Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gets to Washington D.C. and immediately fights for climate policy.

[ElFenix]

Never been to Brietbart ever. It's so adorable when people assume, like children, that anyone that disagrees with them, no matter to what degree , must be the evil "OTHER."

Explain to me how free public college and technical degrees plus the forgiveness of all student loan debt (currently at $1.5T) will not result in a total collapse? Lending institutions that specialize in student loans would go out of business overnight, schools would receive a massive influx of under-qualified students and would be forced to enroll them, existing public college and technical schools would require massive infrastructure upgrades and hiring sprees to avoid average class sizes of 100:1, which would in turn sky rocket the demand for professors meaning institutions would either pay much higher salaries and benefits or employee less competent people, diluting the value of public college degrees in general, not to mention the inflation effect of millions more people holding college degrees.

Please bring your advanced understanding to bear and address these fundamental issues with just one of AOC's platforms.

why would free public higher ed require schools to reduce admissions standards?

1.5T is about 7.5% of GDP and less than 2% of total assets. it's a big chunk but the economy wouldn't collapse by the feds paying it off. and all the people writing checks for student loans would spend or save that money elsewhere, so it's not like the money flows just disappear from the economy. they'd get redirected instead.

but i don't know why i'm doing your thinking for you.

 

[ivwshane]

Never been to Brietbart ever. It's so adorable when people assume, like children, that anyone that disagrees with them, no matter to what degree , must be the evil "OTHER."

Explain to me how free public college and technical degrees plus the forgiveness of all student loan debt (currently at $1.5T) will not result in a total collapse? Lending institutions that specialize in student loans would go out of business overnight, schools would receive a massive influx of under-qualified students and would be forced to enroll them, existing public college and technical schools would require massive infrastructure upgrades and hiring sprees to avoid average class sizes of >100:1, which would in turn sky rocket the demand for professors meaning institutions would either pay much higher salaries and benefits or employ less competent people, diluting the value of public college degrees in general, not to mention the inflation effect of millions more people holding college degrees and the impact to those that did responsibly pay for degrees out of their own pocket who now find their degree is far less valuable as they have to compete with a job market flooded with more college graduates.

Please bring your advanced understanding to bear and address these fundamental issues with just one of AOC's platforms.

Why do you assume that free college means anyone qualified or not gets to go? Considering most student loans are backed by the federal government anyway, why wouldn't you want to cut out the middle man and let the federal/local governments control the funds?

It sounds like the premise of your question is incorrect.

 

[ecogen]

Never been to Brietbart ever. It's so adorable when people assume, like children, that anyone that disagrees with them, no matter to what degree , must be the evil "OTHER."

Explain to me how free public college and technical degrees plus the forgiveness of all student loan debt (currently at $1.5T) will not result in a total collapse? Lending institutions that specialize in student loans would go out of business overnight.

Wrong. This shit doesn't happen overnight and the govt would be repaying the lending institutions. Long term, those institutions would restructure, focusing elsewhere. Tough shit.

schools would receive a massive influx of under-qualified students and would be forced to enroll them, existing public college and technical schools would require massive infrastructure upgrades and hiring sprees to avoid average class sizes of >100:1, which would in turn sky rocket the demand for professors meaning institutions would either pay much higher salaries and benefits or employ less competent people, diluting the value of public college degrees in general, not to mention the inflation effect of millions more people holding college degrees and the impact to those that did responsibly pay for degrees out of their own pocket who now find their degree is far less valuable as they have to compete with a job market flooded with more college graduates.

Wrong again.
All of this is based on this "flood of new under qualified students" that will supposedly happen for no apparent reason. Just because the tuition would be free doesn't mean admission standards need to change, which pretty much means your nightmare scenario is pure fantasy.

Please bring your advanced understanding to bear and address these fundamental issues with just one of AOC's platforms.

My advanced understanding leads me to the conclusion that you think you're smarter than you actually are.

Edit: Apparently the above posters beat me to it 🙁

 

[shortylickens]

The rich assholes running those overpriced student loans are the kind of people Trump seeks to help out. Himself and fellow billionaires.

 

[Jhhnn]

My local Trumpians haven't stopped going on about her, practically every day since she beat the incumbent in the primary. I swear I'm getting ready to lose it and chew them out over giving her such importance in their lives.

She's the poster girl for ebil soshulists threatening the Murricuhn way of life and making baby Jesus cry.

Meanwhile, since 1980 the lowest 50% lost 1/3 of their national income share & those in the 50-75% range lost 1/5. It went straight to the 1% whose share of taxable income more than doubled. If we want that back, or the equivalent, the only way to get it is thru more socialism, not less. Worshipping at the altar of greed doesn't mean middle class conservatives aren't being sacrificed on it. The Gods of free market trickle down demand it.

It's not like the Rich had many problems being rich back in 1980 when their share was a helluva lot smaller, either.

 

[Jaskalas]

Explain to me how free public college and technical degrees plus the forgiveness of all student loan debt (currently at $1.5T) will not result in a total collapse?

United States annual budget is $4 trillion. $1.5 trillion is a meaningful figure, but nothing absurd.

However, we have more important things to spend on and I'd first focus on reforming education so it is NOT based on hundred million dollar institutions. Reduce the costs and change the program(s). Then we'll talk about paying. OTOH, with basic income the payment might already be covered.

 

[VRAMdemon]

My local Trumpians haven't stopped going on about her, practically every day since she beat the incumbent in the primary. I swear I'm getting ready to lose it and chew them out over giving her such importance in their lives.

Conservative media thrives on keeping its viewers outraged or afraid. She is just the latest embodiment of the scary threat that is coming to change your country and disparage everything good and decent. This is entirely a manufactured persona. They are getting started on their long-term playbook to smear, Hillary style

She represents what conservatives fear most, being overrun by demographic changes. The GOP is a party of elderly white conservative with patriarchal views. Young people are multicultural, multiracial, and do not fear democratic socialism. Cortez is the embodiment of the first wave of what the GOP fears, a future where multiracial, multicultural young people vote in such huge numbers that they overwhelm elderly white conservative voters. Obviously she's young, pretty, photogenic, idealistic and conveniently located near the major media outlets in New York. That set her up as a target for the other side, who are always happy to leap at any bait offered. So now she's a divisive figure.

Ocasio-Cortez became much more famous than your usual newbie representative before the right wing jumped on her. She also put herself out there. She was the one who is famous enough to be invited onto on major talk shows outlining her ideas - these ideas are spoken with enthusiasm and conviction. She believes in what she says unlike others who shift to the left in the primaries only to shift back over to the middle in the general election. That's why they picked her as the new Emmanuel Goldstein.

 

[Indus]

She's a breath of fresh air that we need from corrupt washington politicians.

Her policies actually help the people.

Guess who hates her.. wink wink.. its not the people.

 

[Moonbeam]

Conservatives should walk a mile in her shoes. It might put holiness into their souls.

 

[Indus]

Conservatives should walk a mile in her shoes. It might put holiness into their souls.

But walking is bad for them.. its healthy. They want people to be unhealthy so pharma bro and others like him make $750 a pill.

 

[Moonbeam]

But walking is bad for them.. its healthy. They want people to be unhealthy so pharma bro and others like him make $750 a pill.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BqdELwTg7Uo/

 

[Jaskalas]

Fox News has found a new 'villain' in Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

In fact, President Trump's favorite network has what I'd like to refer to as "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez derangement syndrome." They can't stop talking everything Ocasio-Cortez, from her choice of footwear to the type of apartment she can afford to the alleged impending doom she presents for America. ​

Can confirm, the mind-rot masses are freaking obsessed with her. And I can squarely point the finger at right wing media specifically targeting AOC.