Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gets to Washington D.C. and immediately fights for climate policy.

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Geriatric Republicans seem utterly obsessed with this woman. I'd be the first to say she's not perfect and that she'll make her mistakes, but the likes of Sarah Palin going after her for mixing up words in a sentence is just too much. :rolleyes:

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1064977742117171200

I know the Republican machine is so obsessed about her it’s become really weird.
Just in the last two weeks she’s:

Too poor to be in Congress she can’t afford rent until she begins her new job
She looks like she wears an expensive coat per this creep shot picture. She’s too wealthy to be sincere
She has bad grammar
She’s a girl
 

ch33zw1z

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shortylickens

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No wonder they are terrified of her when you look her message. I'm surprised they even run that graphic, as it must cause significant cognitive dissonance in the audience.

Radical ideas?
Supporting education?
Taking care of people?
Limiting the powers of big govt?
Supporting jobs, industry, the environment and our country?

It's only radical if we've forgotten what good governance looks like.
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Just to show how completely out of touch Fox News is: those first two are neither new nor radica nor exclusively democrat.
 

child of wonder

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The only reason anyone not far left pays so much attention to her is that many of her ideas are so ludicrous and would be disastrous for the country's economy, plus the disturbing trend of the Democrats openly embracing hard socialism, that she and her ilk need to either move to more moderate versions of their positions or be stopped altogether.

I'm no Republican, more of a left leaning centrist on social issues, right leaning centrist on economic issues, but so much of what she stands for would cripple our economy in the short and long term.
 
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K1052

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I have to admire AOC for how totally fucking unhinged she manages to make conservatives by simply existing.

Not all her policy details are well fleshed out and she'll learn more about government in due course. It's a house seat for christ's sake not Emperor of America. Look at the range certified morons, cretins, and criminals the Republicans have been sending up.
 

ch33zw1z

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The only reason anyone not far left pays so much attention to her is that many of her ideas are so ludicrous and would be disastrous for the country's economy, plus the disturbing trend of the Democrats openly embracing hard socialism, that she and her ilk need to either move to more moderate versions of their positions or be stopped altogether.

I'm no Republican, more of a left leaning centrist on social issues, right leaning centrist on economic issues, but so much of what she stands for would cripple our economy in the short and long term.

I describe myself the same way, yet we disagree.
 

shortylickens

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The only reason anyone not far left pays so much attention to her is that many of her ideas are so ludicrous and would be disastrous for the country's economy, plus the disturbing trend of the Democrats openly embracing hard socialism, that she and her ilk need to either move to more moderate versions of their positions or be stopped altogether.

I'm no Republican, more of a left leaning centrist on social issues, right leaning centrist on economic issues, but so much of what she stands for would cripple our economy in the short and long term.

How do you know anything the democrats propose would "Destroy our economy"?

You have no proof, just Doom and Gloom, and most of that is propaganda by the modern conservative bullshit machine.
 
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The only reason anyone not far left pays so much attention to her is that many of her ideas are so ludicrous and would be disastrous for the country's economy, plus the disturbing trend of the Democrats openly embracing hard socialism, that she and her ilk need to either move to more moderate versions of their positions or be stopped altogether.

I'm no Republican, more of a left leaning centrist on social issues, right leaning centrist on economic issues, but so much of what she stands for would cripple our economy in the short and long term.

Funny how the economy does best under Democratic rule for the last 60 years if what you said is true.
 

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UNCjigga

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The only reason anyone not far left pays so much attention to her is that many of her ideas are so ludicrous and would be disastrous for the country's economy, plus the disturbing trend of the Democrats openly embracing hard socialism, that she and her ilk need to either move to more moderate versions of their positions or be stopped altogether.

I'm no Republican, more of a left leaning centrist on social issues, right leaning centrist on economic issues, but so much of what she stands for would cripple our economy in the short and long term.

The reason your (or anyone's) AOC concern trolling falls on deaf ears is that no Democrat buys any of this talk as genuine, given how zero fucks for ludicrous, un-American ideas was given when Donald Trump proposed them on the campaign trail. The right still bought that bag of bullshit and gave him the nomination and the Presidency.

Are we now supposed to believe y'all suddenly got woke about electing an idealist, party fringe candidate to high office? Someone who disagrees with more mainstream members of their party?

Difference is at least AOC knows who she represents and knows what her constituents value. Trump can't even pretend to believe what more than half of the country thinks of him and his ideas--he'd rather pretend that half doesn't exist or is somehow "illegal". Now tell me again who's dangerous for the country.
 

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I know the Republican machine is so obsessed about her it’s become really weird.
Just in the last two weeks she’s:

Too poor to be in Congress she can’t afford rent until she begins her new job
She looks like she wears an expensive coat per this creep shot picture. She’s too wealthy to be sincere
She has bad grammar
She’s a girl

To me it's evidence of that passive-aggressive sexism that pervades modern Republican thinking.

AOC can't be good because she's not rich enough, because she's not poor enough, because she misspoke once (never mind Trump's wilful, constant lying)... basically, she has to meet impossible expectations that the Republicans probably wouldn't hold against a male Democrat, let alone someone from their own party.

And let's face it, the most frightening thing in the world to a modern Republican is a non-white woman with plans for publicly funded health care and education. She is everything they're against.
 
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Trump recently said that he can't imagine anyone being on the cover of Time than himself. As the Time POTA is for persons of influence he rightly qualifies in a Hitleresque way however he would not care what is said.

Indeed I could see this being the cover

"Donald Trump, the new Pickman's Model" with this as the cover art.

pickmans-model.jpg


Trump would say "See I made the cover of the POTA issue".

So.

Pick Alexandria instead. She represents an alternative to "business as usual" and so also deserves consideration.
 

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I have to admire AOC for how totally fucking unhinged she manages to make conservatives by simply existing.

Not all her policy details are well fleshed out and she'll learn more about government in due course. It's a house seat for christ's sake not Emperor of America. Look at the range certified morons, cretins, and criminals the Republicans have been sending up.

With the world's greatest bullshit artiste to lead them all...
 

child of wonder

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How do you know anything the democrats propose would "Destroy our economy"?

You have no proof, just Doom and Gloom, and most of that is propaganda by the modern conservative bullshit machine.

No, a simple understanding of economic principles will do.

And I didn't say "the Democrats" I was referring specifically to AOC.
 

child of wonder

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The reason your (or anyone's) AOC concern trolling falls on deaf ears is that no Democrat buys any of this talk as genuine, given how zero fucks for ludicrous, un-American ideas was given when Donald Trump proposed them on the campaign trail. The right still bought that bag of bullshit and gave him the nomination and the Presidency.

Are we now supposed to believe y'all suddenly got woke about electing an idealist, party fringe candidate to high office? Someone who disagrees with more mainstream members of their party?

Difference is at least AOC knows who she represents and knows what her constituents value. Trump can't even pretend to believe what more than half of the country thinks of him and his ideas--he'd rather pretend that half doesn't exist or is somehow "illegal". Now tell me again who's dangerous for the country.

Who is "y'all?" I've never voted for a Republican my entire life.

Yes, she does. Her constituents value free shit. The amount of free shit she wants would bankrupt the country and destroy the economy.

Yes, Trump is a lying, narcissistic pile of dog shit.
 

K1052

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The amount of free shit she wants would bankrupt the country and destroy the economy.

The costliest part of her platform, by far, is socialized medicine which you'd pretty much pay for by tearing down the shitty expensive system we've got now. The rest of it is probably a few trillion more that could be raised by restoring taxes to levels not seen since *checks notes* maybe the Clinton era.
 

shortylickens

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No, a simple understanding of economic principles will do.

And I didn't say "the Democrats" I was referring specifically to AOC.

Well thats your problem. I have an advanced understanding and I know you can NOT claim she will destroy Americas economy based on a couple of suggestions. You'd need a lot more info and loads of time to draw any kind of real conclusions.

Maybe if your economic principles didnt come from Breitbart?
 

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I have to admire AOC for how totally fucking unhinged she manages to make conservatives by simply existing.

My local Trumpians haven't stopped going on about her, practically every day since she beat the incumbent in the primary. I swear I'm getting ready to lose it and chew them out over giving her such importance in their lives.
 

child of wonder

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Well thats your problem. I have an advanced understanding and I know you can NOT claim she will destroy Americas economy based on a couple of suggestions. You'd need a lot more info and loads of time to draw any kind of real conclusions.

Maybe if your economic principles didnt come from Breitbart?

Never been to Brietbart ever. It's so adorable when people assume, like children, that anyone that disagrees with them, no matter to what degree , must be the evil "OTHER."

Explain to me how free public college and technical degrees plus the forgiveness of all student loan debt (currently at $1.5T) will not result in a total collapse? Lending institutions that specialize in student loans would go out of business overnight, schools would receive a massive influx of under-qualified students and would be forced to enroll them, existing public college and technical schools would require massive infrastructure upgrades and hiring sprees to avoid average class sizes of >100:1, which would in turn sky rocket the demand for professors meaning institutions would either pay much higher salaries and benefits or employ less competent people, diluting the value of public college degrees in general, not to mention the inflation effect of millions more people holding college degrees and the impact to those that did responsibly pay for degrees out of their own pocket who now find their degree is far less valuable as they have to compete with a job market flooded with more college graduates.

Please bring your advanced understanding to bear and address these fundamental issues with just one of AOC's platforms.