al-Shabaab once again does what Islam does best

[Whiskey16]

There is obviously something about islam that lets these people kill in its name that other religions in the modern world lack in such broad applicability.

Easy for you to be a stupidly ignorant bigot, eh?

Condemn all Muslims. So simple. Them.

Cry out against marginalising hatred, when it suits your argumentative position to condemn all Muslims, while obtusely ignoring the crux of the opening post and the theme of this thread:

"..the world would be a far better place if the entire Islamic world were turned into glass."

The active membership of Anandtech continue to speak - killing the right type of group is ok, and not worth the effort to criticise. Myself and those like me are good, Muslims are bad. Won't shed a tear for their death.

Extremism is at the heart of so many active members here at AnandTech's P&N. Clean house. Change the hatefully violent culture.

 

[Kadarin]

Perma-ban this terrorist fuck.

Zero tolerance. A member with over 40,000 posts has no excuse for ignorance of civility and the rules.

Hate speech to the extreme. Incitement to terrorism and genocide. Another Anders Breivik disciple.

Abusing this formum for a public call to kill your Muslim neighbour and the remaining billion+ in this world. To kill blacks and Jews weren't enough -- all Muslims are the target for death now.

AnandTech -- regular members' continuation to make a more extreme version of Stormfront. Make an example -- greatly publicise the lesson. Violent extremism and terrorists have no voice at AnandTech.

Overreact much?

The point I'm trying to make is that the world *would* be a better place if Islam did not exist. Islam does not seek to advance the human condition, it doesn't advance the arts and sciences, it doesn't seek to contribute anything new to make lives better.

Islam, particularly the Wahhabist ideals that is ever growing in popularity, seeks (1) to become as purely Islamic as possible, and (2) convert or kill/destroy that which is not Islamic. Pretty much everywhere where the Islamic world borders on other cultures, there is conflict, and that conflict is instigated by Muslims. And that conflict is often brutal and dehumanizing, with innocents being targeted in attacks like the one this thread refers to, beheadings that are glorified, people being thrown off buildings, and so forth.

 

[ivwshane]

Overreact much?

The point I'm trying to make is that the world *would* be a better place if Islam did not exist. Islam does not seek to advance the human condition, it doesn't advance the arts and sciences, it doesn't seek to contribute anything new to make lives better.

Islam, particularly the Wahhabist ideals that is ever growing in popularity, seeks (1) to become as purely Islamic as possible, and (2) convert or kill/destroy that which is not Islamic. Pretty much everywhere where the Islamic world borders on other cultures, there is conflict, and that conflict is instigated by Muslims. And that conflict is often brutal and dehumanizing, with innocents being targeted in attacks like the one this thread refers to, beheadings that are glorified, people being thrown off buildings, and so forth.

Oh we get your point and we see no difference between pieces of shit like you and those that support terrorism or extremist views. You are part of the problem.

 

[ivwshane]

You never fail to impress me with your appalling stupidity. I have never advocated for the death of all Muslims. My issue has always been with the over eagerness of some to downplay the behavior of these fringe militant groups. Your posts are a steaming pile of hatred and quite frankly, you are a bad person. You have no idea what my religion is, but that doesn't stop your ignorant blathering. Go bigger yourself with barbed wire.

Learn to read you fucking idiot!

 

[Kadarin]

Oh we get your point and we see no difference between pieces of shit like you and those that support terrorism or extremist views. You are part of the problem.

Pfft. I am right on this.

We respectfully disagree. No advocation of genocide is acceptable here.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[nickqt]

Pfft. I am right on this.

So, what is your specific final solution to the Muslim question?

 

[Whiskey16]

So, what is your specific final solution to the Muslim question?

No clarification is necessary:

(I) believe that the world would be a far better place if the entire Islamic world were turned into glass.

You may have meant your last sentence metaphorically, but we consider such sentiments are beyond the pale. They are not welcome here.

Perknose
Forum Director

karadin is explicitly clear to incite violent terrorism and the genocidal extermination of Muslims. Using this forums to propagate extreme hatred, genocide, and violence, and STILL keep on posting with zero contrition to civil morality:

Pfft. I am right on this.

Sick fucker. members continue to attempt to turn this forum into an even more extremist venue than Stormfront.

You repeatedly go WAY over the top in branding the members of ATP&N with the same untrue and broad brush that a very few use to depict all of Islam.

This must stop.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Blue_Max]

You are a very bigoted person with some serious hate issues that you should try to resolve. I've heard from my Christian friends that finding Jesus can cure your hate issues. Maybe you should consider converting to Christianity and letting go of all your hate.

ka-pwingg!! Deflection! Why talk about the serious issue of the countless calls to violence found in the quran when you can just call me "hateful" for daring to mention them?

 

[Blue_Max]

Perma-ban this terrorist fuck. Zero tolerance.

That you in the middle?

 

[MongGrel]

Meanwhile, in an alternative universe.....

 

[frowertr]

Also ok with the glass statement.

We're not. Rinse, but do not repeat.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Kadarin]

So, what is your specific final solution to the Muslim question?

There really are no good solutions for this. An "Islamic Reformation" is needed, something to shift Islamic ideology away from intolerant, xenophobic Wahhabist thinking, but unfortunately over the last 30+ years momentum has been building in the opposite direction.

Even if all of the oil in the Middle East is used up, there still will exist religious motivations for Islamic expansion.

I also find it funny that those foaming at the mouth calling for me to be permanently banned from this forum are unable to distinguish between "the world would be a better place if" and "we should totally do this, right now!" Critical thinking, people. Learn it, live it, love it.

 

[davmat787]

Yeah, that's the thing. Islam has not had its Reformation, and it's nowhere in sight. While I have no doubt that the great majority of Muslims are peaceable, the faith has no shortage of powerful leaders who espouse hatred and terrorism, and it is a mainstream part of the faith in many parts of the world to marginalize and brutalize females and heretics. I think it would take an exceptionally naive person to disagree that Islam is, at this moment in human history, likely the most destructive force on Earth. While I would never call for violence against Muslims simply because of their faith, I would far rather the religion itself simply ceased to exist. Equating present-day Islam with present-day Christianity or Judaism is completely stupid and misguided moral relativism.

What drives the constant refrains of moral relativism that you mention and is a given in threads like this one? We aren't talking about the hundred plus that were killed or beheaded because they didn't answer a religious question to the satisfaction of the terrorists or any serious discussion of what can be done. The relativism always degenerates these threads, and I have never understood the need for it. And those who author it couldn't explain why they do it anyway with any amount of intellectual honestly as well.



Any ideas, in your opinion, what causes this?

 

[Omar F1]

I meant the contents. I give no fucks if the thing was recorded on archival grade microfiche by the "prophet" himself. It's bullshit from the first word to the last whether it's from last week or the last millennium.

But how do you judge while never read it and absolutely knows nothing beside 5% of it's contents. It's a 600-pages book.

Well, I guess it comes down to religious vs non-religious views about the creation of life, why we were created, and what are the orders of our creator. In this aspect, we're so
Myself? I had my share of thoughts about many aspects after I grown up. I have many indicators to believe in the God and worship him, regardless of the acts of the whole religious populations.

 

[Whiskey16]

That you in the middle?

You hateful, bigoted fuck, unlike the OP by Kardarin, I consistently condemn bigotry and violence.

You post that image? The irony is lost upon you imbeciles.

Blue Max, you defend the OP and his explicit calls to exterminate all Muslims. Blue Max, Kadarin, and many others in this forum truly are akin to these other extremists of Blue Max's image.

 

[Whiskey16]

Also ok with the glass statement.

Another member posting affirmation for the incitement to exterminating genocide.

Free speech?

Civilised judgement ought to expect a zero tolerance against the abuse of this forum to promote hateful incitement to violent terrorism and genocide.

Posts to kill and destroy all Muslims ain't acceptable. I'm Jewish, with 20th (edit: century) lineage to Poland, thereby having first hand family history of what happens when a culture is fostered to develop violently hateful extremism. Zero tolerance. You post such, you no longer post.

 

[Blue_Max]

You hateful, bigoted fuck, unlike the OP by Kardarin, I consistently condemn bigotry and violence.

You post that image? The irony is lost upon you imbeciles.

Blue Max, you defend the OP and his explicit calls to exterminate all Muslims. Blue Max, Kadarin, and many others in this forum truly are akin to these other extremists of Blue Max's image.

So you're willing to actually have a discussion on the "convert or die" stuff your 'perfect' prophet instructed? Or are you just going to continue calling me evil for not wanting to convert (or die.)

For the record, I don't want "all muslims to die" -- I'd like to be able to get along like all other religions in the world are able to do. Getting along with islam means to give in to every single demand or face violence. I know YOU don't see that as a bad thing - the kafirs of the world don't like being bullied.

At what point do we say "ENOUGH!" and truly fight back from an entire religi-culture that wants our subjugation and elimination?


...or can islam evolve past violence? History suggests it won't...

 

[Omar F1]

I believe that considering Muslims as the current-biggest threat is absurd, the least to be said.

Why did you guys forget about the not-so-far WWII, 60-Millions were reportedly killed by the evil greatest powers of the world. And I don't give a crap in which name it was started, then later was savagely-ended and revenged by the war-criminals of both the communists and the allied forces. Oh, and we were gifted here with a small enemy state that were left freely to develop and create only-God-know how many nukes they currently have.

Thank God though; we aren't the bastards who developed and created the nukes. We never been racing to develop WMDs, that won't only defeat your enemies forces, but also take down most of their innocent-civilians along. That is a true terrorism, and that's what we must fight for: disarm the greatest powers of nukes before they kill half the world's population in a matter of days.

 

[nickqt]

So you're willing to actually have a discussion on the "convert or die" stuff your 'perfect' prophet instructed? Or are you just going to continue calling me evil for not wanting to convert (or die.)

For the record, I don't want "all muslims to die" -- I'd like to be able to get along like all other religions in the world are able to do. Getting along with islam means to give in to every single demand or face violence. I know YOU don't see that as a bad thing - the kafirs of the world don't like being bullied.

At what point do we say "ENOUGH!" and truly fight back from an entire religi-culture that wants our subjugation and elimination?


...or can islam evolve past violence? History suggests it won't...

What magical land do you live in where there are no Muslims? It must be Muslim-free since you haven't been murdered yet for not submitting!

Oh, wait, that's not how it works in reality, just on cable news which is selling fear, and your mind.

 

[Blue_Max]

What magical land do you live in where there are no Muslims? It must be Muslim-free since you haven't been murdered yet for not submitting!

Oh, wait, that's not how it works in reality, just on cable news which is selling fear, and your mind.

Quite the opposite, right at the front lines where I get to see the ever-increasing violence, most of which is NOT on the news.

The problem is real, not just a sensationalist news story.

 

[Omar F1]

So you're willing to actually have a discussion on the "convert or die" stuff your 'perfect' prophet instructed? Or are you just going to continue calling me evil for not wanting to convert (or die.)

For the record, I don't want "all muslims to die" -- I'd like to be able to get along like all other religions in the world are able to do. Getting along with islam means to give in to every single demand or face violence. I know YOU don't see that as a bad thing - the kafirs of the world don't like being bullied.

At what point do we say "ENOUGH!" and truly fight back from an entire religi-culture that wants our subjugation and elimination?


...or can islam evolve past violence? History suggests it won't...

Then how possibly it happened that we have had both Christians and Jews living among us all over the history, exactly like some Muslims are currently allowed to live in Europe, Canada and US.
I don't think that we're much different.

By the way, "Whiskey16" has already confessed he is a Jew, not a Muslim
Despite our conflict with Jews over Israel state, when I see some Jew defending Muslims community then I can't find the proper words to show my respect and gratitude for his humanity and independent thinking.

 

[nickqt]

Quite the opposite, right at the front lines where I get to see the ever-increasing violence, most of which is NOT on the news.

The problem is real, not just a sensationalist news story.

Most Muslim violence is directed at other Muslims.

 

[Kadarin]

Pfft. I am right on this.

We respectfully disagree. No advocation of genocide is acceptable here.

Perknose
Forum Director

When I say "I am right on this" I am referring to Post #52. No advocation of genocide by me is nor has been in this thread.

That 'critical thinking' you demand of us recognizes the vast difference between "the world *would* be a better place if Islam did not exist" and "the world would be a far better place if the entire Islamic world were turned into glass.'' That last IS an advocation of genocide, no matter how much you back-pedal. Most people here have told you that. It is not going to be appropriate to post here - ever. This is the 3rd time we've said so. Hopefully some time away will allow it to penetrate.
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[ivwshane]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/02/us-kenya-security-college-idUSKBN0MT0CK20150402

Reminiscent of their 2013 Nairobi mall attack that killed 67 people, but way worse.

Personally, I'm disgusted by this and believe that the world would be a far better place if the entire Islamic world were turned into glass.

You may have meant your last sentence metaphorically, but we consider such sentiments are beyond the pale. They are not welcome here.

Perknose
Forum Director

When I say "I am right on this" I am referring to Post #52. No advocation of genocide by me is nor has been in this thread.

You are either a fucking idiot or a liar, take your pick.

 

[CitizenKain]

Quite the opposite, right at the front lines where I get to see the ever-increasing violence, most of which is NOT on the news.

The problem is real, not just a sensationalist news story.

The only front line you've ever been at is Golden Corral.