Ahmed Mohamed seeking $15 million in damages (clock boy)

[LegendKiller]

Pussified? Weren't you the bitch claiming the clock looked like a bomb? Instead of defending the kid from the moronic policy and the absurd over reaction you were the bitch talking shit about the kid whose psychic powers were so awesome that this whole thing was a setup from the beginning to get money and fame.

Be careful with your backtracking, I don't want you to get hurt tripping over yourself and your previous position. Trumps shtick may work on idiots like you where he can say one thing and then claim he was saying something else but it doesn't work on us and you sir are no trump so stop trying the same crap.

lol - gotta love it. You're too dense to "get it". They knew the reaction they would get and sought it to fame and fortune.

This is the same overreaction anybody would get, especially a known troublemaker.

It's telling that the parents still won't let the school release the records. That they lied time and again. That they had him parade around in the cool little NASA shirt to make him seem more innocent. That even Mark Cuban said he was being fed answers That he doesn't seem to know shit about electronics.

But you can't spot a scam. Perhaps you should live in NYC for a while, either you'll wise up or a bunch of people are going to be a lot better off.

 

[Vic]

lol - gotta love it. You're too dense to "get it". They knew the reaction they would get and sought it to fame and fortune.

This is the same overreaction anybody would get, especially a known troublemaker.

It's telling that the parents still won't let the school release the records. That they lied time and again. That they had him parade around in the cool little NASA shirt to make him seem more innocent. That even Mark Cuban said he was being fed answers That he doesn't seem to know shit about electronics.

But you can't spot a scam. Perhaps you should live in NYC for a while, either you'll wise up or a bunch of people are going to be a lot better off.

Why do you fixate on this kind of petty shit as though it's the most important thing in the world?
Even if your far-fetched theories are true, the only legitimate cause that you have to be upset is that they outsmarted everybody.

 

[Humpy]

It also has strict sharia law, forced labor, flogging and many other things. Although, ironically, it is one of the more progressive gulf states. That said, it is still nothing more than a well-polished turd.

It's just like Texas only with fewer brown people and less oil!

 

[werepossum]

My opinion is that this lawsuit was planned all along from before the kid even took his "invention" to the school. It was their plan to have him get arrested and then sue for big bucks. In retrospect, it really is obvious. This kid's family are not good people.

I suspect you are correct. Although I seriously doubt they expected it to go to the point of him being arrested.

You don't work for Subway, do you? :hmm:

Took me a minute.

 

[CZroe]

Your nose is growing. They arrested him over a clock. The "hoax bomb" excuse is exactly the overreaction I'm talking about.



Your opinion about racist intent is self-serving speculation. You don't know to what extent race played a role, and neither do I. The difference between us is that I never asserted there was racist intent. I said from the beginning I didn't know. I stuck to facts; you immediately ran with the party line.



You're lying again, Pinocchio. It's a textbook example of projection. Shall we go back to the first thread and cite all the examples?





Rage on, you impotent blowhard. You are a joke.

You STILL don't think it was or could be intended a hoax bomb?! There is so much evidence INCLUDING this lawsuit that you have to at least consider the possibility.

Now, what party is the "the clock was clearly a manufactured clock" party?

Agreed. That photo was a potent PR tool, and the family used it well.

They also staged it, requesting that he be put back in handcuffs for the picture. Was it chance that he was wearing his NASA shirt that day? :hmm:

I don't think it was "planned" that way, nevertheless this now really pisses me off, especially since the boy moved to Swasiland or wherever now anyway. $15M my ass.
He got so much publicity, job offers etc. that this idiotic incidence actually BENEFITED him more than anything.

So where is this "damage"? Didn't he move to Quatar BECAUSE he got a job offer there? Wow...what a "damage" this is.

My suspicion is that they don't want him to slip up and say something to a friend or teacher here that might blow the lid off like Balloon Boy did. Every indication is that it was planned this way from the start as they were poised and ready to take advantage of it and everything Ahmed said to the media could not have gone better if he were coached (which indicates that he likely was).

There are two issues with that take. First, was the policy zero tolerance of clocks? If not, there was still (poor) human judgment involved. Someone made a choice to call this clock a hoax bomb instead of a clock. Several someones there supported that poor judgment, and the ensuing overreaction. Now, they're paying the piper with taxpayer dollars.

Second, if this is the consequence of zero tolerance, your rage is misdirected. Instead of screeching about the kid, and how his supporters should be deported, it seems you should be raging against the stupid zero tolerance policy that may cost taxpayers millions of dollars. Yet somehow you neglected to mention it at all until now (in this thread).


That's truly unfortunate, but it's an apples to oranges comparison. In your friend's case, it was real gun. In this case, it was not a real bomb, or even a real hoax bomb. It was a clock.

That said, I do agree zero tolerance polices are stupid. Authorities should have latitude to use good judgment and apply common sense.


You are welcome to your opinions. They do not merit the same consideration as actual fact, however.

You go on about opinion vs. fact and yet insist that it's not a hoax bomb. All indications are that they were counting on this which WOULD make it a hoax bomb. Did you forget that his sisters tried to pull the same thing before and that he admitted that it looked suspicious before modifying it in a way that would undeniably INCREASE suspicion?

 

[ivwshane]

This thread is full of tough boys, geeze. This is just one of many examples that's occurred so far in this thread alone and that AT - and P&N in particular - has become plagued with:




I realize this is just chest beating going back and forth amongst mainly teenage (I hope) boys and my comment really isn't about his actual opinion on anything, but the extremely juvenile and vile nature he goes about expressing it. Twice stating "weren't you the bitch" in the same post, and in response to something being called pussified, no wonder that this place has so few female members. And this is just one post from one member amongst many.

I hate to sound like I'm trying to be PC or that somehow I'm offended because assuredly I'm not, but it just strikes me as odd that the other message board I visit which is essentially a redneck filled college football forum has more maturity and class than this technology geared one.

OK PC police! It's not like you had the exact same opinion!

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37726717&postcount=946

These were always my forums of choice, but over the past year or so I've branched out (to non-tech sites to boot) and the difference is night and day. It makes you realize how insanely PC these forums have become.

When you get off your high horse be sure it doesn't kick you in the head

 

[Bowfinger]

lol - gotta love it. You're too dense to "get it". They knew the reaction they would get and sought it to fame and fortune.

This is the same overreaction anybody would get, especially a known troublemaker.

It's telling that the parents still won't let the school release the records. That they lied time and again. That they had him parade around in the cool little NASA shirt to make him seem more innocent. That even Mark Cuban said he was being fed answers That he doesn't seem to know shit about electronics.

But you can't spot a scam. Perhaps you should live in NYC for a while, either you'll wise up or a bunch of people are going to be a lot better off.

I see why you're such a Trump fan. You share his love for telling imaginative stories without fretting about facts and accuracy.

 

[Bowfinger]

You STILL don't think it was or could be intended a hoax bomb?! There is so much evidence INCLUDING this lawsuit that you have to at least consider the possibility.
[ ... ]
You go on about opinion vs. fact and yet insist that it's not a hoax bomb. All indications are that they were counting on this which WOULD make it a hoax bomb. Did you forget that his sisters tried to pull the same thing before and that he admitted that it looked suspicious before modifying it in a way that would undeniably INCREASE suspicion?

Are you also a big Trump fan, by chance? Although, "his sisters tried to pull the same thing before" is such a blatant lie I'm not sure even he would try it.

 

[Eli]

:hmm:

I don't have any problems with this. The dollar amount might seem a little absurd, but you all act like he's representing himself. Highly doubtful, this is the work of adults.

 

[CZroe]

Are you also a big Trump fan, by chance? Although, "his sisters tried to pull the same thing before" is such a blatant lie I'm not sure even he would try it.

Can't stand Trump.

Ahmed's sister was suspended for a bomb threat too.

After the MSNBC segment, Eyman[, Ahmed's older sister,] and I sit down in the hallway where she says the same thing happened to her as Ahmed.

“I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with.”

COINCIDENCE?! If she was wronged too in such a similar way, why do you think they aren't making a big deal out of her suspension too? The only mention was in a slip to a reporter while no one has said anything before or since, not even her parents.

You know why she didn't get arrested? Because she didn't bring a prop/hoax bomb or something that could be confused for a bomb to school. You know what that sounds like? It sounds like Plan A didn't work. It sounds like Ahmed was Plan B.

:hmm:

I don't have any problems with this. The dollar amount might seem a little absurd, but you all act like he's representing himself. Highly doubtful, this is the work of adults.

If adults put him up to this whole thing from the start as everything points to then you should have a problem with it. This isn't about him, it's about his whole family. Always has been.

 

[Bowfinger]

Can't stand Trump.

Ahmed's sister was suspended for a bomb threat too.

COINCIDENCE?! If she was wronged too in such a similar way, why do you think they aren't making a big deal out of her suspension too? The only mention was in a slip to a reporter while no one has said anything before or since, not even her parents.

You know why she didn't get arrested? Because she didn't bring a prop/hoax bomb or something that could be confused for a bomb to school. You know what that sounds like? It sounds like Plan A didn't work. It sounds like Ahmed was Plan B.


If adults put him up to this whole thing from the start as everything points to then you should have a problem with it. This isn't about him, it's about his whole family. Always has been.

Yes, I am aware of her story. It's fascinating that you can twist it into, "his sisters tried to pull the same thing before" without a hint of shame. As for the rest, you have a vivid imagination.

 

[werepossum]

Yes, I am aware of her story. It's fascinating that you can twist it into, "his sisters tried to pull the same thing before" without a hint of shame. As for the rest, you have a vivid imagination.

Yes, clearly one needs a vivid imagination to see any similarity between him getting suspended from school for bringing something the school somehow thought was a bomb and his sister getting suspended from school for threatening to bring a bomb. I mean, c'mon. The only similarities here are the words bomb and school and suspension, which is obviously purely coincidental.

 

[zinfamous]

Yes, clearly one needs a vivid imagination to see any similarity between him getting suspended from school for bringing something the school somehow thought was a bomb and his sister getting suspended from school for threatening to bring a bomb. I mean, c'mon. The only similarities here are the words bomb and school and suspension, which is obviously purely coincidental.

Honestly at this point, I think the most casual observers of this situation can rather easily determine that this boils down to a family of cunts trying to bilk their state out of cash through exploiting current events.

 

[Bowfinger]

Yes, clearly one needs a vivid imagination to see any similarity between him getting suspended from school for bringing something the school somehow thought was a bomb and his sister getting suspended from school for threatening to bring a bomb. I mean, c'mon. The only similarities here are the words bomb and school and suspension, which is obviously purely coincidental.

Yawn. You really should see a proctologist about removing that chip. Anyway, huff and puff as you must, "his sisters tried to pull the same thing before" is a lie. It's no surprise you support it.

 

[Bowfinger]

Honestly at this point, I think the most casual observers of this situation can rather easily determine that this boils down to a family of cunts trying to bilk their state out of cash through exploiting current events.

How very American of them.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Qatar is a helluva long way to chase an ambulance. This is totally going to revive "Bring Your Dismantled Clock To School in a Pencil Case Day".

 

[Eli]

The idea that adults put him up to this whole thing is absolutely absurd. Because they knew him bringing that to school would cause the reaction it did?

Give me a break.

My point was - there is no doubt he was treated unfairly. Isn't that exactly the type of thing that results in lawsuits? Why is this surprising?

 

[CZroe]

The idea that adults put him up to this whole thing is absolutely absurd. Because they knew him bringing that to school would cause the reaction it did?

Give me a break.

My point was - there is no doubt he was treated unfairly. Isn't that exactly the type of thing that results in lawsuits? Why is this surprising?

He didn't just bring it to school to get that reaction. Learn something. Read. Where have you been? If I wanted to get a reaction with that without out-right portraying it as a bomb (deniability) you'd better believe that I could get one.

He shopped it around and ignored teachers who told him to keep it to himself, set it to go off in class, and gave cagey answers to the police. He wasn't nearly as forthcoming with them as he was with the sympathetic media when asked simple questions like why he brought it or why he took it apart or why he put it in that case. He was clearly coached in what to say every step of the way during and after (his father on the phone at the station, his sister on the phone during the interview, etc) and all indications are that he was coached before hand. He admitted that he knew it already looked suspicious yet he modified it in a way that makes it MORE suspicious ACCORDING TO PRE-ESTABLISHED FEDERAL GUIDELINES. The parents were already attention-seeking anti-Islamophobia activists. His interest in electronics, engineering, etc was undeniably played up by everyone repeatedly claiming that he built something he did not build. Even the NASA shirt and the date (next school day after Sept 11) adds to the atmosphere that this was staged (I'd be interested to know when the shirt and Vaultz pencil case were purchased). This absolutely is a scam of some kind.

There is PLENTY of doubt that he was treated unfairly. You don't seem to realize that everything you know about the events leading up to it has been one-sided because the school is not allowed to talk about it. Even so, they made it very clear that he was not cooperating with them before hand, withholding answers which he gladly shared with the media ("I wanted to show my teacher"). They went as far as appealing to the parents to let them release it and claiming that it would 100% exonerate their response. To claim that there is "no doubt" that he was treated unfairly means you have unabashedly ignored these bold claims and embraced the claims of those who are withholding the information and manipulating the media (father had them put the handcuffs back on for the famous photo-op of Ahmed in cuffs, for example).

 

[CZroe]

Yes, I am aware of her story. It's fascinating that you can twist it into, "his sisters tried to pull the same thing before" without a hint of shame. As for the rest, you have a vivid imagination.

You are in denial. If it were coincidental they would be SCREAMING about BOTH incidents to the media. It's obvious that they don't want to talk about that one and I can think of a likely reason why... can YOU?

Yes, clearly one needs a vivid imagination to see any similarity between him getting suspended from school for bringing something the school somehow thought was a bomb and his sister getting suspended from school for threatening to bring a bomb. I mean, c'mon. The only similarities here are the family and the words bomb and school and suspension, which is obviously purely coincidental.

FTFY

Yawn. You really should see a proctologist about removing that chip. Anyway, huff and puff as you must, "his sisters tried to pull the same thing before" is a lie. It's no surprise you support it.

What if it turns out that they DID? Ever think about that? So far every dumbass assumption Ahmed's supports have made have ended up being egg on their face but you soldier on undeterred and unconcerned about the potential for being dead wrong.

 

[Atreus21]

He didn't just bring it to school to get that reaction. Learn something. Read. Where have you been? If I wanted to get a reaction with that without out-right portraying it as a bomb (deniability) you'd better believe that I could get one.

He shopped it around and ignored teachers who told him to keep it to himself, set it to go off in class, and gave cagey answers to the police. He wasn't nearly as forthcoming with them as he was with the sympathetic media when asked simple questions like why he brought it or why he took it apart or why he put it in that case. He was clearly coached in what to say every step of the way during and after (his father on the phone at the station, his sister on the phone during the interview, etc) and all indications are that he was coached before hand. He admitted that he knew it already looked suspicious yet he modified it in a way that makes it MORE suspicious ACCORDING TO PRE-ESTABLISHED FEDERAL GUIDELINES. The parents were already attention-seeking anti-Islamophobia activists. His interest in electronics, engineering, etc was undeniably played up by everyone repeatedly claiming that he built something he did not build. Even the NASA shirt and the date (next school day after Sept 11) adds to the atmosphere that this was staged (I'd be interested to know when the shirt and Vaultz pencil case were purchased). This absolutely is a scam of some kind.

There is PLENTY of doubt that he was treated unfairly. You don't seem to realize that everything you know about the events leading up to it has been one-sided because the school is not allowed to talk about it. Even so, they made it very clear that he was not cooperating with them before hand, withholding answers which he gladly shared with the media ("I wanted to show my teacher"). They went as far as appealing to the parents to let them release it and claiming that it would 100% exonerate their response. To claim that there is "no doubt" that he was treated unfairly means you have unabashedly ignored these bold claims and embraced the claims of those who are withholding the information and manipulating the media (father had them put the handcuffs back on for the famous photo-op of Ahmed in cuffs, for example).

I haven't been following this issue steadily. Is this true? Is there a link or something?

 

[CZroe]

I haven't been following this issue steadily. Is this true? Is there a link or something?

Which ones? It's been reported from the start. The first teacher he showed it to told him to keep it in his bag and to not show anyone else because he knew it looked like a bomb. Ahmed either plugged it in and set the alarm or connected a battery so that it would go off in his bag which is what alerted another teacher (no battery is visible in the photos we have). The police immediately said that he was not as cooperative with them and did not give the explanations that he was giving the media. They appealed to the family to allow them to release their information to show why they really detained him but got no response. In a video interview we have all seen he admits to disabling the lock and tying it with wire "to avoid suspicion," which makes no sense (he knew other kids had the same pencil box and misshapen packages with protruding wires are a known bullet point for suspicious packages according to established Federal/USPS guidelines).

Which link do you need? The reporter who heard his sister on the line listening in and feeding him answers? The news video interview where Ahmed admits that he knew it looked suspicious? The police statement? The revelation that his father told his sister over the phone to have him put back in cuffs to take a picture? It's going to be a lot of links but I can provide every one you need, just tell me which.

 

[TheSlamma]

How could anyone have ever seen this was a political stunt from the start... oh yeah it just took using the powers of observation. Not right wing bias.. not left wing bias.. just face value.

 

[Bowfinger]

He didn't just bring it to school to get that reaction. Learn something. Read. [ ... cool story trimmed ...]. Even the NASA shirt and the date (next school day after Sept 11) adds to the atmosphere that this was staged (I'd be interested to know when the shirt and Vaultz pencil case were purchased). This absolutely is a scam of some kind.

There is PLENTY of doubt that he was treated unfairly. You don't seem to realize that everything you know about the events leading up to it has been one-sided because the school is not allowed to talk about it. [ ... more creative writing ... ]

You have a vivid imagination. I left in a couple of your main howlers, just to show how far off the deep end you've gone. In general, however, I'll simply note your consistent habit of treating far-fetched speculation as gospel. For example, your nonsensical suggestion that not knowing the school's side of the story somehow proves the kid is guilty. It's empty, self-serving noise.

You are in denial. If it were coincidental they would be SCREAMING about BOTH incidents to the media. It's obvious that they don't want to talk about that one and I can think of a likely reason why... can YOU?

Because conspiracy nuts might pervert it into something it wasn't. Like they did.

Fevered imagination aside, the only facts we have are that the sister -- singular -- claims she was suspended in middle school when one girl accused her of a bomb threat. While I realize it is inconceivable to you that one tweenage girl might bear false witness on another (especially against some weird foreigner in the heart of redneck Texas), here in the real world we know middle school children can be horrid little monsters capable of almost anything. The bottom line is one of those two girls was lying, either the accuser or accused, and I have no way of knowing which one. Neither do you, but that hasn't stopped you from swallowing the accusation because it fits your narrative.

What if it turns out that they DID? Ever think about that?

Sure. I've always conceded it's a possibility. Unlike you, I refuse to treat speculation as fact. Either way, the school and police overreacted. Whether it's because they stupidly fell for a scam, stupidly were racist, stupidly chose to treat a clock as something that fell under a zero tolerance policy, or just stupidly decided the kid needed to be taught a lesson, the sad truth is they reacted stupidly. And now taxpayers are going to pay the bill for their stupid overreaction.

So far every dumbass assumption Ahmed's supports have made have ended up being egg on their face but you soldier on undeterred and unconcerned about the potential for being dead wrong.

Your imagination is running amok. You're the one with egg dripping from your face.

 

[sm625]

At this point anything that raises the cost to the taxpayer is a good thing because it accelerates the inevitable collapse of the broken public education system. Cloward Piven at its finest.

 

[Blue_Max]

How could anyone have ever seen this was a political stunt from the start... oh yeah it just took using the powers of observation. Not right wing bias.. not left wing bias.. just face value.

The ones who didn't were the usual culprits wearing rose-coloured glasses and presuming only the most positive qualities from him simply for being high up the 'progressive stack'.

Hope he enjoyed his trip to the white house before flipping the bird at all of America.


Really, all this is is enactment of one of the aspects of sharia law; No one is allowed to criticize islam or its followers in any way. Ever.
This is an extractment of the 'jizya' tax and making others feel 'subjugated before islam'... straight out of the quran. [slow clap]