Ahmed Mohamed seeking $15 million in damages (clock boy)

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Bowfinger

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They never arrested him over a bomb. They arrested him over a hoax bomb. They are two key distinctions that are lost on people without at least 3 neurons, which you so obviously lack even that.
Your nose is growing. They arrested him over a clock. The "hoax bomb" excuse is exactly the overreaction I'm talking about.


There was no racist intent, there was the law, and zero-tolerance policies. Thats it.
Your opinion about racist intent is self-serving speculation. You don't know to what extent race played a role, and neither do I. The difference between us is that I never asserted there was racist intent. I said from the beginning I didn't know. I stuck to facts; you immediately ran with the party line.


That SJW fuckwits like yourself made this into a story and your unabashed lying about what actually happened,
You're lying again, Pinocchio. It's a textbook example of projection. Shall we go back to the first thread and cite all the examples?


STILL, is testament that you lack any moral scruples. Just like he and his parents.

Since you love him so much, just go join him in Qatar.
:D

Rage on, you impotent blowhard. You are a joke.
 

JSt0rm

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I think LK bought too much defense industry stock index and wants constant war.
 

trenchfoot

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Not making any excuses for the kid and his family, but I really do think they got put up to it by blood sucking lawyers and others with agendas that have nothing to do with seeking justice and fair recompense for the agrieved.

It's like if it happened to an African American family, guys like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would have jumped in to pursue their own personal agendas just as they have in the past.
 

bshole

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My opinion is that this lawsuit was planned all along from before the kid even took his "invention" to the school. It was their plan to have him get arrested and then sue for big bucks. In retrospect, it really is obvious. This kid's family are not good people.
 

JSt0rm

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My opinion is that this lawsuit was planned all along from before the kid even took his "invention" to the school. It was their plan to have him get arrested and then sue for big bucks. In retrospect, it really is obvious. This kid's family are not good people.


masterstroke. And you guys want to go to war with these people? Even the 15 year olds are playing the long game. Best to go sit in our underground bunkers and hope the mooslims dont get us.
 

flexy

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I don't think it was "planned" that way, nevertheless this now really pisses me off, especially since the boy moved to Swasiland or wherever now anyway. $15M my ass.
He got so much publicity, job offers etc. that this idiotic incidence actually BENEFITED him more than anything.

So where is this "damage"? Didn't he move to Quatar BECAUSE he got a job offer there? Wow...what a "damage" this is.
 

Remobz

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Not making any excuses for the kid and his family, but I really do think they got put up to it by blood sucking lawyers and others with agendas that have nothing to do with seeking justice and fair recompense for the agrieved.

It's like if it happened to an African American family, guys like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would have jumped in to pursue their own personal agendas just as they have in the past.

I tend to agree with you although the parents can tell the lawyers to screw off right?

They still share some blame although weak minded people tend to cave in easy under pressure.

In the end, the scumbag lawyers are the real nasty ones here through manipulation.
 

LegendKiller

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Your nose is growing. They arrested him over a clock. The "hoax bomb" excuse is exactly the overreaction I'm talking about.
If you went back and read anything I wrote about this subject, you'd know that very early on I was blaming zero-tolerance. Why? Because it creates reactions like this. I saw it personally with a friend of mine in HS. Gun in the car, no ammo, no intent, nothing. Expulsion of a good kid.

I do believe that this was 100% the intent of the father. They tried to get a response from the school the prior time with the sister but failed. The response was normal for the times. Any kid would have gotten it.

Your opinion about racist intent is self-serving speculation. You don't know to what extent race played a role, and neither do I. The difference between us is that I never asserted there was racist intent. I said from the beginning I didn't know. I stuck to facts; you immediately ran with the party line.
It was obvious this was a setup. Why? Because they knew the response and they knew what they could claim, immediately.
 

JSt0rm

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You don't work for Subway, do you? :hmm:


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Sonikku

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He'll never get 15 mil. They always star off with a figure better than they expect to give them room to negotiate down to their target number. Kind of like car salesmanship.
 

Bowfinger

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If you went back and read anything I wrote about this subject, you'd know that very early on I was blaming zero-tolerance.
There are two issues with that take. First, was the policy zero tolerance of clocks? If not, there was still (poor) human judgment involved. Someone made a choice to call this clock a hoax bomb instead of a clock. Several someones there supported that poor judgment, and the ensuing overreaction. Now, they're paying the piper with taxpayer dollars.

Second, if this is the consequence of zero tolerance, your rage is misdirected. Instead of screeching about the kid, and how his supporters should be deported, it seems you should be raging against the stupid zero tolerance policy that may cost taxpayers millions of dollars. Yet somehow you neglected to mention it at all until now (in this thread).


Why? Because it creates reactions like this. I saw it personally with a friend of mine in HS. Gun in the car, no ammo, no intent, nothing. Expulsion of a good kid.
That's truly unfortunate, but it's an apples to oranges comparison. In your friend's case, it was real gun. In this case, it was not a real bomb, or even a real hoax bomb. It was a clock.

That said, I do agree zero tolerance polices are stupid. Authorities should have latitude to use good judgment and apply common sense.


I do believe that this was 100% the intent of the father. They tried to get a response from the school the prior time with the sister but failed. The response was normal for the times. Any kid would have gotten it.


It was obvious this was a setup. Why? Because they knew the response and they knew what they could claim, immediately.
You are welcome to your opinions. They do not merit the same consideration as actual fact, however.
 

ivwshane

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It's funny how lmk goes bat shit for a family exercising one of their rights that could cost people a lot of money, that sure hasn't stopped him from supporting his boy trump who also used his rights to file bankruptcy in order to not pay off bad deals. Let's not bother getting into trump milking the media for personal gain just as this kid was able to do.

But then again everyone pretty much knows legendkiller is a hypocrite when it comes to holding people to similar standards. My guess is it stems from the shitty culture he works in.
 

CitizenKain

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If you went back and read anything I wrote about this subject, you'd know that very early on I was blaming zero-tolerance. Why? Because it creates reactions like this. I saw it personally with a friend of mine in HS. Gun in the car, no ammo, no intent, nothing. Expulsion of a good kid.

I do believe that this was 100% the intent of the father. They tried to get a response from the school the prior time with the sister but failed. The response was normal for the times. Any kid would have gotten it.


It was obvious this was a setup. Why? Because they knew the response and they knew what they could claim, immediately.

I'm sure your idiot friend got what he deserved, what kind of fucking tool leaves a gun in the car?
See, maybe you can pick out out the difference between someone with a device designed to kill someone with a sloppily but together clock. Or not, you seem to have reasoning problems.
 

ivwshane

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I'm sure your idiot friend got what he deserved, what kind of fucking tool leaves a gun in the car?
See, maybe you can pick out out the difference between someone with a device designed to kill someone with a sloppily but together clock. Or not, you seem to have reasoning problems.

Well you missed the thread he posted about his friend whome he condemned in the same manner as this kid! If you would have seen that thread you would have seen just how incredibly consistent he is and why he took the position against the kid.

/s
 

BoberFett

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Why? Looking for move up from your present job?

Yes. I'm tired of being the jizz mopper on the set of your mom's Nasty Old Ladies web video series.

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HamburgerBoy

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Well you missed the thread he posted about his friend whome he condemned in the same manner as this kid! If you would have seen that thread you would have seen just how incredibly consistent he is and why he took the position against the kid.

/s

Because a rifle left in a vehicle from a weekend's hunting trip or whatever is totally comparable to bringing a bomb-esque device into several classrooms when your family has a history of making bomb threats.
 

LegendKiller

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Well you missed the thread he posted about his friend whome he condemned in the same manner as this kid! If you would have seen that thread you would have seen just how incredibly consistent he is and why he took the position against the kid.

/s

There is one common issue here, zero tolerance. I abhor that policy.

Without it this kid wouldn't have been able to race bait the school.
 

ivwshane

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There is one common issue here, zero tolerance. I abhor that policy.

Without it this kid wouldn't have been able to race bait the school.

Yeah, except you didn't keep the focus on that thread about zero tolerance nor did you bring it up in this thread originally. Your motives are completely transparent.
 

Exophase

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My opinion is that this lawsuit was planned all along from before the kid even took his "invention" to the school. It was their plan to have him get arrested and then sue for big bucks. In retrospect, it really is obvious. This kid's family are not good people.

Everything looks more obvious in hindsight. It's easy to look at his clock and say it looked like a bomb after a bunch of other people have said that, but maybe it wasn't so obvious to the kid or his family at the time.

I really don't like judging people for malicious intent without any real hard evidence showing they deliberately planned anything. Not when it's so easy to make mistakes even if they seem strange and dumb to other people.
 
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ivwshane

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Because a rifle left in a vehicle from a weekend's hunting trip or whatever is totally comparable to bringing a bomb-esque device into several classrooms when your family has a history of making bomb threats.

Lol! Yes! You haven't quite convinced me yet, maybe you could spin both more positively and negatively respectively.