AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[DrMrLordX]

Anything below 1.2v should be "safe". Highest i've gone is 1.175v for anything other than a few minutes.

 

[IRobot23]

Asus does show 1,134V peak (hwinfo), while CPU shows 1,125V peak, but usually runs at 1.111-1.09V.

 

[Despoiler]

I'm putting my Ryzen under a custom loop this weekend.

-Swiftech SKF Heirloom Limited Edition Water Block (Black on Black Chrome)
-Black Ice Nemesis 280GTX® Dual-Core Xtreme Profile Radiator - Black Carbon
-Phanteks PH-F140MP Radiator Fan
-Swiftech MCP50X Exteme 12 VDC DDC Pump
-Swiftech MCP35X Reservoir Rev. 2b
-Swiftech G1/4 1/2" Barb - Black
-Bitspower Black T-Block
-XSPC Ball Valve

 

[Eric1987]

Can you get above 4.1GHz with a custom loop?

 

[Despoiler]

Can you get above 4.1GHz with a custom loop?

I'm certainly going to try. =) I'm currently thermally constrained. Temps quickly run away under stress testing.

 

[seafox6686]

Hello all, I am trying to put together a pc for basically running ML and NLP algorithms using R,Python MATLAB.

I have finalized the following and need your help in finding out compatibility of the RAM


1. RYZEN 5 1600
2. ASUS PRIME B350 PLUS
3. ADATA XPG SPECTRIX D40 .AX4U300038G16-SRS .The MB's QVL list has AX4U300038G16-DBZ.I am not sure what that DBZ means?
4. Corsair Tx550m
5. Nvidia GT710. I am on a tight budget now so would add a 1060 gtx only on Jan next.


Thanks

 

[Crono]

As far as I can tell the 3 character suffix is a way of differentiating cosmetic and dual vs quad channel variants of the same model. SRS is the RGB variant, while DBZ is the normal dual channel kit. Assuming they are identical otherwise (they should be, but I haven't used it myself), it should likewise be compatible.

 

[seafox6686]

As far as I can tell the 3 character suffix is a way of differentiating cosmetic and dual vs quad channel variants of the same model. SRS is the RGB variant, while DBZ is the normal dual channel kit. Assuming they are identical otherwise (they should be, but I haven't used it myself), it should likewise be compatible.

I guess you are right. Would the corsair lpx ones be a safer bet since most of members here are using it? But in my country we get the corsair lpx vengeance 2400mhz costlier than these 3000mhz Adata ones.

 

[Crono]

I guess you are right. Would the corsair lpx ones be a safer bet since most of members here are using it? But in my country we get the corsair lpx vengeance 2400mhz costlier than these 3000mhz Adata ones.

They would be safer, yes. But I would go for the ADATA one without much fear. They will likely run at least at 2400MHz even if they aren't validated, and that lack of validation is probably only because it's a variant. Typically motherboard manufacturers validate only what they get from the RAM manufacturers, and a company like ADATA might only send the main versions of their RAM.

I don't know specifically for MATLAB if memory speed matters, but for many applications it does, so DDR4-3000 would be preferable. If it were higher speed Corsair Vengeance LPX and the price wasn't significantly higher, I would definitely go for it instead (I have several sticks of Vengeance LPX of varying speeds, and have used them with Ryzen 5/7, Phenom X4 950, and Intel Coffee Lake systems without much issues - good stuff).

 

[Eric1987]

A little offtopic but I cannot find the ryzen OC thread. Is my r7 1700 a good chip because it does 4GHz all day long at 1.4v and 3.8 at 1.35? I was trying to see but I dunno.

 

[Crono]

A little offtopic but I cannot find the ryzen OC thread. Is my r7 1700 a good chip because it does 4GHz all day long at 1.4v and 3.8 at 1.35? I was trying to see but I dunno.

I don't know if the statistics would have changed much, but Silicon Lottery had these stats early after launch:

Ryzen 7 1700
93% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V
70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V

In any case, it's good to hit 4.0GHz if it's stable, especially with a 1700.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I guess you are right. Would the corsair lpx ones be a safer bet since most of members here are using it? But in my country we get the corsair lpx vengeance 2400mhz costlier than these 3000mhz Adata ones.

The only reason to get Vengeance LPX is if you're getting some of the higher-speed stuff with ver 4.31 on the back (indicating Samsung b-die ICs). Vengeance LPX DDR4-2400 is likely to have Hynix or Micron ICs which will be no better than the Adata RAM you want to buy (which probably uses Hynix ICs). I would go with the Adata kit if I were you, given a choice between the two.

A little offtopic but I cannot find the ryzen OC thread. Is my r7 1700 a good chip because it does 4GHz all day long at 1.4v and 3.8 at 1.35? I was trying to see but I dunno.

3.8 at 1.35 is not great, but 4.0 at 1.4 is pretty normal for that clockspeed range. Not many 1700s can get there.

 

[krumme]

A little offtopic but I cannot find the ryzen OC thread. Is my r7 1700 a good chip because it does 4GHz all day long at 1.4v and 3.8 at 1.35? I was trying to see but I dunno.

I would guess so. My 1700 from launch day does 3.8 at 1.375
Nothing remotely like the binned tr stuff. I run stock now anyway because i dont need the power atm. Damn effective processor then.

 

[IRobot23]

Okay, something weird is happening. Could be system less stable with higher DRAM voltage?
I have pushed to 1.45V for DRAM for "maximum" stability since I tested only to 800%, but then system started to crash.. even on safe settings - tested.
ERROR:
System.UnexpectedException

So I shutdown, power out, tried safe settings and crashed few seconds in windows (freeze). Tried again with defaults settings it worked well. Then again back to tested OC setting = bsod or freeze.

So I shutdown, power out, both stick out and back in (same slot). I did back to 1.35V (was tested at 1.375V), 3333MT/s CL 16 16 16 16 39 62, boots in windows and quickly mem test:
- 96% memory load (avg)
- HCI 1600% PASSED
- AIDA64 mem&cache bench.

Interesting, right? Looks like these dims do not like above 1.425V

 

[DrMrLordX]

Live and learn then. I stay at 1.42v vDIMM myself so that may be a safe limit for you.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Can you get above 4.1GHz with a custom loop?

Ryzen isn't limited by thermals.

 

[snstr]

Is FlareX memory a reasonable choice for a Prime X370 Pro mainboard? For example F4-3200C14D-16GFX ?

Currently I have the CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 Vengeance LPX 3200, but all my attempts at overclocking this kit were not stable.

Are there any other memory options with reasonable high OC (low latency, high frequency) results for the Prime X370 Pro?

 

[Despoiler]

Wow. I learned a lot this weekend trying to get this loop up and running. It's going to be delayed until later this week. Waiting on more parts.

-Plan A. Top mount the rad & fans. Rule:Measure first. There is 80mm between the top of my case and the top of the motherboard. My rad is 54mm thick + 25mm for fans. 79mm. Should fit right? Nope. I would make this rule measure first and don't cut it so close.

-Plan B. Mount the rad and fans on the front intake. More than enough space. The only problem is now my video card doesn't fit back in in slots 1 or 2. Luck shined on me that it fits into slot 3, but.....it won't fit with the USB 3.0 front panel header cable in the mother board. I've got a 90 degree adapter on the way to solve this.

Other considerations. Fittings. I probably should have just gone with compression. I was thinking barbs + clamps because it's cheaper. Not that money is an issue. I was going to use black spring clamps like you see on your car's fuel or radiator hoses. Well 19mm to match the OD of the tubing is a terrible idea because getting maximum extension is a PITarse. Even more so trying to adjust positioning in the case. I would get 20mm so that my clamp force midpoint is the OD of my tubing. Literally everyone sells 19mm. I don't think they've ever used it. So I've got some aluminum clamps with hex keys coming. Price of barbs + spring clamps + aluminum hex clamps is basically the same as compression.

Anyways, nothing I can't handle. The pump and res are in the back of the case. The tubing will come through the cut outs. Overall this is going to turn out sweet. Couple cables to tidy up. The overall look will be very clean.

https://imgur.com/ZHDz1pj

 

[IEC]

Zip ties work just fine and cost a lot less. There are also the little plastic clamps that work well on barb fittings (and are reusable).

 

[IRobot23]

Is FlareX memory a reasonable choice for a Prime X370 Pro mainboard? For example F4-3200C14D-16GFX ?

Currently I have the CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 Vengeance LPX 3200, but all my attempts at overclocking this kit were not stable.

Are there any other memory options with reasonable high OC (low latency, high frequency) results for the Prime X370 Pro?

Wait, agesa 1.0.0.7 is coming soon.
Can you tell me what is your problem? Doesn't go above 3200MHz?

 

[DidelisDiskas]

Well, i finally tried out the ryzen-test script on my r7 1700 that i bought in may. The first time i tried it, it segfaulted in 2 minutes, but the second time it ran for 27 minutes before it failed with the message "build failed" (it did not say anything about a segfault, and was consuming over 10gb of ram, so maybe it was close to 16 that i have). Is one segfault enough to know that the cpu is effected and since i bought it at a local retailer with a 3 year warranty, would a normal warranty like that cover this issue?

 

[EXCellR8]

Zip ties work just fine and cost a lot less. There are also the little plastic clamps that work well on barb fittings (and are reusable).

haha, I'll admit I've used zip ties with soft tubing for some temporary or test loops. the very first Swiftech kit I bought, circa 2008, had the plastic clamps and I didn't use anything else until years later. now, my go to is the zinc spring clamps which you can find at the hardware or automotive supply store for fuel lines and power steering etc. they work great and don't strip out like some of the cheaper worm drive clamps.

 

[snstr]

Can you tell me what is your problem? Doesn't go above 3200MHz?

• 3200 MHz: Prime X370 lacks UEFI setting for higher DRAM boot voltage, so does not boot at all.
• 2933 MHz: Does boot, but instable. Tried to use even more loose timings, but at a certain point the increase in latency seems too big.
• 2666 MHz: Did not try, because trying to find stable settings compared to the meagre performance increase seems not worth the effort.

So I currently run the Vengeance LPX currently at stable 2133. As a side note, these are Hynix memory modules.

 

[IRobot23]

Question, does A320 support memory overclocking (XMP profiles)

 

[IRobot23]

• 3200 MHz: Prime X370 lacks UEFI setting for higher DRAM boot voltage, so does not boot at all.
• 2933 MHz: Does boot, but instable. Tried to use even more loose timings, but at a certain point the increase in latency seems too big.
• 2666 MHz: Did not try, because trying to find stable settings compared to the meagre performance increase seems not worth the effort.

So I currently run the Vengeance LPX currently at stable 2133. As a side note, these are Hynix memory modules.

What is your VSOC?... DRAM boot voltage is not big issue for XMP.
Did you flash to latest bios?

I have seen Hynix ram also at 3200MHz many times, XMP + VSOC on 1.05-1.1V