badass". And this is exactly the type of owner that is wrong for the breed.

+1 on that statement. Too many people look at pit bulls as saying "I'am a badass mofo" - then the pit bull attacks and kills the kids.

This guy I know, he is a friend of the family, when he was was about 19 or 20 years old he got a pit bull. The problem was, the dog was kept on a chain and was not socialized with other people or the kids.

When the dog got off the chain, he snapped at the kids. The dog was put down "just in case" it turned violent. The owner erred on the side of caution.

The owner of the dog had a 2 year old son, and a newborn. It was one of those situations where "if" the dog attacked the child, the child would have been killed. Due to it acting aggressive towards the 2 year old, I think the owner made the best decision.

Do i blame the dog? No, I blame the guy who got the dog and did not socialize it properly. Now the dog is dead because its owner is an idiot.