NIGELG
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LOL.......but midrange chips might start to cost that price if there is a monopoly.....who knows?But we already have 1000$ processor and gpu
LOL.......but midrange chips might start to cost that price if there is a monopoly.....who knows?But we already have 1000$ processor and gpu
x86 is still a huge market, and there is much to be made in the enterprise market. But I agree that it is a huge issue, AMD is the only company that has survived competing directly with Intel, but it is bleeding AMD dry.By who and why? Competiting with Intel is economic suicide.
x86 is still a huge market, and there is much to be made in the enterprise market. But I agree that it is a huge issue, AMD is the only company that has survived competing directly with Intel, but it is bleeding AMD dry.
LOL.......but midrange chips might start to cost that price if there is a monopoly.....who knows?
They aren't competing. Competing would assume your products are somewhat similar in performance..
imo they'll sell their gpu division to someone like qualcomm, or samsung who'll use it to make mobile (phone/tablet) gpu's. There'll be a load of strings attached meaning AMD can still use Ati tech in their x86 cpu's.
The GPU division is viable and has good products. Let the CPU division go under and Intel can buy out the GPU division. We'll get GPUs leap frogged ahead to a smaller process node on Intel's glorious fab technology.
Ahh Qualcomm, the benefactor of AMDs unbelievably stupid decision to sell off their mobile division for pennies a few years ago. I am sure they would welcome such a deal again.
imo they'll sell their gpu division to someone like qualcomm, or samsung who'll use it to make mobile (phone/tablet) gpu's. There'll be a load of strings attached meaning AMD can still use Ati tech in their x86 cpu's.
They sold their "mobile division" to qualcomm. I bet they did not invest into this market after the deal. So right now they have no Low-Power-Design.
The whole world is going mobile if not there already.
As the market moves forward mobile gpu's are going to keep moving from being pretty simple to much more like what we get on a desktop, with dx11, gpu compute, etc obviously all while staying in a tiny power envelope. Qualcomm probably doesn't know much about how to do dx11 or gpu compute but they will need to if they want to compete with nvidia who does. Buying Ati would give them that expertise.
I see this thrown about alot along with the word "cloud".
No one who says it ever seems to grasp that the real work horses in this scenario are still x86, power, etc servers. The volume also has to increase to handle the increased load if this imagining came to pass.
"Oh, I'll just use provider X for this, so x86 is dead!" (IN the background, provider X is increasing its x86 footprint to be able to run all these applications in volume).
What's to grasp? Arm servers are being built to. Aren't they?
Just a quick example:
http://armservers.com/
That was the first hit on a google search. There are literally hundreds.
I'm going to steal a line from pawn stars and flip it around a bit for my purposes...
Yes, they're being built, and people are asking to sell them online, but are people buying them?
People are building "raspberry pi"s as well. Since those are being built, we should assume that they are servers too?
I hear Apple used to make a server product, that was being built, it must have taken over as well?
I hear AMD makes a server proc, that's being built, it must be taking over as well (Ok, cheap shot at their 6% marketshare in that space).
You can see where I am going with this.
Imagine ATI hardware with Intel's driver team and software QC program. Match made in graphics card heaven.
No, I can't. I'm talking about ARM CPUs and there ever expanding usage. Embedded in damn near everything, even cars. Tablets, servers.
I don't even know wtf raspberry pi is. No clue.
You can probably look up ARM's sales. They are a publicly traded company, right? I'm pretty sure they are selling a few. LOL.
I hope AMD survives. Even if it means a partnership with the likes of Microsoft, Google or ARM. It would be horrible if the desktop CPU market would have only Intel as a member.
You haven't the foundation necessary to have this particular conversation, and I am not here to teach you. Feel free to keep thinking that because a few players are toying with making ARM servers that ARM servers are actually being purchased and used en masse.