AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[Shlong]

Haha got my new H110i and it boots up at 4GHz 1.375. Won't bench that way just light gaming.

I have the H110i and my 1700 can go to 3.8 ghz at 1.30 (stable). However, my ram 16GB modules F4-3200C16D-32GTZKW won't go past 2666 no matter the timings or voltage. It still runs fine at 2666 so I'm not too mad.

 

[funks]

You can find the option at Advanced -> CPU Configuration -> SVM Mode. It was disabled by default on my board. I installed 2.0 some time ago, and AMD-V still works with VirtualBox.

Same thing for the Gigabyte boards as well - looks like they are disabling it by default now on the BIOS. Was wondering why VMWARE Workstation wasn't working when i flashed the newer BIOS - turning on SVM mode fixed it.

 

[IEC]

Currently testing my 1800X at around 1.23V for a 3.8GHz all-core OC. This seems to be super efficient and cool while giving me performance in-between stock and a 4GHZ OC (which takes ~150mV more vcore).

 

[Phaetos]

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/AMD-Releases-Ryzen-Balanced-Power-Plan-Test-Results-Inside

Anyone else see this about the new Power Plan available from AMD's Blog site?

 

[IEC]

Currently testing my 1800X at around 1.23V for a 3.8GHz all-core OC. This seems to be super efficient and cool while giving me performance in-between stock and a 4GHZ OC (which takes ~150mV more vcore).

No issues so far. Seems to settle at around 57°C (77°C before 20° offset) full load at a 80°F (26.7°C) ambient after 60+ min under AIDA64 Stress Test 100% load on 16 threads + 32GB RAM. This is with only one fan @ 1000rpm on the Noctua D15 in pull configuration. Also threw half a dozen runs each of Cinebench R11.5 and R15 at it, as well as some gameplay. Looks like I found my new 24/7 setting.

 

[guachi]

The BIOS on the Gigabyte 3 gaming is basically worthless, or so it seems.

Ryzen Master, on the other hand, is at least useful once I figured out what some of the fields meant. The program isn't detailed very well at all and the font is miniature.

The Gigabyte BIOS doesn't allow me to set anything regarding the CPU or RAM as far as I can tell. Oh, sure, I can set the XMP profile for the memory to 3200 but all it does is cause the PC to spend extra time rebooting before it resets the memory to 2133.

At a default of 3000 MHz for my 1700 my CPU was at 41.5C after 24 hours straight of Handbrake encoding on an ancient Hyper 212+. That's probably not much different than what the stock cooler would give. And the CPU voltage was at 1.1875v. Cool and quiet.

I set the CPU to 3600 MHz at 1.25v and the memory (3200 16-18-18-36) to 2933 16-18-18-36 in Ryzen Master. It might boot with tighter timings but I don't particularly care.

At 3600 MHz and 1.25v the temperature shot up to 55C.

Also, using the AM4 bracket from Corsair requires the Hyper 212+ to be rotated 90 degrees and have the fans push and/or pull the air out the top. This isn't a bad thing for me as it blows directly into the waiting arms of a top mounted 140mm fan.

Overall, the 1700, even at stock, is a multi-core beast. It's so amazingly cool and quiet at stock that I think it would make a great low-profile SFF machine that could still do great in productivity stuff like a mini-encoding box.

 

[Malogeek]

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/AMD-Releases-Ryzen-Balanced-Power-Plan-Test-Results-Inside

Anyone else see this about the new Power Plan available from AMD's Blog site?

Yeah it was posted one of the other Ryzen thread as well. I'm running it with no issues. Performance is the same for my briefs tests and idle I'm hovering around 5-8w CPU power according to AI Suite. Hits 50w in handbrake on stock 1700.

 

[richierich1212]

The BIOS on the Gigabyte 3 gaming is basically worthless, or so it seems.

In the beginning of my build I used Ryzen Master. But now I just use the BIOS to set the settings. I don't have an issue with my Gigabyte AB-350M-Gaming 3 mATX board. Later on when I get the chance I will post all of the settings I adjust in the BIOS. Hopefully this will help you and others who have Gigabyte boards.

 

[richierich1212]

BIOS settings for my Gigabyte AB-350M-Gaming 3 motherboard BIOS F2 (I use arrow keys and the + or - key with shift to adjust values. Also type in values where applicable):

M.I.T. > Advanced Frequency Settings:
CPU Clock Ratio > 37
Advanced CPU Core Settings: Left these at defaults
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.): Disabled
System Memory Multiplier: 32

M.I.T. > Advanced Memory Settings:

Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.): Disabled
System Memory Multiplier: 32
Memory Timing Mode: Advanced Manual
Channel Interleaving: Auto
Rank Interleaving: Auto
Channel A/B Memory Sub Timings >
Memory Timing Mode: Advanced Manual (For the following I entered in my memory values as stated on their label. Enter yours instead)
CAS Latency: 16
tRCDRD: 16
tRCDWR: 16
tRP: 16
tRAS: 35

M.I.T. > Advanced Voltage Settings:
Dynamic Vcore (DVID): +0.054V (This is offset, enter your own value here)
Dynamic VCORE SOC(DVID): Auto
DRAM Voltage (CH A/B): 1.380V (Enter your own Memory's voltage here. My stock voltage is 1.35v, but since my memory is overclocked I bumped up the voltage a little.)

I hope these settings help you guys.

 

[JimmiG]

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/AMD-Releases-Ryzen-Balanced-Power-Plan-Test-Results-Inside

Anyone else see this about the new Power Plan available from AMD's Blog site?

I tried it. Unfortunately it disables Core Parking which in turn disables Precision Boost / XFR. I tweaked their profile to re-enable this.

AMD Ryzen profile, no parking. CPU Average: 3.7 GHz:

Core Parking enabled, CPU Average: 3980 MHz:

CPU-Z, Core Parking disabled (AMD Ryzen profile):

Core Parking enabled:

Obviously not an issue if you're overclocking, but it's a bit odd that AMD, after marketing XFR so heavily, have completely nullified it with their own update.

 

[Mr Evil]

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/AMD-Releases-Ryzen-Balanced-Power-Plan-Test-Results-Inside

Anyone else see this about the new Power Plan available from AMD's Blog site?

A power plan intended to balance performance against power consumption, and yet they only tested performance :/

So, to complement those numbers, I just spent a few seconds to come up with this:

Plan               AC Power/W   CPU Package Power/W
Balanced           56           14.6
Ryzen Balanced     60           16.6
High Performance   60           16.6

Measurements were taken at idle. "CPU Package Power" is what HWiNFO reports, and is probably a bit higher than the true idle power because HWiNFO itself puts a small load on the CPU. "AC Power" was measured at the wall with my cheap power meter.

 

[mmaenpaa]

I tried it. Unfortunately it disables Core Parking which in turn disables Precision Boost / XFR. I tweaked their profile to re-enable this.

AMD Ryzen profile, no parking. CPU Average: 3.7 GHz:

Core Parking enabled, CPU Average: 3980 MHz:

CPU-Z, Core Parking disabled (AMD Ryzen profile):

Core Parking enabled:

Obviously not an issue if you're overclocking, but it's a bit odd that AMD, after marketing XFR so heavily, have completely nullified it with their own update.

Can you show the tweaks you made?

Markku

 

[Chiropteran]

What is the impact of having AMD Cool & Quiet on or off on a Ryzen system?

My understanding based on previous CPU is a very small (maybe 1%) performance penalty for cooler running when idle. Is that still the case? Have any sites specifically compared results with it on or off?

Or is this one of those things that is disabled as soon as you start overclocking?

 

[DrMrLordX]

As soon as you go into OC mode, it is disabled.

 

[Crono]

Look what came in.

I'm missing a few non-essential parts (the bracket for liquid cooler and the case fans I want to use) so I wont have the R5 build fully complete for a week or so, but I should be able to at least test and OC it tonight.

 

[Markfw]

Well, I got my NH-15 today for my 1700x, and installed it , and the good 3200 memory. While trying to fit the fans on in a tight case, I dropped the entire assembled computer from the top of the kitchen counter ! (over 3 feet) But after getting the fans "sort of" clipped on, it fired up, and is running@3800 (testing), but the memory was just perfect.

 

[richierich1212]

Well, I got my NH-15 today for my 1700x, and installed it , and the good 3200 memory. While trying to fit the fans on in a tight case, I dropped the entire assembled computer from the top of the kitchen counter ! (over 3 feet) But after getting the fans "sort of" clipped on, it fired up, and is running@3800 (testing), but the memory was just perfect.

Man your heart must've skipped a beat haha.

 

[Markfw]

Man your heart must've skipped a beat haha.

You're not a kidding ! That was like $1500 in hardware !

 

[IEC]

Drop test approved, it's military spec now!

 

[CuriousMike]

ASUS just threw in a new BIOS for Prime B350 Plus, that's two BIOS in two days

A request to those having a Prime B350 Plus. Could you please post back if you were successful running 4 sticks on this new BIOS at 3200 MT/s

I have the Prime B350 Plus, and I just updated to the 0605 bios, assuming it has the 0515 changes rolled into it.

I cannot get my 2-sticks of Samsung b-die to boot at 3200; the machine resets 5 times than comes back with 'overclocking failed' and I restore to 2933.

Are you able to get 2-sticks running at 3200? If so, what are you doing? I'm using the DOCP and then use the 3200 setting. It fails, so I use the 2933 and that works.
I'm touching nothing else in the BIOS.

 

[richierich1212]

I have the Prime B350 Plus, and I just updated to the 0605 bios, assuming it has the 0515 changes rolled into it.

I cannot get my 2-sticks of Samsung b-die to boot at 3200; the machine resets 5 times than comes back with 'overclocking failed' and I restore to 2933.

Are you able to get 2-sticks running at 3200? If so, what are you doing? I'm using the DOCP and then use the 3200 setting. It fails, so I use the 2933 and that works.
I'm touching nothing else in the BIOS.

Have you tried not using DOCP? What's your SOC voltage at?

 

[CuriousMike]

Have you tried not using DOCP? What's your SOC voltage at?

When I first got the mobo, the default was to not use DOCP - I have not tried it with the new BIOS.

Newb alert - what does SOC (voltage) mean?

 

[CuriousMike]

OK, I quickly tried "auto" and the same failure occured.

I found this setting in my bios which I assume is what you mean? (Bottom option, 0.931v AUTO )

 

[Markfw]

My latest update (not sure its final)

1800x stable for 24 hours @ 4 ghz @ 1.4 vcore and 90c (70c real I think)
1700x stable for 4 hours @ 3.8 ghz @ 1.3875 vcore and 95c (75c real I think)

The 1800x is on a Corsair H100i but with dual Darkside Gentle Typhoon Performance Radiator Fans - 2150rpm, 68cfm
The 1700x is on a Noctura NH-D15.

Both are running the PC 3200 memory CAS 14 1T at rated speeds. The 1800x is on a Taichi, and the 1700x is on a AB350 Pro4. Both are also @ 100% load running BOINC and one is also running F@H on a 980TI video card (the 1700x)

 

[unseenmorbidity]

3.8 seems low for a 1700x.