AMD Q3 results: even worse than revised expectations

[iCyborg]

But I very very much doubt that cost of APU development gets unloaded to Graphics Division. It's one of those geek myths.

Not everything, and certainly not cost of material. But parts of R&D for sure. E.g. Trinity GPU wasn't done from scratch, oblivious of previous NI work. Or graphics drivers - APUs use them as well, some logic may be specific, but a lot of it would be common for all NI series. Yet, all the revenue will be reported under Computing solutions. It's probably not a large factor, but it does skew the numbers to some degree.

 

[Ajay]

So even in the best of times, it would only take AMD 27½ years to recoup the money spend on ATI? Unfortunately the interest cost alone basicly means ATI is a constant loss. 5.5billion set on fire.

Not to mention discrete GFX in the long run is a dead one. Or maybe a tiny niche for 1 player.

Wow, it was $5.5B, I forgot - wth was AMD thinking, especially looking at historic profits for ATI, they would have had 10 times the profits to worth that kind of dough!

 

[Raghu]

AMD shares down ~17%. They are now worth less than the amount of cash NVIDIA has.

 

[Crap Daddy]

AMD shares down ~17%. They are now worth less than the amount of cash NVIDIA has.

It's a bloodbath. All our beloved tech companies are down today but AMD took the hardest blow. I'm going to sleep.

 

[ViRGE]

AMD shares down ~17%. They are now worth less than the amount of cash NVIDIA has.

Bloody hell. They were looking decent enough in after-hours trading yesterday and in trading this morning. I wonder what happened to spook investors mid-day like that?

 

[iCyborg]

Bloody hell. They were looking decent enough in after-hours trading yesterday and in trading this morning. I wonder what happened to spook investors mid-day like that?

Yeah, AMD's stock was ass-raped today. Without any lube.
But all the techs had a bad day: nV went down 6% just because of others, I didn't notice any announcement or anything from them. Intel fell 2% after an already bad week, Google, MS...

 

[ViRGE]

Yeah, AMD's stock was ass-raped today. Without any lube.
But all the techs had a bad day: nV went down 6% just because of others, I didn't notice any announcement or anything from them. Intel fell 2% after an already bad week, Google, MS...

Aha. So I've figured it out. Both NVIDIA and AMD were downgraded today; NVIDIA due to PC weakness and AMD due to the poor situation they're in right now.

 

[Siberian]

AMD shares down ~17%. They are now worth less than the amount of cash NVIDIA has.

I dont know how some people here would handle NVIDIA buying AMD.

 

[jpiniero]

I dont know how some people here would handle NVIDIA buying AMD.

Remember when nVidia bought 3dfx?

 

[Elfear]

I dont know how some people here would handle NVIDIA buying AMD.

Do you want Nvidia to buy AMD?

 

[ViRGE]

Do you want Nvidia to buy AMD?

It's all theoretical anyhow. It would never pass the FTC.

 

[bradley]

Remember when nVidia bought 3dfx?

You just brought back bad memories.

 

[Jaydip]

NV shouldn't have any interest in AMD at all.Their GPU division is more than competitive and buying x86 licensee would only mean a losing battle with intel in the long run.On the other hand Samsung or Apple may buy them.

 

[Kippa]

Meh I wouldn't want Nvidia to buy out AMD. One thing I like about AMD at the moment is that their gaming cards support games in general and aren't crippled when it comes to using OpenCl like the Lux rendering, Photoshop 6, Premiere et al. If Nvidia did buy out AMD I would bet they would cripple OpenCl performance on all their gaming cards.

 

[ShintaiDK]

nVidia will never buy AMD or ATI. Simply because the companies dont match in terms of organization, culture and structure. Plus no x86, liabilities, obligations etc etc.

nVidia is already having success with ARM. AMD got nothing to offer nVidia at all.

 

[Obsoleet]

I dont know how some people here would handle NVIDIA buying AMD.

Same way us 3dfx fans dealt with it.

Didn't really care about ATI/Nvidia. I personally moved to Nvidia after trying some cards from both. Used Nvidia till the Vista era, where they fell flat on their face in the driver area.

Moved to Radeons around the AMD buyout time, and haven't had any problems since. I'd go back to Nvidia but they are a little arrogant and kind of turned me off further in recent years.

That said, if they could finally defeat the Radeons in a generation (which in my opinion hasn't been clearly done since the Radeons achieved dominance in the 5870 era to today).. I'd be happy to use them again.

If Nvidia buys AMD I'd do the same as I did before. Try all the products on the market, and whatever works best is what I'll use.
Today that is the Radeon lineup, before it was Geforce, and before that it was 3dfx Voodoo.


Nothing can replace the Voodoo era in my heart though. Even though I've used good products from the other manufacturers.

 

[ocre]

Meh I wouldn't want Nvidia to buy out AMD. One thing I like about AMD at the moment is that their gaming cards support games in general and aren't crippled when it comes to using OpenCl like the Lux rendering, Photoshop 6, Premiere et al. If Nvidia did buy out AMD I would bet they would cripple OpenCl performance on all their gaming cards.

hahahahahahaha

your joking, right?

 

[3DVagabond]

hahahahahahaha

your joking, right?

I think what he means is that vVidia likes to cripple the compute capabilities of their consumer cards to force people to spend extra for the pro cards. AMD doesn't cripple their consumer hardware in relation to the pro line.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I think what he means is that vVidia likes to cripple the compute capabilities of their consumer cards to force people to spend extra for the pro cards. AMD doesn't cripple their consumer hardware in relation to the pro line.

They sure did cripple HD78xx. Also the usage of heavy compute cards for regular consumers is a joke. I would rather have 5-10% faster gaming experience than 50-100% faster compute.

If you want to compute, buy a card made for it. Then you also avoid the silly things with your "pro" gaming card that throttle or overheat under compute.

 

[Final8ty]

They sure did cripple HD78xx. Also the usage of heavy compute cards for regular consumers is a joke. I would rather have 5-10% faster gaming experience than 50-100% faster compute.

If you want to compute, buy a card made for it. Then you also avoid the silly things with your "pro" gaming card that throttle or overheat under compute.

Matter of opinion because i would rather keep the compute and its being used for games.

 

[chimaxi83]

They sure did cripple HD78xx. Also the usage of heavy compute cards for regular consumers is a joke. I would rather have 5-10% faster gaming experience than 50-100% faster compute.

If you want to compute, buy a card made for it. Then you also avoid the silly things with your "pro" gaming card that throttle or overheat under compute.

Lol.

"Kepler sucks at compute."

"Meh, who needs compute, I'd rather have another 3 frames per second. Nvidia 4 lyfe!"



Only here can people say things like this, when Nvidia is down on compute of course, with it being a feature that games are using, and will use.

 

[Keysplayr]

Matter of opinion because i would rather keep the compute and its being used for games.

What would you know of compute in games with 2x5970's in your rig? Do you need to update your sig?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Lol.

"Kepler sucks at compute."

"Meh, who needs compute, I'd rather have another 3 frames per second. Nvidia 4 lyfe!"



Only here can people say things like this, when Nvidia is down on compute of course, with it being a feature that games are using, and will use.

And you can turn it around just as easily. Compute and CUDA was useless until AMD got compute and OpenCL...funny how it goes? Atleast Kepler can do PhysX....

 

[chimaxi83]

And you can turn it around just as easily. Compute and CUDA was useless until AMD got compute and OpenCL...funny how it goes? Atleast Kepler can do PhysX....

Please do enlighten me on the games or game tech that were using compute and CUDA. But yea, at least it has PhysX. Great, great, game changing feature.

 

[Final8ty]

What would you know of compute in games with 2x5970's in your rig? Do you need to update your sig?

Reviews! now stop being pedantic and narrow.