Discussion AMD’s Custom APU Discussion Thread

[Tigerick]

Next Gen XBox Consoles and Handheld Preliminary Specs

	ROG Xbox Ally / SteamDeck OLED	PS6 Handheld ?	ROG Xbox Ally X		PS5	Steam Console Fremont	Xbox Series S		Xbox Series X	X2 ?		PS5 Pro	PS6 ?
Date	2025	Early 2028	2025		2020		2020		2020			2024	Early 2028
Codename	Aerith Plus	Canis	Strix Point			Hawk Point				Magnus		Custom	Orion
Model	Z2A		Z2 Extreme AI
					N6	N4 + N6	N7			N3P + N3P ?		N4P	N3P Chiplet
					260 mm2	178 + 204 = 382 mm2	197 mm2			144 + 264 = 408 mm2		279 mm2
CPU	4 x Zen 2	4 x Zen 6c	4 x Zen 5 + 4 x Zen 5c		8 x Zen 2	6 x Zen 4	8 x Zen 2		8 x Zen 2	Zen 6		8 x Zen 2	8 x Zen 6
						128-bit 8GB DDR5
GPU	RDNA2 8CU	RDNA5 12-20 CU	RDNA3.5 16CU		RDNA2 36CU	RX-7600 RDNA3 32CU	RDNA2 20CU		RDNA2 52CU	RDNA5 68CU		RDNA2 60CU	RDNA5 48CU
Memory	128-bit LPDDR5-6400	128-bit LPDDR5x-7500	128-bit LPDDR5x-8000		256-bit 16GB GDDR6	128-bit 8GB GDDR6	128-bit 8GB + 32-bit 2GB GDDR6		320-bit 10GB GDDR6 + 192-bit 6GB GDDR6	192-bit GDDR7		256-bit 16GB GDDR6	192-bit GDDR7
Memory Bandwidth	102 GB/s		120 GB/s		448 GB/s	288 GB/s	224 GB/s		560 GB/s	864 GB/s		576 GB/s	864 GB/s

 

[johnsonwax]

They aren't going to run upscalers on the NPU.

Apple does. MetalFX does temporal upscaling on ANE, spatial upscaling on GPU.

 

[Tigerick]

Valve Fremont Spotted With Custom AMD Hawk Point 2 SoC: 6 "Zen 4" CPU Cores, 16 MB L3 Cache, 4.8 GHz Clocks & Radeon RX 7600 "RDNA 3" GPU

Valve appears to be preparing a brand-new gaming console, called Fremont, which features a custom AMD SoC with 6 cores & a Radeon 7000 GPU.

wccftech.com

Steam console incoming. CPU should be using 6 x Zen4 Hawk Point APU (N4) and 8GB DDR5.

GPU might be using dedicated RX7600 with max 32-CU and 128-bit 8 GB GDDR6 (288GB/s). RX7600 is made by TSMC's N6, even though the die area is quite large, the performance should be much faster than Series S (10GB GDDR6) with 8+8=16GB total memory...

Selling price should be in range of $300 - $400 to remain competitive 

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Valve Fremont Spotted With Custom AMD Hawk Point 2 SoC: 6 "Zen 4" CPU Cores, 16 MB L3 Cache, 4.8 GHz Clocks & Radeon RX 7600 "RDNA 3" GPU

Valve appears to be preparing a brand-new gaming console, called Fremont, which features a custom AMD SoC with 6 cores & a Radeon 7000 GPU.

wccftech.com

Steam console incoming. CPU should be using 6 x Zen4 Hawk Point APU (N4) and 8GB DDR5.

GPU might be using dedicated RX7600 with max 32-CU and 128-bit 8 GB GDDR6 (288GB/s). RX7600 is made by TSMC's N6, even though the die area is quite large, the performance should be much faster than Series S (10GB GDDR6) with 8+8=16GB total memory...

Selling price should be in range of $300 - $400 to remain competitive 

If Valve finds a way to finetune the VRAM allocation, this could have GPU performance parity with the PS5 but with better CPU performance.
And if FSR4 finds its way to RDNA3 (which we now know AMD is working on, as proven by yesterday's FSR4 github "leaks"), this could be a nice little box full of potential. And hopefully pretty cheap.