Am I the only one that thinks the Ipod sucks?

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
If I don't like the mac version, then too bad for you and your mac friends because I won't switch. Uh I didn't say there wasn't a mac version of OFFICE. I just don't like thier version because it's significantly slower than the PC version and has quirks I don't like about it.

I told you reasons why I don't like the mac and you refuse to accept my reasons for it. They are valid arguements whether or not you would like to believe it. I find the "solution" to my problem with the menu is not sufficient, while it may be for you, it's not for me. I don't like that fact I can't play farcry on a mac, your solution would probably play a different game. There is nothing on the mac that I would need thats not on the pc, but I'm SURE there is plenty on the PC that the mac doesn't have. And what I mean DOESN'T have I mean the exact version. Premiere and photoshop are practically identical on the mac and PC but office isn't and other programs like MS access isn't because either they were proorly programmed on the mac or I'm forced to use another alternative. Please end this. I hate macs, you love macs, I love PCs, you hate pcs. Why bother???

You acted like there wasnt one, because you said: "If I want to be able to play farcry or run MS Office how I KNOW IT then I should be able to."

If you read that more carefully, it says "HOW I KNOW IT!". I don't want apple vision googles when using it, I want a replica and if you can't get me a replica then ta ta. There is no advantage to using the mac version over the pc version because the mac version, IMO sucks.

You said you should be able to run MS Office, although you can on a Mac.

No I said I want to run a version I'm familiar with and one that doesn't suck as hard as the mac version. Just because I don't like your "spruced up" version, doesn't mean I'm not entitled to my opinion.

Your arguments are not valid because they are opinionated and over exaggerated. How are those considered valid? You havent proved anything, but shown your hatred towards Macs by saying they are slower than Pentium ll's and they dont have start menus.

Who needs MS Access when you have FileMaker Pro which is FAR more advanced than Access.

Who is to say that filemaker pro is better than MS access? YOU, why in the hell would I take YOUR opinion? Personally I like MS access better whether or not you think your version is more superior to mine. If I like the layout of MS access or the integration with office then that can be a VALID point and it's my opinion, just like filemaker pro is YOUR opinion.

Who said I hated PC's? I own 2 PC's, and I use them. I never showed my hatred towards PC's. If I have, qoute me on this. Otherwise, stop putting words in my mouth.

Goosemaster: You should be telling Philippine Mango to learn how to argue. You should read his posts and ask yourself if any of what he said was valid. All he argues is "Macs dont have start menu's" and "Macs are slower than P ll's."

I am just showing how stupid his posts are, thats all.

My posts are only stupid because you can't see the point of view of another individual. What may seem simple or easy to live out with for you because you don't do anything that would considered business related, I can't. I like how the start menu is and I'm not going to accept a cheap knockoff of the start menu because you think your crappy OS is far superior to the MS OS. Sure the MS os gets some BSODs but thats because of:
1. User error which is guaranteed for most of the time
2. Improper drivers, which is a lot harder to happen on a mac. But soon as those terds move to the mac platform, it will be deja vous agian.
3. Crappy hardware, with an abundance of crappy hardware and windows being compatible with everything, something is bound to happen
4. viruses? Because the PC is a bigger target because more people use it, it's bound to happen. Watch the apple platform when they start making spyware and viruses, then lets see how "superior" it is...

I want to be able to have a certain look, a look of professionalism, one that lets me get my work done and nothing else. Thats why I disabled all the visual features of windows XP, because I don't need a green start menu or colored task bars. There are so many programs for windows that I don't feel limitless and narrowed down to just a few like on the mac. I know that when a program comes out on the PC, there wasn't anyone else who had it earlier (working for the company/stealing doesn't count). I like to know if one company goes out of buisness like even MS per se that I will still be able to use my hardware on another operating system. Sure you can get some linux distros for the mac but I would much rather have up to 100+ operating systems to choose from (some guy got world record for most operating systems).

My arguments are just as valid as yours are. I can see how some of the gripes people have agianst the operating system doesn't bother you and thats fine. But those gripes bother me and many others and thats what matters. If I don't like nutty peanut butter I shouldn't be forced to eat it "because it tastes better/healthier for you". But thats how YOU think, you think like a child where you believe everybody has to agree with you and you know what, people don't. Please end this now because this has clearly gone nowhere, while you may not care, I do.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
(snip)
1. User error which is guaranteed for most of the time
2. Improper drivers, which is a lot harder to happen on a mac. But soon as those terds move to the mac platform, it will be deja vous agian.
3. Crappy hardware, with an abundance of crappy hardware and windows being compatible with everything, something is bound to happen
4. viruses? Because the PC is a bigger target because more people use it, it's bound to happen. Watch the apple platform when they start making spyware and viruses, then lets see how "superior" it is...

Spyware may end up on there, depending on how tight Safari is. Virii and worms will be less of a problem, though, simply due to design. To do the things that a lot of spyware or worms need to, a *n*x needs you to log in as root. In Windows, you basically are that all the time. OS X, BSD, and Linux are just plain designed better for security, having been based on true multi-user unix. Even on Windows, though, it isn't hard to be clean. Using FF & TB instead of IE & OE will cut out 95+% of spyware and virii that don't need your explicit permission. Now take that, and add a OS that was made with security measures as a simple part of its nature (right behind |), and you've got a pretty solid system.

I want to be able to have a certain look, a look of professionalism, one that lets me get my work done and nothing else. Thats why I disabled all the visual features of windows XP, because I don't need a green start menu or colored task bars.

Yeah, why'd they do that? There are so many better looking MS Styles out there now, but MS decided to look at Crayola for inspiration.

There are so many programs for windows that I don't feel limitless and narrowed down to just a few like on the mac.

Aside from games...what?
Photoshop: check.
GIMP: check, supposedly.
OpenOffice: check (but no specialized 2.0 for OS X)
Seriously, what is so limiting today? Granted, it's not Apple's fault (but they sure benefit!), but there's plenty of good FOSS to choose from.

I know that when a program comes out on the PC, there wasn't anyone else who had it earlier (working for the company/stealing doesn't count).

I never really worried about that.

I like to know if one company goes out of buisness like even MS per se that I will still be able to use my hardware on another operating system.

You can do that with a Mac. For some strange reaosn, Gentoo seems to be really popular, as is FreeBSD.

Sure you can get some linux distros for the mac but I would much rather have up to 100+ operating systems to choose from (some guy got world record for most operating systems).

Why? There are basically two OSes for x86, soon to be three (opened up Solaris), and two for the Mac, with overlap. Is this argument a strawman or a red herring? So what if you can run lots of OSes (I think it was in the low 30s, but multiple versions of early Windows counted)? Why do you need Windows 1,2,3, and 3.11, or OS/2? Between Windows, OS X, and Linux (2.4 and up), you've got solid operating systems with good hardware support.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Macs are not limited in software.

My arguments are just as valid as yours are. I can see how some of the gripes people have agianst the operating system doesn't bother you and thats fine. But those gripes bother me and many others and thats what matters. If I don't like nutty peanut butter I shouldn't be forced to eat it "because it tastes better/healthier for you". But thats how YOU think, you think like a child where you believe everybody has to agree with you and you know what, people don't. Please end this now because this has clearly gone nowhere, while you may not care, I do.

Your arguments are not valid. Your arguments are opinionated and over exaggerated. A valid argument proves something, something that opinions and exaggerations do not. I dont care if you dislike Mac. I really dont care. You keep trying so hard to make the Mac look bad because it has no start menu, and you use arguments from the top of your head, and try to make them seem valid, which they were not, and I have proved that in this thread. I dont care if people dont want to use Macs. I am not here to convert anyone. I came in this thread to prove all of your opinionated and exaggerated "theories" are BS, and I have done that already.

Who is to say that filemaker pro is better than MS access? YOU, why in the hell would I take YOUR opinion? Personally I like MS access better whether or not you think your version is more superior to mine. If I like the layout of MS access or the integration with office then that can be a VALID point and it's my opinion, just like filemaker pro is YOUR opinion.

Who is to say? I am to say, because I use both Access and FileMaker Pro, and FileMaker Pro has FAR more features than Access, period. You havent used FileMaker Pro, so you cant say you like Access more. Through my experience, FileMaker Pro has more features, and is easier to use. That is my opinion, and I am not trying to win an argument using it. No need for Access, period.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Cerb
Spyware may end up on there, depending on how tight Safari is. Virii and worms will be less of a problem, though, simply due to design. To do the things that a lot of spyware or worms need to, a *n*x needs you to log in as root. In Windows, you basically are that all the time. OS X, BSD, and Linux are just plain designed better for security, having been based on true multi-user unix.

What's wrong with windows xp's design? You too have to login as a root type account (admin) which should and would technically make XP more secure. But because people are stupid (have a tendancy to do this, I will admit), they will run on the admin account all the time, negating that useful feature.

Photoshop: check.
GIMP: check, supposedly.
OpenOffice: check (but no specialized 2.0 for OS X)
Seriously, what is so limiting today? Granted, it's not Apple's fault (but they sure benefit!), but there's plenty of good FOSS to choose from.

Not enough to satasfy me. I like the small applications as well, the ones that get little to no credit and there are most definately no substitues on the mac.

I never really worried about that.

Well I do, because I like having my stuff asap.

You can do that with a Mac. For some strange reaosn, Gentoo seems to be really popular, as is FreeBSD.

Why? There are basically two OSes for x86, soon to be three (opened up Solaris), and two for the Mac, with overlap. Is this argument a strawman or a red herring? So what if you can run lots of OSes (I think it was in the low 30s, but multiple versions of early Windows counted)? Why do you need Windows 1,2,3, and 3.11, or OS/2? Between Windows, OS X, and Linux (2.4 and up), you've got solid operating systems with good hardware support.

The guy said he had like 25*+ operating systems (starting to recall it), it was on the screen savers. But agian, that was on a PC, not a mac. I like choices and it's simple as that whether or not I would actually use them is another question.

There is just so much more support on the PC side with much more powerful hardware and so on that there would be no need to switch to a mac. There is nothing on a mac that would and should convince anyone to use it over the pc. The only reason why people use it, is because they need to be compatible with the ones who DO use it, kinda strange if you asked me. If everyone switched to PC, there wouldn't be nearly as many compatibility issues as there are now. I don't even care if they switch to windows or not, just long as they have a pc. That way we won't have to waste money on severely overpriced hardware. I hope it become something like 50/50 for linux and if linux gets simplified enough for everybody, all there will be is just a software market and a free operating system.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

What's wrong with windows xp's design? You too have to login as a root type account (admin) which should and would technically make XP more secure. But because people are stupid (have a tendancy to do this, I will admit), they will run on the admin account all the time, negating that useful feature.

Let me put it this way. I type in my PC's IP address in the Connect to server box. It prompts for a password for the PC. I type in a random password, and I have full access to the PC. Now, I go to the PC, and I type in the IP address for the Mac in the "search for computers on the network" search box. I double click the IP address for the Mac when it comes up, and it asks for the password. I type in a random password, the PC has no access to the Mac.

Not enough to satasfy me. I like the small applications as well, the ones that get little to no credit and there are most definately no substitues on the mac.

Name the software that is "limited on the Mac."

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Macs are not limited in software.

My arguments are just as valid as yours are. I can see how some of the gripes people have agianst the operating system doesn't bother you and thats fine. But those gripes bother me and many others and thats what matters. If I don't like nutty peanut butter I shouldn't be forced to eat it "because it tastes better/healthier for you". But thats how YOU think, you think like a child where you believe everybody has to agree with you and you know what, people don't. Please end this now because this has clearly gone nowhere, while you may not care, I do.

Your arguments are not valid. Your arguments are opinionated and over exaggerated. A valid argument proves something, something that opinions and exaggerations do not. I dont care if you dislike Mac. I really dont care. You keep trying so hard to make the Mac look bad because it has no start menu, and you use arguments from the top of your head, and try to make them seem valid, which they were not, and I have proved that in this thread. I dont care if people dont want to use Macs. I am not here to convert anyone. I came in this thread to prove all of your opinionated and exaggerated "theories" are BS, and I have done that already.

Who is to say that filemaker pro is better than MS access? YOU, why in the hell would I take YOUR opinion? Personally I like MS access better whether or not you think your version is more superior to mine. If I like the layout of MS access or the integration with office then that can be a VALID point and it's my opinion, just like filemaker pro is YOUR opinion.

Who is to say? I am to say, because I use both Access and FileMaker Pro, and FileMaker Pro has FAR more features than Access, period. You havent used FileMaker Pro, so you cant say you like Access more. Through my experience, FileMaker Pro has more features, and is easier to use. That is my opinion, and I am not trying to win an argument using it. No need for Access, period.

But if I want an office suit, can I get that on the mac, meaning it includes as just as comprehensive suit as the PC does?

And what's with the comment that macs are not limited in software. Are you saying that macs have just as much software as the PC does? I hope your not because your most definately wrong. While they may have an alternative for the mac, it's still not an exact copy or even the same software as it is on the PC. The pc has a much greater library of software then the mac does, and you should know that..

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

What's wrong with windows xp's design? You too have to login as a root type account (admin) which should and would technically make XP more secure. But because people are stupid (have a tendancy to do this, I will admit), they will run on the admin account all the time, negating that useful feature.

Let me put it this way. I type in my PC's IP address in the Connect to server box. It prompts for a password for the PC. I type in a random password, and I have full access to the PC. Now, I go to the PC, and I type in the IP address for the Mac in the "search for computers on the network" search box. I double click the IP address for the Mac when it comes up, and it asks for the password. I type in a random password, the PC has no access to the Mac.

Not enough to satasfy me. I like the small applications as well, the ones that get little to no credit and there are most definately no substitues on the mac.

Name the software that is "limited on the Mac."

LOL, do you not have a password setup on the admin account? If you don't, then of course it should work...

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Macs are not limited in software.

My arguments are just as valid as yours are. I can see how some of the gripes people have agianst the operating system doesn't bother you and thats fine. But those gripes bother me and many others and thats what matters. If I don't like nutty peanut butter I shouldn't be forced to eat it "because it tastes better/healthier for you". But thats how YOU think, you think like a child where you believe everybody has to agree with you and you know what, people don't. Please end this now because this has clearly gone nowhere, while you may not care, I do.

Your arguments are not valid. Your arguments are opinionated and over exaggerated. A valid argument proves something, something that opinions and exaggerations do not. I dont care if you dislike Mac. I really dont care. You keep trying so hard to make the Mac look bad because it has no start menu, and you use arguments from the top of your head, and try to make them seem valid, which they were not, and I have proved that in this thread. I dont care if people dont want to use Macs. I am not here to convert anyone. I came in this thread to prove all of your opinionated and exaggerated "theories" are BS, and I have done that already.

Who is to say that filemaker pro is better than MS access? YOU, why in the hell would I take YOUR opinion? Personally I like MS access better whether or not you think your version is more superior to mine. If I like the layout of MS access or the integration with office then that can be a VALID point and it's my opinion, just like filemaker pro is YOUR opinion.

Who is to say? I am to say, because I use both Access and FileMaker Pro, and FileMaker Pro has FAR more features than Access, period. You havent used FileMaker Pro, so you cant say you like Access more. Through my experience, FileMaker Pro has more features, and is easier to use. That is my opinion, and I am not trying to win an argument using it. No need for Access, period.

But if I want an office suit, can I get that on the mac, meaning it includes as just as comprehensive suit as the PC does?

And what's with the comment that macs are not limited in software. Are you saying that macs have just as much software as the PC does? I hope your not because your most definately wrong. While they may have an alternative for the mac, it's still not an exact copy or even the same software as it is on the PC. The pc has a much greater library of software then the mac does, and you should know that..

iWork 05' is a complete Office suite for Mac.

Macs are not limited in software. There are substitutes. Just like the PC. Some Mac Apps dont run on PC's and there are substitutes. Appleworks doesnt run on PC, but PC's have MS Office. Xcode doesnt run on PC's, but PC's have Visual Studio .NET. iMovie, iDVD, iPhoto do not run on PC, but there are substitutes for them. TechTool Pro doesnt run on PC, but there is a substitute. You see where I am going with this?

 

[KoolDrew]

No for both.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

What's wrong with windows xp's design? You too have to login as a root type account (admin) which should and would technically make XP more secure. But because people are stupid (have a tendancy to do this, I will admit), they will run on the admin account all the time, negating that useful feature.

Let me put it this way. I type in my PC's IP address in the Connect to server box. It prompts for a password for the PC. I type in a random password, and I have full access to the PC. Now, I go to the PC, and I type in the IP address for the Mac in the "search for computers on the network" search box. I double click the IP address for the Mac when it comes up, and it asks for the password. I type in a random password, the PC has no access to the Mac.

Not enough to satasfy me. I like the small applications as well, the ones that get little to no credit and there are most definately no substitues on the mac.

Name the software that is "limited on the Mac."

LOL, do you not have a password setup on the admin account? If you don't, then of course it should work...

Yes, there is a password on it. Even on my sisters laptop. All I have to do is type in her IP, type in a random password in the dialogue box, choose what folder I want to mount, (i.e her shared folder and her HD.) click OK, and I have her shared documents or HD mounted on my desktop. Its quite simple.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Macs are not limited in software.

My arguments are just as valid as yours are. I can see how some of the gripes people have agianst the operating system doesn't bother you and thats fine. But those gripes bother me and many others and thats what matters. If I don't like nutty peanut butter I shouldn't be forced to eat it "because it tastes better/healthier for you". But thats how YOU think, you think like a child where you believe everybody has to agree with you and you know what, people don't. Please end this now because this has clearly gone nowhere, while you may not care, I do.

Your arguments are not valid. Your arguments are opinionated and over exaggerated. A valid argument proves something, something that opinions and exaggerations do not. I dont care if you dislike Mac. I really dont care. You keep trying so hard to make the Mac look bad because it has no start menu, and you use arguments from the top of your head, and try to make them seem valid, which they were not, and I have proved that in this thread. I dont care if people dont want to use Macs. I am not here to convert anyone. I came in this thread to prove all of your opinionated and exaggerated "theories" are BS, and I have done that already.

Who is to say that filemaker pro is better than MS access? YOU, why in the hell would I take YOUR opinion? Personally I like MS access better whether or not you think your version is more superior to mine. If I like the layout of MS access or the integration with office then that can be a VALID point and it's my opinion, just like filemaker pro is YOUR opinion.

Who is to say? I am to say, because I use both Access and FileMaker Pro, and FileMaker Pro has FAR more features than Access, period. You havent used FileMaker Pro, so you cant say you like Access more. Through my experience, FileMaker Pro has more features, and is easier to use. That is my opinion, and I am not trying to win an argument using it. No need for Access, period.

But if I want an office suit, can I get that on the mac, meaning it includes as just as comprehensive suit as the PC does?

And what's with the comment that macs are not limited in software. Are you saying that macs have just as much software as the PC does? I hope your not because your most definately wrong. While they may have an alternative for the mac, it's still not an exact copy or even the same software as it is on the PC. The pc has a much greater library of software then the mac does, and you should know that..

iWork 05' is a complete Office suite for Mac.

Macs are not limited in software. There are substitutes. Just like the PC. Some Mac Apps dont run on PC's and there are substitutes. Appleworks doesnt run on PC, but PC's have MS Office. Xcode doesnt run on PC's, but PC's have Visual Studio .NET. iMovie, iDVD, iPhoto do not run on PC, but there are substitutes for them. TechTool Pro doesnt run on PC, but there is a substitute. You see where I am going with this?

Yup, but who is to say those are better alternatives? While they may have alternatives on each platform, it would be considered the mac is the alternative because the PC version came out first. Tell me, do you know what "Bloomberg is"? Do they have an alternative to that?

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

What's wrong with windows xp's design? You too have to login as a root type account (admin) which should and would technically make XP more secure. But because people are stupid (have a tendancy to do this, I will admit), they will run on the admin account all the time, negating that useful feature.

Let me put it this way. I type in my PC's IP address in the Connect to server box. It prompts for a password for the PC. I type in a random password, and I have full access to the PC. Now, I go to the PC, and I type in the IP address for the Mac in the "search for computers on the network" search box. I double click the IP address for the Mac when it comes up, and it asks for the password. I type in a random password, the PC has no access to the Mac.

Not enough to satasfy me. I like the small applications as well, the ones that get little to no credit and there are most definately no substitues on the mac.

Name the software that is "limited on the Mac."

LOL, do you not have a password setup on the admin account? If you don't, then of course it should work...

Yes, there is a password on it. Even on my sisters laptop. All I have to do is type in her IP, type in a random password in the dialogue box, choose what folder I want to mount, (i.e her shared folder and her HD.) click OK, and I have her shared documents or HD mounted on my desktop. Its quite simple.

It could be, quite possibly that windows has saved the password to the other computer so that is why when you try to access it, it works. I've tried that and it doesn't work, I have to type a specific password to get into my computer across the network. If I type \\abit\c$ I will get a prompt asking me to type in the password, when I "type a random password" it will just repeat it's self asking for the password agian. I don't know what you did to your computer, but you should fix it. Patch?

 

[imported_Lucifer]

And who is to say the substitutes for the PC's are better alternatives?

Anyways, no, I dont know what Bloomberg is. Can you tell me what it is?

 

[Philippine Mango]

Does the admin account have a password, or does some random made up account on the computer have a password. If you have an account called shelly with a password but no password on the admin account, then you defeat the whole purpose of the XP security.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

What's wrong with windows xp's design? You too have to login as a root type account (admin) which should and would technically make XP more secure. But because people are stupid (have a tendancy to do this, I will admit), they will run on the admin account all the time, negating that useful feature.

Let me put it this way. I type in my PC's IP address in the Connect to server box. It prompts for a password for the PC. I type in a random password, and I have full access to the PC. Now, I go to the PC, and I type in the IP address for the Mac in the "search for computers on the network" search box. I double click the IP address for the Mac when it comes up, and it asks for the password. I type in a random password, the PC has no access to the Mac.

Not enough to satasfy me. I like the small applications as well, the ones that get little to no credit and there are most definately no substitues on the mac.

Name the software that is "limited on the Mac."

LOL, do you not have a password setup on the admin account? If you don't, then of course it should work...

Yes, there is a password on it. Even on my sisters laptop. All I have to do is type in her IP, type in a random password in the dialogue box, choose what folder I want to mount, (i.e her shared folder and her HD.) click OK, and I have her shared documents or HD mounted on my desktop. Its quite simple.

It could be, quite possibly that windows has saved the password to the other computer so that is why when you try to access it, it works. I've tried that and it doesn't work, I have to type a specific password to get into my computer across the network. If I type \\abit\c$ I will get a prompt asking me to type in the password, when I "type a random password" it will just repeat it's self asking for the password agian. I don't know what you did to your computer, but you should fix it. Patch?

No, I didnt add the passwords of the PC's to my keychain. I dont need to type in a specific password, as long as the random password is more than 3 characters, I have access to the PC's. No patches are required on the PC's, because both of them are running Norton Internet security, have all windows updates, and both are running SP2.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Does the admin account have a password, or does some random made up account on the computer have a password. If you have an account called shelly with a password but no password on the admin account, then you defeat the whole purpose of the XP security.

There is only one user on both PC's. One is "Sammy" and my sisters is "JunJin." Both are Administrators. There are no other accounts on the PC's. Both passwords are on the admin account.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
And who is to say the substitutes for the PC's are better alternatives?

Anyways, no, I dont know what Bloomberg is. Can you tell me what it is?

http://bloomberg.com/

Tell that to people on wallstreet that they can't use thier computers to retrieve financial info because they don't have a mac version...

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Does the admin account have a password, or does some random made up account on the computer have a password. If you have an account called shelly with a password but no password on the admin account, then you defeat the whole purpose of the XP security.

There is only one user on both PC's. One is "Sammy" and my sisters is "JunJin." Both are Administrators. There are no other accounts on the PC's. Both passwords are on the admin account.

Let me guess, you have XP home don't you?

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
And who is to say the substitutes for the PC's are better alternatives?

Anyways, no, I dont know what Bloomberg is. Can you tell me what it is?

http://bloomberg.com/

Tell that to people on wallstreet that they can't use thier computers to retrieve financial info because they don't have a mac version...

Then what is Quicken?

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Does the admin account have a password, or does some random made up account on the computer have a password. If you have an account called shelly with a password but no password on the admin account, then you defeat the whole purpose of the XP security.

There is only one user on both PC's. One is "Sammy" and my sisters is "JunJin." Both are Administrators. There are no other accounts on the PC's. Both passwords are on the admin account.

Let me guess, you have XP home don't you?

We dont believe in XP Home. Both are running XP Pro.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Does the admin account have a password, or does some random made up account on the computer have a password. If you have an account called shelly with a password but no password on the admin account, then you defeat the whole purpose of the XP security.

There is only one user on both PC's. One is "Sammy" and my sisters is "JunJin." Both are Administrators. There are no other accounts on the PC's. Both passwords are on the admin account.

Let me guess, you have XP home don't you?

We dont believe in XP Home. Both are running XP Pro.

clearly there is something wrong with your setup then. Try this. Log off, click Ctrl+Alt+Delete (assuming your using the lame XP style and not 2000 style prompt) then type in Administrator and try to login, see what happens...

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
And who is to say the substitutes for the PC's are better alternatives?

Anyways, no, I dont know what Bloomberg is. Can you tell me what it is?

http://bloomberg.com/

Tell that to people on wallstreet that they can't use thier computers to retrieve financial info because they don't have a mac version...

Then what is Quicken?

Lol, Thats to take care of your taxes. Bloomberg gives upto date information on companies financial records, stock prices over the years, problems they've had like bankruptcy. You see, there are programs on the PC where there is absolutely no substitute on the mac, so why would I get a mac? So that I could use a pc JUST for finacial stuff and the mac for everything? Games shouldn't be excluded because when people are on break/lunch, maybe they want to play a game or two after working on a 1000 page excel document. It makes more sense for everything to work on one thing then to have to make compremises like with the mac and use other tools just to get the same job done that a PC could have done just as easily, all on one machine.

 

[konakona]

1) The higher res color screen seems to be easier to read. It did when I compared the iPod Photo to the regular iPod at the store, anyway.
2) Seeing album cover art for the song that you're playing is kinda cool, but it's probably not all that useful.
3) The thing that I really liked was that the iPod photo has an AV out jack for displaying images on a TV. The iRiver doesn't seem to have that option, or at least from that I could tell from the web site. Combined with the big hard drive in that thing, I was thinking that this might be a good way to store and display my digital photo collection without lugging a laptop around.

..and just to think how much you would have to pay for that little gimmick and 'coolness'. i wouldnt point a finger at you if you bought one, but as an ATOTer you would be damned to buy that thing; i am sure you know better ways to spend your hard earned money rather than just forking it over to apple for so-called 'innovation'.

The thing is there aren't better products out there. They may be more reliable or something, but they are all either bigger or don't hold nearly as much.

Steve Jobs, is that you????

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Does the admin account have a password, or does some random made up account on the computer have a password. If you have an account called shelly with a password but no password on the admin account, then you defeat the whole purpose of the XP security.

There is only one user on both PC's. One is "Sammy" and my sisters is "JunJin." Both are Administrators. There are no other accounts on the PC's. Both passwords are on the admin account.

Let me guess, you have XP home don't you?

What's wrong with XP home? As long as you have a single processor desktop system that isn't connected to a Domain controller, there is very little practical use for the other features in XP Pro.

 

[dak125]

It's the cool thing to have.

I'm loving my iRiver iHP-120, greatest thing ever.