American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: Dari


You're missing the point. The long view should always regress to mediocrity. In other words, there is an average that we should seek.

what is the average?

For countries? It should be a country with a stable government, strong property rights, judicial rights, and an open economy.

That has nothing to do with the average for humanity. The average throughout human history has been oppression, ignorance, and hunger.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: Dari


You're missing the point. The long view should always regress to mediocrity. In other words, there is an average that we should seek.

what is the average?

For countries? It should be a country with a stable government, strong property rights, judicial rights, and an open economy.

That has nothing to do with the average for humanity. The average throughout human history has been oppression, ignorance, and hunger.

I'm talking about an average country TODAY.

 

[kage69]

Awesome jobs SEALs!!! The captain has been freed, the pirates took a trip to the boneyard. Seems it was personally approved by Obama :thumbsup:

Nice

 

[AnandTech Moderator]

Dari, you are making a a decently substantive point that is better served in a thread of your own making.

However, it is derailing THIS particular thread and you must stop prolonging that derailment now.

Perknose
Senior AT Mod

 

[JSFLY]

Thumbs up for the Navy.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I just heard on ABC radio that the Navy believed the captain was in immenent danger.
There were 3 men on the pirates vessel guarding the Captain. 3 Navy Sharpshooters from the Destroyer took all 3 men out simultaneously!

The captain jumped over board with Navy Seals waiting for him!!

Sounds like a good job all around!!

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: JSFLY
Thumbs up for the Navy.

:thumbsup:

 

[fallenangel99]

good job.. who said Obama wasn't going to be tough?

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: AnandTech Moderator
Dari, you are making a a decently substantive point that is better served in a thread of your own making.

However, it is derailing THIS particular thread and you must stop prolonging that derailment now.

Perknose
Senior AT Mod

The OPs first line, before edit, was....

"Think they will mess with an American ship again???"

Seems Dari, and others, are on topic. To stop it now would be against the orignal question.

 

[fallenangel99]

Any details on the details? did the SEALS shoot from the ship? good aim then..

 

[FaaR]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975The OPs first line, before edit, was....

"Think they will mess with an American ship again???"

Errrrrrr, Maersk is actually a Danish shipping line, not American.

However, as much as one has reason to criticize the US military machine, in this particular instance there's nothing else to say other than a warm, heartfelt GOOOD JOB!

Only better outcome would have been more pirates captured and put before a tribunal for sentencing, but the important thing here is the hostage's alright.

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: FaaR

Originally posted by: Marlin1975The OPs first line, before edit, was....

"Think they will mess with an American ship again???"

Errrrrrr, Maersk is actually a Danish shipping line, not American.

However, as much as one has reason to criticize the US military machine, in this particular instance there's nothing else to say other than a warm, heartfelt GOOOD JOB!

Only better outcome would have been more pirates captured and put before a tribunal for sentencing, but the important thing here is the hostage's alright.

I agree, however, if there are issues that are leading up to these problems, they should be examined.....I find it quite hilarious how the context that leads up these situations is somehow considered off topic

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: FaaR

Originally posted by: Marlin1975The OPs first line, before edit, was....

"Think they will mess with an American ship again???"

Errrrrrr, Maersk is actually a Danish shipping line, not American.

The Maersk Alabama is an American flagged ship.

 

[FaaR]

Originally posted by: feralkidThe Maersk Alabama is an American flagged ship.

So a Corvette Stingray with Russian plates is a Russian car then? lol!

The flag under which a ship sails is basically just a technicality; Maersk is still a Danish company, thus making it a Danish ship.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

I agree, however, if there are issues that are leading up to these problems, they should be examined.....I find it quite hilarious how the context that leads up these situations is somehow considered off topic

WHAT context? They're fucking pirates looking for money, and this has been going on since the early 1990's.

Piracy in Somalia

Piracy off the Somali coast has been a threat to international shipping since the beginning of Somalia's civil war in the early 1990s. Since 2005, many international organizations, including the International Maritime Organization and the World Food Programme, have expressed concern over the rise in acts of piracy. Piracy has contributed to a rise in shipping costs and impeded the delivery of food aid shipments. Ninety percent of the World Food Programme's shipments arrive by sea, and ships have required a military escort. According to the Kenyan foreign minister, Somali pirates have received over US$150 million during the 12 months prior to November 2008.

Clashes have been reported between Somalia's Islamist fighters, who are opposed to the Transitional Federal Government, and the pirates. In August 2008, Combined Task Force 150, a multinational coalition task force, took on the role of fighting Somali piracy by establishing a Maritime Security Patrol Area (MSPA) within the Gulf of Aden. The increasing threat posed by piracy also caused significant concerns in India since most of its shipping trade routes pass through the Gulf of Aden. The Indian Navy responded to these concerns by deploying a warship in the region on October 23, 2008. In September 2008, Russia announced that it too will soon join international efforts to combat piracy.

On October 7, 2008, the United Nations Security Council adopted resolution 1838 calling on nations with vessels in the area to apply military force to repress the acts of piracy. At the 101st council of the International Maritime Organization, India called for a United Nations peacekeeping force under unified command to tackle piracy off Somalia. (There has been a general and complete arms embargo against Somalia since 1992.)

In November 2008, Somali pirates began hijacking ships well outside the Gulf of Aden, perhaps targeting ships headed for the port of Mombasa, Kenya.
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Deal with the social drama of the root causes in a thread about that. As much as you want to hijack the thread, this isn't it.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

I agree, however, if there are issues that are leading up to these problems, they should be examined.....I find it quite hilarious how the context that leads up these situations is somehow considered off topic

WHAT context? They're fucking pirates looking for money, and this has been going on since the early 1990's.

Piracy in Somalia

Piracy off the Somali coast has been a threat to international shipping since the beginning of Somalia's civil war in the early 1990s. Since 2005, many international organizations, including the International Maritime Organization and the World Food Programme, have expressed concern over the rise in acts of piracy. Piracy has contributed to a rise in shipping costs and impeded the delivery of food aid shipments. Ninety percent of the World Food Programme's shipments arrive by sea, and ships have required a military escort. According to the Kenyan foreign minister, Somali pirates have received over US$150 million during the 12 months prior to November 2008.

Clashes have been reported between Somalia's Islamist fighters, who are opposed to the Transitional Federal Government, and the pirates. In August 2008, Combined Task Force 150, a multinational coalition task force, took on the role of fighting Somali piracy by establishing a Maritime Security Patrol Area (MSPA) within the Gulf of Aden. The increasing threat posed by piracy also caused significant concerns in India since most of its shipping trade routes pass through the Gulf of Aden. The Indian Navy responded to these concerns by deploying a warship in the region on October 23, 2008. In September 2008, Russia announced that it too will soon join international efforts to combat piracy.

On October 7, 2008, the United Nations Security Council adopted resolution 1838 calling on nations with vessels in the area to apply military force to repress the acts of piracy. At the 101st council of the International Maritime Organization, India called for a United Nations peacekeeping force under unified command to tackle piracy off Somalia. (There has been a general and complete arms embargo against Somalia since 1992.)

In November 2008, Somali pirates began hijacking ships well outside the Gulf of Aden, perhaps targeting ships headed for the port of Mombasa, Kenya.
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Deal with the social drama of the root causes in a thread about that. As much as you want to hijack the thread, this isn't it.

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Think they will mess with an American ship again???

 

[Taejin]

Hey guys, nothing to celebrate here. We haven't solved all of the world's problems, I can't believe you'd even consider being happy over this small piece of good news. I hope you all die in your sleep.



That was over the top. Next time use better judgment.

Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn

 

[sciwizam]

Originally posted by: Taejin
Hey guys, nothing to celebrate here. We haven't solved all of the world's problems, I can't believe you'd even consider being happy over this small piece of good news. I hope you all die in your sleep.

Classy :thumbsup:

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: Taejin
Hey guys, nothing to celebrate here. We haven't solved all of the world's problems, I can't believe you'd even consider being happy over this small piece of good news. I hope you all die in your sleep.



I hope you enjoy your week away from Anandtech.

Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn

lol p&n is like stepping thru a mine field.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I'm glad that this was favorably resolved. Now we need to execute the fourth pirate who surrendered, then chop the four pirate bodies into pieces and drop them along the Somalian shore. In the meantime, we need to completely and mercilessly raze all of the pirate bases and/or cities harboring pirate bases to the ground to send a message. Afterwards, we might consider lining the beaches and boat launch points with landmines and sea mines.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

I'm glad that this was favorably resolved. Now we need to execute the fourth pirate who surrendered, then chop the four pirate bodies into pieces and drop them along the Somalian shore. In the meantime, we need to completely and mercilessly raze all of the pirate bases and/or cities harboring pirate bases to the ground to send a message. Afterwards, we might consider lining the beaches and boat launch points with landmines and sea mines.

Creepy.

As I said in the other thread though, dumb idea on the pirates' part. There was absolutely no way the US/Obama was going to back down and lose face to those guys, and so the only even reasonably likely outcome was their surrender or their deaths.

I'm not sure if they realized the situation they were in.

 

[smashp]

good ol American Ninja's got the job done

looks like we just ended one of the Internet's most important questions once and for all....

 

[railer]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
And then paid the pirates a million for his freedom. I am sure that would have really done a lot to stop future incidents.

No silly. We should pay billions to make the Somali's lives better, that way they will love us and won't WANT to be pirates anymore, don't you see?

And then we can spend billions on Ethiopia.

And then we can spend billions on Sudan.

And then we can spend billions on Tanzania.

Etc, etc, etc.

Right Dari?

They've all had very hard lives. They live in poverty. They don't have good jobs, like they used to when Africa was a thriving economic hub. We need to cure all of their problems for them. It's our fault that they're pirates in the first place.

We're bad. :<

 

[railer]

Originally posted by: Taejin
Hey guys, nothing to celebrate here. We haven't solved all of the world's problems, I can't believe you'd even consider being happy over this small piece of good news. I hope you all die in your sleep.



I hope you enjoy your week away from Anandtech.

Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn

I don't know Taejin's post history, but my sarcasm meter was banging off the chart when I read that.

<shrug>

 

[Leon]

Now we need to execute the fourth pirate who surrendered,

I disagree. I'd say let him go, with some loot strapped to his body (preferably gold). Just drop him off the ship, few hundred miles away from the shore.

Leon