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Blackjack200

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You mean the same scientific community who threw out raw data and adjusted their results with a "fudge factor?" Sure, pass the Nobel this way, genius :rolleyes:

Dr Latif has no association with The University of East Anglia you clown. But please, keep grasping at straws.
 

GoPackGo

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You mean CRU which is payed with public funds but has continually denied legitimate FOIA requests over the course of a decade and still refuses to release their code? You mean Jones at CRU who urged other scientists to destroy their data? You mean the CRU that NOAA and NASA depend on to calibrate ground temperatures for their satellites? OH yeah, that's good science. Science we can all believe in.

Hope and climate change!

What I just love here on this forum is if you don't agree with the AGWer's then you don't understand science...you fail, you are an corporate shill for the oils companies...etc...etc...

This all reminds of of the second Highlander movie where taking down the shield will kill us all! or in Total Recall...starting the O2 Generator will kill us all!!!

What THEY fail at is that I don't disagree with a clean environment or reducing pollution...but destroying the economy or implementing fascist regimes in the name of AGW is nothing put pure EVIL.
 

Blackjack200

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Hope and climate change!

Snarky responses and nothing new from the denier camp!

What I just love here on this forum is if you don't agree with the AGWer's then you don't understand science...you fail, you are an corporate shill for the oils companies...etc...etc...

You either don't understand it, or you have nothing to offer. Or both. I'm going to guess both.

This all reminds of of the second Highlander movie where taking down the shield will kill us all! or in Total Recall...starting the O2 Generator will kill us all!!!

What THEY fail at is that I don't disagree with a clean environment or reducing pollution...but destroying the economy or implementing fascist regimes in the name of AGW is nothing put pure EVIL.

And what YOU fail at is that this is not a conversation about the efficacy of various proposed solutions (some of which are certainly fairer than others) but the phenomenon itself. If you don't like the proposed solutions the answer is not to piss on the scientists who are just looking for answers.
 
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GoPackGo

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Snarky responses and nothing new from the denier camp!



You either don't understand it, or you have nothing to offer. Or both. I'm going to guess both.



And what YOU fail at that this is not a conversation about the efficacy of various proposed solutions (some of which are certainly fairer than others) but the phenomenon itself. If you don't like the proposed solutions the answer is not to piss on the scientists who are just looking for answers.

Here is what THEY all FAIL at...if they believed what they were telling the rest of the world they would be the example. Because they are not...I smell BULLSHIT
 

Blackjack200

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Here is what THEY all FAIL at...if they believed what they were telling the rest of the world they would be the example. Because they are not...I smell BULLSHIT

Well you should because you're full of it. Your attempts to paint Dr. Latif as dishonest or corrupt are revolting. You have no facts or evidence to support your beliefs so you just hurl feces. Fuck you.
 

Craig234

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Oh come on some of the people who started the amazon rainforest scare don't even believe it anymore. I think I remember reading we've deforested like at most 15% of the Amazon and half of that is already in regrowth, so you're talking less than 8% is gone after how many years?

It's not just the amazon, it's global. Check the facts.
 

GoPackGo

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Well you should because you're full of it. Your attempts to paint Dr. Latif as dishonest or corrupt are revolting. You have no facts or evidence to support your beliefs so you just hurl feces. Fuck you.

So tell me....why are you so angry? I am saying the whole field is dishonest and corrupt scientists and politicians included.

They seem to be living the do as I say not as I do lifestyle...how can you not see that?
 

Blackjack200

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He's speaking for himself, not the scientific community as a whole. And don't forget he's on the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

He's the subject of the thread and you're the one who brought up East Anglica. Keep braying, donkey. Do you have anything at all?
 

Blackjack200

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So tell me....why are you so angry? I am saying the whole field is dishonest and corrupt scientists and politicians included.

They seem to be living the do as I say not as I do lifestyle...how can you not see that?

What whole field? The whole field of science? Why don't you go live in a shack somewhere and start mailing people bombs?

I don't defend the behavior of politicians or policy hacks that jet around the world - I'm talking about the science involved. This is not a thread about carbon credits, trading, treaties or ANYTHING POLICY RELATED. Every time you try to change the subject you just make yourself look like an idiot. If your opinions are that weak and unsupportable, maybe it's time to re-examine them.

Oh no, much easier to just say OMGCLIMATEGATELOL. Clean the drool off your keyboard you fuckhead.
 

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This crap of discrediting whole groups of scientists as liars and charlatans started with the religious nuts attacking the evidence accumulated from maybe a score of scientific fields verifying and explaining evolution (and I know these people are full of shit). It seems that many of the same people that thought this was OK are doing the same for climate research.

There have been instances of such behavior in rare and isolated instances, and these people have been rewarded with loss of professional stature, future employment, and classification as assholes in the footnotes of history. Such a fate has been pretty universal for these people. To believe that a huge number of scientists have suddenly decided to follow the same path sounds absurd to me.
 

GoPackGo

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What whole field? The whole field of science? Why don't you go live in a shack somewhere and start mailing people bombs?

I don't defend the behavior of politicians or policy hacks that jet around the world - I'm talking about the science involved. This is not a thread about carbon credits, trading, treaties or ANYTHING POLICY RELATED. Every time you try to change the subject you just make yourself look like an idiot. If your opinions are that weak and unsupportable, maybe it's time to re-examine them.

Oh no, much easier to just say OMGCLIMATEGATELOL. Clean the drool off your keyboard you fuckhead.

Why don't you stop with the personal attacks and grow up a little bit. Based on the thread you should be able to infer i am talking about climatology and global warming. Plus the mods around here don't like new threads being started over the same topic...this topic is global warming....
 

GoPackGo

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This crap of discrediting whole groups of scientists as liars and charlatans started with the religious nuts attacking the evidence accumulated from maybe a score of scientific fields verifying and explaining evolution (and I know these people are full of shit). It seems that many of the same people that thought this was OK are doing the same for climate research.

There have been instances of such behavior in rare and isolated instances, and these people have been rewarded with loss of professional stature, future employment, and classification as assholes in the footnotes of history. Such a fate has been pretty universal for these people. To believe that a huge number of scientists have suddenly decided to follow the same path sounds absurd to me.

Now just think if they would have held their conference a couple of months ago using Webex.

Again...these people are not setting the example. If they TRULY believed the issue at hand, that is....
 

Blackjack200

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No, jackass, he's not the subject of the thread.

Remember this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1242011/DAVID-ROSE-The-mini-ice-age-starts-here.html

So we are headed for 2-3 decades of cooler temps. Wouldn't you know, I just closed on some Maine beach front property that I was going to turn into a tropical paradise and get rich.

I am going to now be the anti-Al Gore and tell everyone to spew more CO2 so we don't all freeze are butts off. Al made out quite good with global warming... I will do just as well with global cooling.

This is the OP. It refers to an article about Dr. Latif's research findings. Maybe you should have someone read the thread out loud to you so you can follow along, I don't have time to use small words and simple sentences.

And don't try to divert the issue like the Climategate scandal never happened, it's not gonna work.

omgzlolCLIMATEGATEunng unng unng unng. Fucking chimp.
 
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"Fuck you."

"Clean the drool off your keyboard you fuckhead."

"Fucking chimp."

Anger issues? Intelligence issues? Maturity issues?

Blackjack200...if your opinions so that weak that you have to resort to moronic name calling, maybe it's time to reexamine both your opinions and motives behind them. You're obviously capable of intelligent dialogue. Something to think about.
 

Blackjack200

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Why don't you stop with the personal attacks and grow up a little bit.

You tell me to grow up? Remember this?

Hope and climate change!

Don't even talk to me you piece of shit.

Based on the thread you should be able to infer i am talking about climatology and global warming. Plus the mods around here don't like new threads being started over the same topic...this topic is global warming....

Based on the thread I've inferred that you have low intelligance and little curiosity about the world you live in. The question of whether global warming is happening is completely different from the question of what, if anything, should be done about it. We have 50,000 Obama threads, you post that crap in here because you have no science to back up your denial.
 

Blackjack200

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"Fuck you."

"Clean the drool off your keyboard you fuckhead."

"Fucking chimp."

Anger issues? Intelligence issues? Maturity issues?

Blackjack200...if your opinions so that weak that you have to resort to moronic name calling, maybe it's time to reexamine both your opinions and motives behind them. You're obviously capable of intelligent dialogue. Something to think about.

Hey look, it's my greatest hits. Thanks Casey but you forgot the one where I called you a moron.

I appreciate your concerns, but I'm quite comfortable with my "opinions". Have you adjusted your opinion of Dr. Latif yet? Or do you still consider him one of the world's top climate modellers and a guy you like?
 
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Hey look, it's my greatest hits. Thanks Casey but you forgot the one where I called you a moron.

I appreciate your concerns, but I'm quite comfortable with my "opinions". Have you adjusted your opinion of Dr. Latif yet? Or do you still consider him one of the world's top climate modellers and a guy you like?
My opinion hasn't changed of you nor Dr. Latif.
 

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Remember this?
Remember all the other parts of the article you conveniently left out, which included other scientists? Such as this -
Like Prof Latif, Prof Tsonis is not a climate change ‘denier’. There is, he said, a measure of additional ‘background’ warming due to human activity and greenhouse gases that runs across the MDO cycles.

But he added: ‘I do not believe in catastrophe theories. Man-made warming is balanced by the natural cycles, and I do not trust the computer models which state that if CO2 reaches a particular level then temperatures and sea levels will rise by a given amount.

'These models cannot be trusted to predict the weather for a week, yet they are running them to give readings for 100 years.’


This is the OP. It refers to an article about Dr. Latif's research findings. Maybe you should have someone read the thread out loud to you so you can follow along, I don't have time to use small words and simple sentences.



omgzlolCLIMATEGATEunng unng unng unng. Fucking chimp.

Maybe you should, since you obviously can't understand longer ones, fucking dickwad.
 

Blackjack200

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Remember all the other parts of the article you conveniently left out, which included other scientists? Such as this -

Maybe you should, since you obviously can't understand longer ones, fucking dickwad.

Lol, Tsonis has said repeatedly that he believes in AGW. Go on, keep making a bigger jackass out of yourself.
 

spacejamz

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Lol, Tsonis has said repeatedly that he believes in AGW. Go on, keep making a bigger jackass out of yourself.

That only one here that looks like a jackass is you.

You have been proven wrong several times here and all you can do is resort to name calling.