AMD Q3 results: even worse than revised expectations

[Keysplayr]

No he did not when he limited to older titles that naturally would not be heavy in compute.

There you see?! Makes perfect sense for you to refute the bald faced lies he made with sources of your own! Let's have em!

 

[Final8ty]

You gave not a single source to your claim. It's all I asked for. And what I'm STILL asking for. You won't do it because you have nothing. If you have something, show it. What's the prob?

I have not given a single source to my claim because it common accepted knowledge already and your just being pedantic for the sake of it and i have noticed since AMD cards having started to pull more and more ahead you have become increasingly more so.

http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/546/bench/Showdown_02.png

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/graphics/msi-n680gtx-lightning/08_sniper.png

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/scree...eeping-Dogs-GPUs-1920-SSAA-FXAA-PCGH-v1.1.png

 

[KompuKare]

Why would one want to see one GPU and CPU player only is beyond comprehension.

Turkeys & christmas, perhaps? Maybe the difference being that for some people, Nvidia or Intel are their special friends and once neither has much competition left they will get a medal - or maybe its more like a golden pricetag?

 

[Keysplayr]

I have not given a single source to my claim because it common accepted knowledge already and your just being pedantic for the sake of it and i have notice since AMD cards having started to pull more and more ahead you have becoming increasingly more so.

http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/546/bench/Showdown_02.png

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/graphics/msi-n680gtx-lightning/08_sniper.png

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/scree...eeping-Dogs-GPUs-1920-SSAA-FXAA-PCGH-v1.1.png

Cute. Now link to the articles these came from. The third link states "No deeplinking Please".

 

[Final8ty]

There you see?! Makes perfect sense for you to refute the bald faced lies he made with sources of your own! Let's have em!

Nope as he did not lie, that fact is NV are better in those older titles, but just because there is some aspect of compute in them it does not make that said gfx card better at compute.

 

[Final8ty]

Cute. Now link to the articles these came from. The third link states "No deeplinking Please".

Hot linking would be if the image was displayed here which it is not and i have made my point and it was not worth re hosting what everyone already knows and your semantics are of no value to the point.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I have not given a single source to my claim because it common accepted knowledge already and your just being pedantic for the sake of it and i have notice since AMD cards having started to pull more and more ahead you have becoming increasingly more so.

http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/546/bench/Showdown_02.png

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/graphics/msi-n680gtx-lightning/08_sniper.png

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/scree...eeping-Dogs-GPUs-1920-SSAA-FXAA-PCGH-v1.1.png

Interesting.

And the same applies in lower resolutions that doesnt depend on the faster memory bus?
http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/565/bench/Showdown_01.png

Plus its an evolved game.

And why is the HD7870 in front of the GTX680 if it was by compute power? They write they use DXCompute:

So in the end, isnt it just about one maker using optimzied drivers and the other aint?

AMD didnt perform as overwhelming at the launch:

 

[Final8ty]

Interesting.

This link however basicly contracdicts your "theory".
http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/565/bench/Dirt3_1.png

Yes the much lower resolution situation that i had already brought up, i will get rid of my NEC's 2560x1600 so i can buy that NV card that is weaker at 2560x1600 and play at 1680.

EDIT: Im not interested in synthetics, there is no satisfaction in it for me.

 

[Jaydip]

Who uses compute mostly?Yes the professional guys and sadly AMD's new lineup gets hammered by NV's 2 year old quadro.AMD is winning in those games not because of compute but they worked closely with the developers.When a 660Ti beats 7970 in BL2 people can't say 660Ti is better than 7970.It all depends on the implementation.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Yes the much lower resolution situation that i had already brought up, i will get rid of my NEC's 2560x1600 so can buy that NV card that is weaker at 2560x1600 and play at 1680.

EDIT: Im not interested in systematics, there is not satisfaction in it for me.

The point is you make up BS to try and prove a point thats false.

Lets recap again:

Compute performance? I dont think so.

 

[Final8ty]

Who uses compute mostly?Yes the professional guys and sadly AMD's new lineup gets hammered by NV's 2 year old quadro.AMD is winning in those games not because of compute but they worked closely with the developers.When a 660Ti beats 7970 in BL2 people can't say 660Ti is better than 7970.It all depends on the implementation.

Most here are interested in gaming aspects of the card and if compute helps out then im all for it and OpenCL.

 

[Final8ty]

The point is you make up BS to try and prove a point thats false.


Compute performance? I dont think so.

Right the 680 is ahead of the 7970 ? in your link.
And at my res.
http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/565/bench/Showdown_03.png

 

[ShintaiDK]

Right the 680 is ahead of the 7970 ?

You dont listen. And I wouldnt expect you to either.

The HD7870 doesnt hold any advantage to the GTX670 in terms of memory, performance or compute. Yet its faster.

Compute bogus.

 

[Jaydip]

Most here are interested in gaming aspects of the card and if compute helps out then im all for it and OpenCL.

Compute is not helping anything.The only thing that helps is called "dev relations". The new pro cards from AMD has better theoretical performance compared to NV's old quadro yet it loses why?They worked with devs and hence the superior performance simple.

 

[Final8ty]

You dont listen. And I wouldnt expect you to either.

The HD7870 doesnt hold any advantage to the GTX670 in terms of memory, performance or compute. Yet its faster.

Compute bogus.

Right are you saying the 6xx is better at compute than the 7xxx, yes or no ?
And rememberer its in relation to my res and what i use and it would not be any of the mid range cards.

 

[Final8ty]

Compute is not helping anything.The only thing that helps is called "dev relations". The new pro cards from AMD has better theoretical performance compared to NV's old quadro yet it loses why?They worked with devs and hence the superior performance simple.

I'm not interested in the slightest about pro cards, i have stated already.

 

[Jaydip]

I'm not interested in the slightest about pro cards, i have stated already.

Then compute is very much irrelevant atm.

 

[Final8ty]

Then compute is very much irrelevant atm.

That's not what i asked.

 

[Jaydip]

So what did you ask?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Right are you saying the 6xx is better at compute than the 7xxx, yes or no ?
And rememberer its in relation to my res and what i use and it would not be any of the mid range cards.

HD78xx is just as "crippled" as Kepler. The only time your "compute BS" can be true would be for HD79xx.

 

[Final8ty]

So what did you ask?

Im talking about consumer cards and the only people claiming that compute is not helping out are the NV card owners because if we play at this resolution the shortcoming are not apparent.

 

[Final8ty]

HD78xx is just as "crippled" as Kepler. The only time your "compute BS" can be true would be for HD79xx.

Well i was talking about the HD79xx, why the hell would i want a HD78xx, lower end cards get crippled, but by your own admission Kepler is crippled top to bottom on the consumer card.

 

[Jaydip]

Im talking about consumer cards and the only people claiming that compute is not helping out are the NV card owners because if we play this resolution the shortcoming are not apparent.

I am a bit confused here.The 79XX series has better sp,dp performance than 6XX series.It is very well known, what's there to talk about?

 

[Final8ty]

I am a bit confused here.The 79XX series has better sp,dp performance than 6XX series.It is very well known, what's there to talk about?

Beats me!
Oh have you got links to back up that very well known fact

 

[ShintaiDK]

Well i was talking about the HD79xx, why the hell would i want a HD78xx, lower end cards get crippled, but by your own admission Kepler is crippled top to bottom on the consumer card.

You claimed AMDs performance was due to compute:

I have not given a single source to my claim because it common accepted knowledge already and your just being pedantic for the sake of it and i have notice since AMD cards having started to pull more and more ahead you have becoming increasingly more so.

And thats pure bogus. You linked gaming performance and compute into something it wasnt.