AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[Rifter]

Got my 1700 up to 3.9Ghz stable all cores now. Temps hitting 65-67c after few hours of prime. still at 1.3v set in bios and 1.34-1.36 reported from HW monitor and CPUz. Level 2 LLC.

Im impressed with how well the D15 keeps this chip cool. Especially since considering at stock speed(3.2Ghz) my system was sipping power at 170w drawn from the wall during prime95 testing, and its now up to drawing just over 280w from the wall. So its dealing with alot more power/heat now.

Im going to go for 4Ghz when i get home from work.

This thing was amazingly efficient up till 3.7 or so then it starts to eat power real fast when you push past 3.7.

AMD did a great job with these things.

 

[w3rd]

Interesting....

Also remember that you will never see Samsung E-die on anything larger than 4 GB DIMMS, so if you buy 8 GB DIMMs, you get either D-die (bad) or B-die (good). And as a general rule, anything DDR4-3466 or higher pretty much has to be Samsung B. Nobody else makes ICs that reliably clock that high.

When is Crucial getting into the game..?

 

[richierich1212]

Yup 3.7GHz is my sweet spot for speed/power consumption. It's crazy how much more power is needed once you go over 1.3v

 

[Valantar]

Updated post to include cheapest cards that also have mail in rebates. Keep in mind you can unlock more compute units/stream processors on some (maybe all, haven't kept up since I first heard about it) of the RX 460s. Don't know if your kids will need the extra horsepower, but it might be fun for you to do, anyway, and it's free performance so why not.

... but if you do that, keep in mind that it excludes you from any driver updates from Crimson ReLive and newer (they require a signed BIOS).

 

[fleshconsumed]

FYI, heads up. Apparently Microcenter is currently advertising 1700 at $100 off when you purchase one with compatible motherboards.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/476005/Ryzen_7_1700_30_GHz_8_Core_AM4_Boxed_Processor_with_Wraith_Spire_Cooler

Steal of a deal if you happen to have Microcenter nearby and they have motherboard in stock that you want.

 

[Malogeek]

FYI, heads up. Apparently Microcenter is currently advertising 1700 at $100 off when you purchase one with compatible motherboards.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/476005/Ryzen_7_1700_30_GHz_8_Core_AM4_Boxed_Processor_with_Wraith_Spire_Cooler

Wow that's a crazy good deal.

 

[thepaleobiker]

FYI, heads up. Apparently Microcenter is currently advertising 1700 at $100 off when you purchase one with compatible motherboards.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/476005/Ryzen_7_1700_30_GHz_8_Core_AM4_Boxed_Processor_with_Wraith_Spire_Cooler

Steal of a deal if you happen to have Microcenter nearby and they have motherboard in stock that you want.

I was about to post that same PSA here

 

[IEC]

New *BETA* BIOSes out from Gigabyte for their K7, Gaming 5, K5, and Gaming 3 motherboards:
http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/886/am4-beta-bios-thread

First AGESA 1.0.0.4 update spotted AFAIK. Since not everyone is brave (or foolish ) enough I'm going to flash it on my Gaming 3... for science.

 

[guskline]

Thanks for the Info IEC. I'm sticking with the release 1002 for my Asus C6H. My MSI X370 XPOWER Titanium is back with MSI on a RMA. I'll see what it does when it is returned. I really like this C6H so the MSI will probably be sold.

 

[hondaman]

FYI, heads up. Apparently Microcenter is currently advertising 1700 at $100 off when you purchase one with compatible motherboards.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/476005/Ryzen_7_1700_30_GHz_8_Core_AM4_Boxed_Processor_with_Wraith_Spire_Cooler

Steal of a deal if you happen to have Microcenter nearby and they have motherboard in stock that you want.

Wow that figures. I bought mine YESTERDAY (1700 + taichi) and only got $50.00 off. >:|

 

[IEC]

Flashed to latest beta BIOS on my Gaming 3. It still hates my G.Skill FlareX 3200 8GB sticks and refuses to boot at speeds > 2400. One or two other things I have left to try out before I give up (Taichi coming in a few days anyways ).

At least now properly works with XMP settings on my G.Skill single rank 8GB DDR4-2400 sticks. Check out the latency reduction from AGESA 1.0.0.4 + running at proper timings...

F5 BIOS result (102ns):

F6g BIOS result (88ns):

 

[Crono]

Thanks for the Info IEC. I'm sticking with the release 1002 for my Asus C6H. My MSI X370 XPOWER Titanium is back with MSI on a RMA. I'll see what it does when it is returned. I really like this C6H so the MSI will probably be sold.

I did that with my TItanium, ended up selling it for $280. It's a nice board and I had no issues with it, but it's definitely overpriced (you can tell by how many features they advertise are just fluff). $200 or even $250 would have been a fair MSRP, given its competition.

The Crosshair VI Hero's has a ton of features, but it's killer feature is the AM3 bracket mount support. All motherboard manufacturers should have done that. Really happy with my C6H assuming (knock on wood) ASUS doesn't put out any brick-y BIOS'. 1001 and now 1002 have been working fine for me.

 

[richierich1212]

Darn no BIOS update for the lil Gigabyte mATX board yet! Can't wait to see latencies drop for me too.

Do you guys think the lower latencies will help with gaming on Ryzen?

 

[Rifter]

Hey whats the max temp these ryzens will reach before they throttle?

 

[DisEnchantment]

Darn no BIOS update for the lil Gigabyte mATX board yet! Can't wait to see latencies drop for me too.

Do you guys think the lower latencies will help with gaming on Ryzen?

I think low 70s will be possible in the future with 3400 MT/s.
My 1700X is showing 82-83 ns on with Tridentz 3200 right now. with the 6 ns BIOS + higher frequencies low 70s ns should be achievable.
But I think Ryzen benefit more from increased RAM speed than reduced latency.
I saw a couple of videos on YouTube with 3400 running, albeit with some tweaking.
There are many videos related to fps gains due to increased RAM speed.

This video is one of many. However I dont game myself. Last game I played was Uncharted 4 on PS4. Before that Witcher 3. I have Rise of Tomb Raider on my PS4 but I watched too many videos on Youtube that I dont wanna play anymore since I know how the game will turn out to be.

EDIT: sorry I saw the question about specifically about the latencies and most likely it is wont help much. none of my applications I am developing benefit from reduced latency.

 

[Agent-47]

Darn no BIOS update for the lil Gigabyte mATX board yet! Can't wait to see latencies drop for me too.

Do you guys think the lower latencies will help with gaming on Ryzen?

Sorry if you mentioned it before, what ram you have got and what speed? Is it the b350m gaming 3?

 

[IEC]

I was already achieving 75ns with DDR4-3200 CL14 on AGESA 1.0.0.3 (on the $79 MSI B350M Gaming Pro) so it should be ~68-69ns once I get my hands on the next MSI BIOS update incorporating 1.0.0.4.

 

[IEC]

One thing I forgot to mention about the Gigabyte Gaming 3 board and failed memory settings - it will turn on --> train memory --> turn off and do this cycle four times, then finally boot on the 5th cycle. If it goes longer than that you need to power off and reset CMOS. It's a little disconcerting at first until you get used to it.

 

[EXCellR8]

still can't reboot and continue to get video from DP on the RX 480... only DVI allows the computer to boot up

 

[funks]

So you have your SSD's plugged into Sata port 0 and 1? Are those Asata 0 and 1 or the stardard Sata 0 and 1? I also dont have any M.2 drives to test out just standard Sata SSD's and a DVDr Drive.Also where in the world did you get Bios F6D? I am only seeing F5 on Gigabytes main site. I noticed that F5b got pulled and is no longer available.

BIOS F6G is out for the AB350-GAMING-3

http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/886/am4-beta-bios-thread

On the MOBO, the CPU SATA ports are marked as "ASATA0, and ASATA1" - the CHIPSET ports are marked as "SATA0,SATA1,SATA2,SATA3)". I have my three SSD's and one BluRaySATA writer plugged into the chipset ports (SATA0,SATA1,SATA2,SATA3). I'm not using the ASATA0, and ASATA1 ports - additionally, got it disabled on the BIOS as well.

If one ends up using an M2 NVME drive that's PCIeX4 - then the ASATA0, and ASATA1 can't be used, my opinion is that if you have up to 4 SATA drives, then might as well use the SATA0,1,2,3 ports then disable the ASATA ports on the BIOS. There's no speed difference between the two sets of ports.

 

[shaggy77]

The $100 off at Mircocenter is for the 1700X not the 1700, The 1700 with cooler only has $50 off. Still a pretty good deal. Personally, I am just going to wait and see where the cards fall with all of this. My current machine is an i5-6600K with a Z170 board. If MC drops the price of the i7-7700k, I think I will drop one of those CPUs in and call it a day. If not, I will have to really think about selling what I have to go to AMD again. AMD has not been a primary rig build for almost 10 years now. The last one was a the venable Barton XP 2500 OCed to 3200 spec with an ATI X850XT Pro AGP card. That system still ran as a secondary rig for almost another 2 o 3 years before part out. I digress.

 

[richierich1212]

Sorry if you mentioned it before, what ram you have got and what speed? Is it the b350m gaming 3?

I have the G. Skill Ripjaws 4 2x8GB 3000 F4-3000C15D-16GRBB that I bought before Ryzen was released because DDR4 prices were going up quickly. Yes, Gigabyte AB-350M-Gaming 3 mATX motherboard.

 

[Rifter]

So im meeting some resistance from my CPU @4ghz.

Ive tried Upping voltage to 1.35v in bios with level 2 LLC(reported as 1.38-1.4 by cpuZ), and the SOC voltage to 1v, and that gets it stable enough to game and benchmark but crashes after 10-20 min of prime95 in place Large FFT's(passes hour of prime95 blend no crashes). It also ups total system power consumption up another 20w over 3.9Ghz, and temps a few degrees C.

I think if i throw more voltage at it i can probably get it to 4 - 4.1 but it seems like this is just not worth it over 3.9Ghz. Its a pretty steep wall @4ghz with these I think thats my chips sweet spot, it likes it at 3.9Ghz.

Im probably going to leave it at 3.9Ghz for now, and focus on getting my ram as fast as possible once my new ram shows up, which will hopefully be 3600Mhz samsung B dies, should be a week or two and ill have em in my hands to see if i got lucky in the dd4 lottery lol.


Ill wait for a few more bios's over next months and then after i get my new ram dialed in ill give it another go on the CPU, but for now, 3.9Ghz it is.

 

[imported_jjj]

At 3200 CL 14 mem latency results are 72-76ns today for most folks.
Best result i have seen at those clocks and timings was posted in this thread a few days ago at 68.5ns https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/amd-ryzen-builders-thread.2499342/page-105#post-38824772
My expectations are low 60's if not better at 3200MHz when all said and done but might take 3 to 6 months.

 

[Nemesizx]

Interesting observation concerning the pdf vendors memory support list document dated 29th March 2017 for the Asus B350 Plus Motherboard. The document now states that the motherboard has official support for a number of 3600 - 4133mhz memory kits, although the supported speed are currently 2133 - 2400mhz. Although a few 3000, and 3200mhz rated Kits from Corsair and Team are running closer to their optimal speeds with DOCP (XMP) settings at 1.35 - 1.40v in the Bios (Version 0513 23/3/2017). So at least the manufacturer Asus is attempting to clarify and update the memory supported list on a regular basis.

From a personal point of view I've found Bios 0513 provided the ability to tighten and improve the timings on my Crucial Ballistix Sport 2400mhz from 16-16-16-39 1.2v to 14-14-14-36 1.25v without crashing. So a modest overclock.