AMD Q3 results: even worse than revised expectations

[Kippa]

They sure did cripple HD78xx. Also the usage of heavy compute cards for regular consumers is a joke. I would rather have 5-10% faster gaming experience than 50-100% faster compute.

If you want to compute, buy a card made for it. Then you also avoid the silly things with your "pro" gaming card that throttle or overheat under compute.

The current new Nvidia gaming card could easly be used for compute from a technical point of view. The thing that pisses me of is that they deliberalty crippled it forcing people to buy the more expensive "pro" cards. Apart from the forced crippling I doubt there would be any other major difference between the gaming card and the pro compute one.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The current new Nvidia gaming card could easly be used for compute from a technical point of view. The thing that pisses me of is that they deliberalty crippled it forcing people to buy the more expensive "pro" cards. Apart from the forced crippling I doubt there would be any other major difference between the gaming card and the pro compute one.

They crippled it as much as AMD crippled the HD78xx cards. GK104 wasnt supposed to be the highend. But its performance made it otherwise.

 

[Keysplayr]

Reviews! now stop being pedantic and narrow.

Redundant.
Which reviews?

 

[Final8ty]

Redundant.
Which reviews?

Your being just as silly now as much as your first comment.
I can see what its being used for and i like it.
I wont entertain your childishness any more.

 

[Keysplayr]

Your being just as silly now as much as your first comment.
I can see what its being used for and i like it.
I wont entertain your childishness any more.

Suit yourself. If you won't answer, I can't make you.

 

[Final8ty]

Suit yourself. If you won't answer, I can't make you.

Your comments don't even warrant one when you sink to the level of if you don't have it then you cant have an opinion on it.

I cant run SSAA in dx10/dx11 forced through CCC with my cards but im looking forwards to it when i upgrade, but hey what do i know of it.
Games using compute run better on the new AMD cards but hey that's all false because i don't own one and all the reviews, articles, benches and user input are false and i will find out for myself how false it all is when i upgrade right Keysplayr and ofcourse you own the AMD cards yourself seeing as that's your own made-up prerequisite for discussion.

 

[sontin]

Games using compute run better on the new AMD cards but hey that's all false because i don't own one and all the reviews, articles, benches and user input are false[...]

It's the opposite.

 

[Final8ty]

It's the opposite.

LOL.

 

[sontin]

LOL.

I find it not funny that even AMD's compute architecture is losing to nVidia "oh they crippled the compute part" chip. :'(

 

[Final8ty]

I find it not funny that even AMD's compute architecture is losing to nVidia "oh they crippled the compute part" chip. :'(

We are talking consumer parts here as it seems you lost the context.
So the latest NV consumer cards are better at compute and are faster in the games that use it, damn all those reviews, articles, benches and user input are all paid off then.

 

[sontin]

We are talking consumer parts here as it seems you lost the context.
So the latest NV consumer cards are better at compute and are faster in the games that use it, damn all those reviews, articles, benches and user input are all paid off then.

All reviews are showing it - Dragon Age 2, Deux Ex 3, Shogun 2, Dirt:2 and Dirt:3 for example. They using all Compute and yet the GTX680 is faster than the 7970.

 

[Final8ty]

All reviews are showing it - Dragon Age 2, Deux Ex 3, Shogun 2, Dirt:2 and Dirt:3 for example. They using all Compute and yet the GTX680 is faster than the 7970.

You have a link that they are using compute ?
And i notice that they are all the old games before the 7xxx which would indicate light usage of compute so that does not change the facts and is no difference than sticking to below 1080P and no AA to show the 660 as being just as powerful as the equivalent priced AMD card.

 

[notty22]

This caught my attention.
Nvidia released cuda 5 this week.

GCN is more a buzzword than anything effecting pc use. Most AMD users have to turn off flash hardware acceleration !

And posters in the console thread believe that a new chip design/new features/ new software is being readied to be put in next gen consoles ?

Rival Advanced Micro Devices (NYSE:AMD) funded and started the Heterogeneous System Architecture foundation earlier this year and was joined by many big names on the project but unlike NVidia, the foundation has not yet released any documentation or usable developer tools.

 

[mrmt]

GCN is more a buzzword than anything effecting pc use. Most AMD users have to turn off flash hardware acceleration

We are seeing the OpenCL movie all over again. AMD started trumping OpenCL as an alternative to Cuda more than a year before they had working OpenCL drivers. Now they are trumping HSA well before they have working developer tools. Even worse, they have not even HSA native hardware.

 

[sontin]

You have a link that they are using compute ?
And i notice that they are all the old games before the 7xxx which would indicate light usage of compute so that does not change the facts.

Every game from the list uses DirectCompute for effects. They all "Gaming Evolved" titles. And what is "light usage"? Sleeping Dogs is a few months old and the GTX680 is faster without SSAA but with DirectCompute...

And "Old games"? I mean Crysis 2 looks much better than Sniper Elite 2...

 

[Keysplayr]

You have a link that they are using compute ?
And i notice that they are all the old games before the 7xxx which would indicate light usage of compute so that does not change the facts and is no difference than sticking to below 1080P and no AA to show the 660 as being just as powerful as the equivalent priced AMD card.

I recall asking you for sources first and you blew it off.

Final8ty - "Matter of opinion because i would rather keep the compute and its being used for games."

Sontin - "Every game from the list "(Dragon Age 2, Deux Ex 3, Shogun 2, Dirt:2 and Dirt:3)" uses DirectCompute for effects. They all "Gaming Evolved" titles. And what is "light usage"? Sleeping Dogs is a few months old and the GTX680 is faster without SSAA but with DirectCompute..."

Now do you see why I questioned you to begin with? It makes perfect sense to question what you said, and also to ask for sources. It also makes sense how "huffy" you got with your posts. You had no data to present. Which is fine because it tells the tale, but please don't be rude.

 

[NIGELG]

This thread has more Nvidia fanboys circling like vultures over AMD's apparently dying carcass than anything else.Lots of gloating and glee I see....disguised as sympathy and sadness but very poorly disguised.

The amount of falsehoods being claimed in this thread is alarming.The 7970 Ghz is faster than the 680 GTX...or am I reading wrong?


Why would one want to see one GPU and CPU player only is beyond comprehension.

 

[Final8ty]

Every game from the list uses DirectCompute for effects. They all "Gaming Evolved" titles. And what is "light usage"? Sleeping Dogs is a few months old and the GTX680 is faster without SSAA but with DirectCompute...

And "Old games"? I mean Crysis 2 looks much better than Sniper Elite 2...

Im talking about the new games Showdown and onwards using compute, in not asking about looks or any other aspect that you have brought in.

In compute heavy tasks the new AMD consumer cards outperform the new NV consumer cards, the old "Gaming Evolved" titles would not be compute heavy just as the tessellations would not be.

 

[Final8ty]

I recall asking you for sources first and you blew it off.

Final8ty - "Matter of opinion because i would rather keep the compute and its being used for games."

Sontin - "Every game from the list "(Dragon Age 2, Deux Ex 3, Shogun 2, Dirt:2 and Dirt:3)" uses DirectCompute for effects. They all "Gaming Evolved" titles. And what is "light usage"? Sleeping Dogs is a few months old and the GTX680 is faster without SSAA but with DirectCompute..."

Now do you see why I questioned you to begin with? It makes perfect sense to question what you said, and also to ask for sources. It also makes sense how "huffy" you got with your posts. You had no data to present. Which is fine because it tells the tale, but please don't be rude.

I don't need one when it comes to opinions and common accepted facts.
Even Sontin has been more worthwhile than you have.

And i have already explained the situation and i notice that you had not replied to last thing i have said to you and your just bandwagon jumping.

 

[Final8ty]

This thread has more Nvidia fanboys circling like vultures over AMD's apparently dying carcass than anything else.Lots of gloating and glee I see....disguised as sympathy and sadness but very poorly disguised.

The amount of falsehoods being claimed in this thread is alarming.The 7970 Ghz is faster than the 680 GTX...or am I reading wrong?


Why would one want to see one GPU and CPU player only is beyond comprehension.

Indeed but they are bias blinded.

 

[Keysplayr]

Indeed but they are bias blinded.

THEY?!? This is hysterical.

 

[Keysplayr]

I don't need one when it comes to opinions and common accepted facts.
Even Sontin has been more worthwhile than you have.

And i have already explain the situation and i notice that you had not replied to last thing i have said to you and your just bandwagon jumping.

Oh. You don't need one. That explains everything, thanks.
I think maybe if you want cooperation and me to reply to the last thing you said to me, then maybe you should reply to the FIRST thing I asked you in the beginning. Two way street and I asked you first and you refused to comply. Amiright?
And besides, Sontin already MORE than addressed your baseless claim.

 

[Final8ty]

Oh. You don't need one. That explains everything, thanks.
I think maybe if you want cooperation and me to reply to the last thing you said to me, then maybe you should reply to the FIRST thing I asked you in the beginning. Two way street and I asked you first and you refused to comply. Amiright?

I already did reply, don't talk as if i had not, it was a silly comment that you made and why should i need to have a 7xxx card as if its intrinsic for the aspect of discussion when we all can see reviews, articles, benches and user input, because that puts you in the same boat which contradicts your point.

 

[Final8ty]

And besides, Sontin already MORE than addressed your baseless claim.

No he did not when he limited to older titles that naturally would not be heavy in compute.

 

[Keysplayr]

I already did reply, don't talk as if i had not, it was a silly comment that you made and why should i need to have a 7xxx card to-as if its intrinsic for the aspect of discussion when we all can see reviews, articles, benches and user input.

You gave not a single source to your claim. It's all I asked for. And what I'm STILL asking for. You won't do it because you have nothing. If you have something, show it. What's the prob?