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lightmanek

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@lightmanek

Is CPU-z showing 1.4v, or is that just the value you've got plugged in to Ryzen Master/the UEFI?
It's set volts, real under load is more like 1.387v

I've updated CB15 thread with my best so far 4.4/4.6 IF1866 run.
Can't get 1900 with 4 sticks so far and need to do more testing to figure out if my 3600MHz memory kit is failing or IF. I will try 2 stick runs later to see what is going on there.
 

DrMrLordX

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The highest I will go is 1.344v. 1.387v isn't that much higher, but you still might want to back that down a little. Really 1.325v during heavy loads is as high as people should normally get.
 

lightmanek

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The highest I will go is 1.344v. 1.387v isn't that much higher, but you still might want to back that down a little. Really 1.325v during heavy loads is as high as people should normally get.
Thanks for your advice but think you are confusing 24/7 with my suicide runs for fun. :)

No need to worry.
I've been overclocking CPUs since MOS 6502 (yes, resonator solder mod on 8 bit machine) and have some basic EE knowledge taken from technical studies in that subject. I see no issue pushing even 1.5V for short runs as long as it is properly cooled.

When comes to daily, I will stick to 1.2 - 1.33V range as you say, but not because I worry about my CPU (I don't) but simply because this is closer to efficiency curve on these CPUs when you push for high clocks.

I just need to back off 50MHz on each chiplet to drop voltages to 1.34V, loose 1-2% performance and save 40W under load.

I've mentioned before, my daily clock will be stock with tweaked memory or 4.2GHz 1.2V depending o tasks I will do.
 

viivo

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How bad are these power reporting deviation numbers?

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That's after being at full load; clocks at stock and a little undervolting. For you personally, would that be enough to warrant a different motherboard, or am I misreading it? The minimum is always 88.9% after fully loading the CPU.

edit for verbosity: CINEBENCH USED FOR LOAD STATE IS IMPLIED.
 
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lightmanek

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How bad are these power reporting deviation numbers?

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That's after being at full load; clocks at stock and a little undervolting. For you personally, would that be enough to warrant a different motherboard, or am I misreading it? The minimum is always 88.9% after fully loading the CPU.
You have to look at your current reading during CB20 all core load. That figure taken during 100% load is meaningful.
 

DrMrLordX

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Thanks for your advice but think you are confusing 24/7 with my suicide runs for fun. :)
Oh okay. Carry on then!

@JoeRambo

I found that even voltage offsets messed up that value. So yeah it has to be bone stock. It also helps to use an external power meter or (even better) voltmeter to gain some perspective on what kind of power is really in use.
 

lightmanek

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Oh okay. Carry on then!

@JoeRambo

I found that even voltage offsets messed up that value. So yeah it has to be bone stock. It also helps to use an external power meter or (even better) voltmeter to gain some perspective on what kind of power is really in use.
My god! Overclocking R9 with 2 chiplets is like ... twice the fun! Can't even think of endless possibilities TR3990X offers. I would spend weeks on dailing that thing in :D
So far today I've found 100% stable IF/Mem combo with 4 sticks at 3733MHz CL16-16-16 1T and 1866MHz IF. Hopefully during the week I will have time to push that extra 30MHz, but I need to reiterate, my kit is B-die rated for 3600 CL16.

As for clocking, I've found voltage thresholds from which performance degrades and for sure 4.2GHz @1.2V is a bit too low as vDrop goes to 1.16V under load. Pushing it to 1.25V gets me now full crunching power with Auto LL or I can set LL to level 3 and use 1.225V to avoid performance degradation.

 

Noid

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AMD Ryzen™ Chipset Driver Release Notes (2.07.14.327) Highlights
Release Highlights

  • Initial support for AMD Ryzen 4000 G-Series Desktop Processors
  • Driver change details added to release note
  • Windows 10 only Release
Fixed Issues
  • Moving installer window during install process may cause installer window to flicker/move around the screen
Known Issues
  • Installer may fail to launch if executed from a folder name with non-Latin language
    • Workaround: Execute the installer from C:\AMD
  • Manual system restart required for Windows® systems configured with Non-English OS Pack
  • Windows Installer pop-up message may appear during install
  • Installer may not downgrade to older version
    • Workaround: Manually uninstall latest package from control panel and then install older package
Chipset Support
Windows 10
AMD TRX40Yes
AMD X570Yes
AMD B550Yes
AMD X399Yes
AMD X470Yes
AMD B450Yes
AMD X370Yes
AMD B350Yes
AMD A320Yes
Processor Support
Windows 10
1st/2nd/3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ ProcessorsYes
3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Desktop ProcessorsYes
AMD Ryzen™ Desktop Processors with Radeon™ GraphicsYes
AMD Ryzen™ Mobile Processors with Radeon™ GraphicsYes
1st/2nd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Desktop ProcessorsYes
2nd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Desktop ProcessorsYes
7th Gen AMD A-Series ProcessorYes
Package Contents
The AMD Ryzen™ Chipset Driver installation package contains various independent drivers designed to support the following Microsoft® Windows® platforms. Operating System support may vary depending on your specific AMD product
Driver NamePrevious VersionNew VersionChange Details
AMD Ryzen Power Plan5.0.0.06.0.0.3AMD Ryzen 4000 G-Series Desktop Processor Support Added
AMD PCI Device Driver1.0.0.80No Change
AMD I2C Driver1.2.0.102No Change
AMD UART Driver1.2.0.1061.2.0.112Added DFx support. BSOD 133 fixed
AMD GPIO2 Driver2.2.0.1262.2.0.130New program support added
PT GPIO Driver2.0.1.0No Change
AMD PSP Driver4.13.0.0No Change
AMD IOV Driver1.2.0.481.2.0.49Device support list updated
AMD SMBUS Driver5.12.0.38No Change
AMD AS4 ACPI Driver1.2.0.46No Change
AMD SFH I2C Driver1.0.0.86No Change
AMD USB Filter Driver2.1.11.304No Change
AMD SFH Driver1.0.0.3031.0.0.308BSOD and Controller Yellow Bang fixed for few Notebook SKU’s
AMD CIR Driver3.2.4.135No Change
AMD MicroPEP Driver1.0.26.01.0.27.0New program support added

AMD D/L link
 
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Hans Gruber

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I gave up on offset voltage. I was 1.32v stock with offset. It sucked. All core 4175ghz all core is all my chip will do 1.36v CPU-z reading. Ryzen 3600. I may try to bump it down to 1.35v. People should remember the Ryzen chips in stock are usually high 1.39v-1.4v+ under load. Mine is 1.36v non stop with all core 4175mhz 24x7
 

JimKiler

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Anyone know what changed in the latest AMD micro code. I see:

Update AM4 AGESA combo V2 PI 1.0.8.0

Asus added a new BIOS to my TUF Gaming Plus (Wifi) on the 17th.

 
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Makaveli

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I already have this bios downloaded for my board but won't be installing it until tomorrow.

Other than what is listed in the changelog I hasn't really found anything else on the internet about it. I tend to search multiple forums for issues whenever they drop a new bios version before loading them.
 

Kenmitch

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I already have this bios downloaded for my board but won't be installing it until tomorrow.

Other than what is listed in the changelog I hasn't really found anything else on the internet about it. I tend to search multiple forums for issues whenever they drop a new bios version before loading them.
If you use Ryzen Master you'll need to uninstall it and reinstall it after every uEFI update.
 

DrMrLordX

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How odd. Especially with Zen3 coming out in a few months. Though I suppose software optimizations for Zen2 should carry over pretty well to Zen3.
 

Kenmitch

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How odd. Especially with Zen3 coming out in a few months. Though I suppose software optimizations for Zen2 should carry over pretty well to Zen3.
Isn't that the Dram Calculator guy? It does say that it's his global project and nothing about being AMD's.
 

DrMrLordX

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Interesting. I wonder if those of us who are already using "undervolting" will benefit from the tool.
 

MalVeauX

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Hi all,

I think I'm set on finally upgrading my old platform which means new motherboard, new CPU and new memory. And the Ryzen 3000 series seems to be a great performance per cost ratio place at the moment. My purpose is for workstation work, not gaming, so stability with plenty of throughput and speed is the goal. I crunch large amounts of data, transcode, encode, etc, massive files in the 4Gb~100Gb range at a time, and the software I use benefits highly from both single core performance and multi-threaded performance, so I need best of both worlds in that sense.

I'm thinking of the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X CPU.

Looking for advice on a matching board and memory for a budget of around $750 total. I'm thinking of: Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite or maybe the ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus? Was looking at Corsair Vengeance 32Gb (16x2) DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 memory. Suggestions to improve in this price range?

Very best,
 

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