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pauldun170

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Ended up pulling the trigger on the Fuma 2.
In it's favor were reported quietness and being competitive with the DRP2 and Noctua's. Cheaper and finally it's a bit more friendly to other cases and board layouts. If I ditch this 3900x rig, I can always move the cooler over to a mATX setup.
Worse case scenario is that it sucks and I'll attach it one of the Raspberry pi 4 lying around the house for poops and giggles.
Fuma 2 followup.
In terms of layout, easy access to memory and good spacing between the video card.
Install was straight forward. Attach brackets to existing AMD backplate and then its easy to mount. Took under 5 minutes (excluding removal Wraith and tedious task of cleaning up paste fr om Wraith install.)

Super quiet. I'm now annoyed at my NAS because now that thing is the most noticeable fan in the room.
During stress testing in a 20-21c room, CPU struggled to hit 70c and chipset temps dropped 5c. I was able to lower fan speeds in the fan profile and during stress testing it never exceeded 85% fan speed. With relaxed sound profile 72c is the ceiling.
At this rate, the only time the chipset fan is ever going to come on is during startup

Fan list
Thermatake S300 case
Fuma 2
Exhaust fan rear - Antec TrueQuiet 140 140mm
Exhaust fan top - Cooler Master MF200R 200mm
Intake fan - Arctic Cooling P14 140mm (Will likely swap out this one. Not liking the sound profile once it spins up)
Seasonic GM-650
EVGA RTX2060

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ozzy702

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If any of your are running an Asrock x470 taichi and 3000 series CPU, what ram are you running and at what speeds? A buddy of mine just picked up an x470 taichi and wants to pop a 3900X in it and was asking for memory suggestions for a 32gb kit (2 or 4 sticks).

All the memory info from Asrock is for Pinnacle Ridge and doesn't list anything for Matisse. Thanks guys.
 
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aigomorla

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32gb kit (2 or 4 sticks).
always get 2 sticks and not 4.
The marginal tighter timings are not worth it IMO, over having the possibility to expand more ram should you ever need it.
 

Ajay

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always get 2 sticks and not 4.
The marginal tighter timings are not worth it IMO, over having the possibility to expand more ram should you ever need it.
4x sticks get better bandwidth, with 2x one can get better timings (manually). Marginal gains, as you say, either way for most stuff.
 
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aigomorla

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4x sticks get better bandwidth, with 2x one can get better timings (manually). Marginal gains, as you say, either way for most stuff.
are you sure? That's not how i remember it, unless its changed.

Because to my knowledge 8gb sticks will always have better timings then 16gb sticks.
Also just by nature of 8gb sticks, they overclock slightly better, so its easier to get even better timings off 4 x 8gb sticks then 2 x 16gb sticks.

However the difference is marginal in performance and not even really that noticeable, unless your going after world records and trying to break them ever so by the millisecond.

Also 16gb sticks will have a heck of a lot better resale value, if you decide to go down that route, not to mention they are better recyclable onto the next system, which makes 16gb sticks a heck of a lot better in value.

The only thing i don't see worth it is if you don't pair ram up... like getting a single 32gb over 2 x 16gb, as i know you can get a noticeable performance decrease, not to mention its best to get factory paired ram for compatibility reasons.
 

B-Riz

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Well, the pandemic made this active again (I am stuck work from home all summer).

Looks like there is a new run of 1800X's. Ordered one from Amazon, and now Newegg has them too.

Got a Noctua NM-AM4-L9aL9i to use the Scythe Mugen 2 Rev B on it also.

Grabbed some Crucial 3600 DDR4, maybe above 3200 is possible?

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DrMrLordX

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Grabbed some Crucial 3600 DDR4, maybe above 3200 is possible?
That's . . . interesting. I wonder if these chips are actually Pinnacle Ridge like the 1600AF? FWIW my old launch day 1800x was able to do DDR4-3466 with b-die (DDR4-3733).
 

PingSpike

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That's a little interesting. Hadn't the 1800x disappeared? I'd expect their to still be some Zen1 stuff floating around just for OEM obligations but top of the stack parts wouldn't likely be that. I've said they should start pumping out more 12nm stuff to take the wind out of Intel's sales a bit on the low end. Obviously more 7nm stuff would be better but there's only so much 7nm.
 

scineram

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That could be some nice margin and market share padding for AMD looking at that price.
Meanwhile A520 ITX boards disappeared from local webstores. Only B550 available almost twice the price. There goes my Cézanne build.
 
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Wow, so convenient to have a micro center in reach. The above prices are ridiculous to my eye. Just checked I can get a 3700x for $280 right now if I wanted it.
 
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B-Riz

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Wow, so convenient to have a micro center in reach. The above prices are ridiculous to my eye. Just checked I can gate a 3700x for $280 right now if I wanted it.
Well, if the pandemic didn't happen, I doubt AMD would have made a production run of these, and I could walk into Best Buy and get a 3100, 3300X, 3600 or some kind of Zen3 APU for $200 or less...
 

B-Riz

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That's a little interesting. Hadn't the 1800x disappeared? I'd expect their to still be some Zen1 stuff floating around just for OEM obligations but top of the stack parts wouldn't likely be that. I've said they should start pumping out more 12nm stuff to take the wind out of Intel's sales a bit on the low end. Obviously more 7nm stuff would be better but there's only so much 7nm.
These have to be a new production run, will know Friday what the lot date is.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Prices are crazy right now. I'm still using a 1700X (at 3.8Ghz all-core clocks) for my main rig, and they're selling for nearly $200 used still. I've thought about just outright buying a 3800X(T) just to extend my platform a bit longer and sell the 1700X's while the market is pretty toasty to make up some of the difference.
 

Makaveli

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Prices are crazy right now. I'm still using a 1700X (at 3.8Ghz all-core clocks) for my main rig, and they're selling for nearly $200 used still. I've thought about just outright buying a 3800X(T) just to extend my platform a bit longer and sell the 1700X's while the market is pretty toasty to make up some of the difference.
You are right about prices staying high.

I sold my 3800X for $400 CAD at the end of jan.
 
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B-Riz

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Well, the pandemic made this active again (I am stuck work from home all summer).

Looks like there is a new run of 1800X's. Ordered one from Amazon, and now Newegg has them too.

Got a Noctua NM-AM4-L9aL9i to use the Scythe Mugen 2 Rev B on it also.

Grabbed some Crucial 3600 DDR4, maybe above 3200 is possible?

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That was a bust, wrong item was binned, lol.
 

JimKiler

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I know I should ask in the mobo or RAM sub topic but I have had a TUF Gaming X570 motherboard + Ryzen 3800X and I have had G.Skill Ripjaw V 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3600 PC4-28800 CL19 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit F4-3600C19D-32GVRB .

Now occasionally when I resume from hibernation I get a black screen and i would have to hold the power button to reset it. I realized the last few times my mobo light was showing red for the CPU. Should i be concerned my CPU is dying or is it more likely something is not initialized properly? I am not overclocking anything but the DOCP for my RAM to run at 3600Hz.

I happens less than once a month but I would like to get it more stable. I don't think it is an issue once windows is going but i can run some more stability tests to confirm.
 

Makaveli

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I know I should ask in the mobo or RAM sub topic but I have had a TUF Gaming X570 motherboard + Ryzen 3800X and I have had G.Skill Ripjaw V 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3600 PC4-28800 CL19 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit F4-3600C19D-32GVRB .

Now occasionally when I resume from hibernation I get a black screen and i would have to hold the power button to reset it. I realized the last few times my mobo light was showing red for the CPU. Should i be concerned my CPU is dying or is it more likely something is not initialized properly? I am not overclocking anything but the DOCP for my RAM to run at 3600Hz.

I happens less than once a month but I would like to get it more stable. I don't think it is an issue once windows is going but i can run some more stability tests to confirm.
Are you using the most current bios for your board?
 

JimKiler

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Are you using the most current bios for your board?
No, I am on the second newest build 3603 and I keep checking hoping for a non beta BIOS but I suppose I should give it a whirl. Beta BIOS has been out since April 1st.
 

Makaveli

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No, I am on the second newest build 3603 and I keep checking hoping for a non beta BIOS but I suppose I should give it a whirl. Beta BIOS has been out since April 1st.
I'm on the same bios stay on it. I also avoid beta's!!

Is your system stock any overclocking?

What version of Windows?
 

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