After the last eight years, what could possibly posses you to vote Republican?

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child of wonder

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It's pretty simple: the baby boomers.

As people near death they become terrified and clutch even tighter to religion. The baby boomers are in their 50s/60s now and don't hesitate to vote unlike many 20/30 somethings.
 

Eeezee

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Some people think Bush is a great American hero. They are so heavily brainwashed that they can only see red.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Atreus21

So stop all this self-righteous bullshit.
And leave it to those like you who thrive on it.

At least I don't deny it. I believe I'm right, and you're wrong. Liberals pretend to behave as if all viewpoints are valid, while in actuality are just as close-minded as me. It's deliberately misleading.
Good thing I'm not a Liberal.
:laugh:
I walk like a duck, quack like a duck, shit like a duck, hang out with ducks, but I'm a beautiful swan dammit! :roll:
Thinking you and the Republicans are fucking assholes doesn't make me a liberal, just right.
As I posted in a previous thread, you seem to like to take a simpleton's approach to voting. Heck, you take a simpleton's approach to everything from what I've seen. Perhaps you aren't a liberal, I think that besmirches the word liberal. You're just another partisan hack, the only difference is your motivation.
Seeing things for what they are is simple so if that makes me a Simpleton then fine, so be it.
 

Anubis

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im curious as to why you think electing a Dem will actually solve anything, it wont

im not voting for either of the 2 dbags running this year
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Atreus21

So stop all this self-righteous bullshit.
And leave it to those like you who thrive on it.

At least I don't deny it. I believe I'm right, and you're wrong. Liberals pretend to behave as if all viewpoints are valid, while in actuality are just as close-minded as me. It's deliberately misleading.
Good thing I'm not a Liberal.
:laugh:
I walk like a duck, quack like a duck, shit like a duck, hang out with ducks, but I'm a beautiful swan dammit! :roll:

What an ass. You post a :laugh: and some crap and another emoticon and you think your absurd remarks can wipe out years of history with Red Dawn's posts that clearly and without a single shred of doubt are the work of no liberal. Your sad and sickening attempt to insult is really shameful. You are an idiot and you demonstrate it clearly.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
We have witnessed what a one party govt can do. Lets not give the other party at least 4 years to prove the previous 8 werent a fluke. If the republicans owned congress Obama would get my vote.

That is all.
Yeah right, what a load of bullshit.

Believe what you want I really dont give a shit. I am not bound by party anymore. The republicans have completely failed my litmus test.

Did you vote for Kerry in 2004 while the Republicans held the House + Senate?
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: danzig
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Stupidity and/or poor self-esteem (specifically, inability to admit fault and learn from errors).

Locally , I have seen many people who are finally admitting to this.

I screwed up and voted for GWB the first time. Shortly after , it was like GWB & Palpatine were merging into the same person.
Many of us didn't see him for the refuse he is. That's ok just as long as we have learned from our mistakes. That's all anybody can ask of us.

You nominated McCain. Obviously you didn't learn from your mistakes.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
We have witnessed what a one party govt can do. Lets not give the other party at least 4 years to prove the previous 8 werent a fluke. If the republicans owned congress Obama would get my vote.

That is all.
Yeah right, what a load of bullshit.

Believe what you want I really dont give a shit. I am not bound by party anymore. The republicans have completely failed my litmus test.

Did you vote for Kerry in 2004 while the Republicans held the House + Senate?
Of course not, even a Simpleton such as myself can see what a lying POS he is.
 

blackangst1

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Topic: New Messages After the last eight years, what could possibly posses you to vote Republican?

Answer: Because GWB doesnt reflect the ideals of the GOP.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: alchemize
I walk like a duck, quack like a duck, shit like a duck, hang out with ducks, but I'm a beautiful swan dammit! :roll:
You're talking about McCain, right?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Topic: New Messages After the last eight years, what could possibly posses you to vote Republican?

Answer: Because GWB doesnt reflect the ideals of the GOP.

Another reason the brain dead will be voting 90% McBush. The Republican mindset is a cornucopia of imbecilic rationalizations.

Hint: No elected Republican reflects the ideals of the GOP.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Topic: New Messages After the last eight years, what could possibly posses you to vote Republican?

Answer: Because GWB doesnt reflect the ideals of the GOP.

Another reason the brain dead will be voting 90% McBush. The Republican mindset is a cornucopia of imbecilic rationalizations.

Hint: No elected Republican reflects the ideals of the GOP.

it's posts like this that give me doubts about voting for Obama.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Skoorb
they think there is some kind of harmony in the universe if they can have a republican president and a democratic congress so that they can be stops against each other.

wouldn't we be far more likely to have checks, balances, and oversight with a divided government?

Yes, but considering the Democrats in name only who are sitting now and the fact there there is only a slim majority (which could easily go the other way this election), I think it's best that we discuss this and how the Republicans of this board are being woefully dishonest.

Let's go over the facts
Senate - 49 seats Republican, 49 seats Democrat, 2 Independent
Obviously the Democrats don't have a majority there

House - 202 Republicans (-30 from 2004), 233 Democrat (+31 from 2004), 0 Independent (-1 from 2004)
Here we see that the number of House seats can easily swing the other way. The majority that the Democrats hold is slim. They only need to lose 16 seats to the Republicans in order to lose their majority. In a 435 seat house, that's effectively nothing.

In other words, voting for McCain based on Congressional numbers is dishonest at best. The Republicans held a significant majority in 2004, yet they all happily voted for Bush and another 4 years of excessive spending and government inflation. The Democrats hold a few extra House seats this time around and suddenly voting for McCain is the just and right thing to do?

I'm calling out the Republicans of this thread for their bullshit. You are NOT voting for McCain because of the Democrat's slim majority in the House, which could easily disappear this year.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Skoorb
they think there is some kind of harmony in the universe if they can have a republican president and a democratic congress so that they can be stops against each other.

wouldn't we be far more likely to have checks, balances, and oversight with a divided government?

Yes, but considering the Democrats in name only who are sitting now and the fact there there is only a slim majority (which could easily go the other way this election), I think it's best that we discuss this and how the Republicans of this board are being woefully dishonest.

Let's go over the facts
Senate - 49 seats Republican, 49 seats Democrat, 2 Independent
Obviously the Democrats don't have a majority there

House - 202 Republicans (-30 from 2004), 233 Democrat (+31 from 2004), 0 Independent (-1 from 2004)
Here we see that the number of House seats can easily swing the other way. The majority that the Democrats hold is slim. They only need to lose 16 seats to the Republicans in order to lose their majority. In a 435 seat house, that's effectively nothing.

In other words, voting for McCain based on Congressional numbers is dishonest at best. The Republicans held a significant majority in 2004, yet they all happily voted for Bush and another 4 years of excessive spending and government inflation. The Democrats hold a few extra House seats this time around and suddenly voting for McCain is the just and right thing to do?

I'm calling out the Republicans of this thread for their bullshit. You are NOT voting for McCain because of the Democrat's slim majority in the House, which could easily disappear this year.
Of course they are lying, that's what Republicans do when they are embarrassed about their candidates.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Topic: New Messages After the last eight years, what could possibly posses you to vote Republican?

Answer: Because GWB doesnt reflect the ideals of the GOP.

Another reason the brain dead will be voting 90% McBush. The Republican mindset is a cornucopia of imbecilic rationalizations.

Hint: No elected Republican reflects the ideals of the GOP.

it's posts like this that give me doubts about voting for Obama.

???

None of the ranking Republicans have any true conservative values. They are all supporters of big government and fewer individual or state rights. Why is that so hard to understand?

Every time someone suggests that the Democrats are big spenders, I laugh. We spend but a fraction of what the Republicans spend and plan to spend. It's amazing how the followers of the Republican party can believe in one set of ideals yet vote for people who never represent these ideals in any form.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Skoorb
they think there is some kind of harmony in the universe if they can have a republican president and a democratic congress so that they can be stops against each other.

wouldn't we be far more likely to have checks, balances, and oversight with a divided government?

Yes, but considering the Democrats in name only who are sitting now and the fact there there is only a slim majority (which could easily go the other way this election), I think it's best that we discuss this and how the Republicans of this board are being woefully dishonest.

Let's go over the facts
Senate - 49 seats Republican, 49 seats Democrat, 2 Independent
Obviously the Democrats don't have a majority there

House - 202 Republicans (-30 from 2004), 233 Democrat (+31 from 2004), 0 Independent (-1 from 2004)
Here we see that the number of House seats can easily swing the other way. The majority that the Democrats hold is slim. They only need to lose 16 seats to the Republicans in order to lose their majority. In a 435 seat house, that's effectively nothing.

In other words, voting for McCain based on Congressional numbers is dishonest at best. The Republicans held a significant majority in 2004, yet they all happily voted for Bush and another 4 years of excessive spending and government inflation. The Democrats hold a few extra House seats this time around and suddenly voting for McCain is the just and right thing to do?

I'm calling out the Republicans of this thread for their bullshit. You are NOT voting for McCain because of the Democrat's slim majority in the House, which could easily disappear this year.

The 109th Congress House had 229-232 Republicans, and the 108th had 225-228 Republicans. Apparently that's a significant majority, while having 233 seats is a slim majority.

Right....

The Republican party had 2 extra Senate seats in 2004, and had total control. The Democrats have 2 extra seats in 2008, and are split down the middle.

Yay for math!
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Skoorb
they think there is some kind of harmony in the universe if they can have a republican president and a democratic congress so that they can be stops against each other.

wouldn't we be far more likely to have checks, balances, and oversight with a divided government?
Like the kind during the first 3/4 of Bush's reign of stupidity?
You nominated McCain. Obviously you didn't learn from your mistakes.
I certainly didn't pick him, but he was the best of the lot. Giuliani was basically a demon, fvckabee was dumber than a bag of bones, and romney was a greasy salesman if there ever was one.
Because GWB doesnt reflect the ideals of the GOP.
Really, well most of them sure supported him for the last 8 years, didn't they?
it's posts like this that give me doubts about voting for Obama.
Voting for McCain over Obama will not hurt Moonbeam, it will only hurt the nation. He cannot be stopped and will post his message--whatever in God's name it is--regardless. In this case, I agree with his message, though ;)
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Topic: New Messages After the last eight years, what could possibly posses you to vote Republican?

Answer: Because GWB doesnt reflect the ideals of the GOP.

He didn't represent those ideas 4 years ago or 8 years ago, yet the Republicans voted for him. All you've suggested is that the Republican voting base will vote the party ticket no matter who is on it.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Topic: New Messages After the last eight years, what could possibly posses you to vote Republican?

Answer: Because GWB doesnt reflect the ideals of the GOP.

Another reason the brain dead will be voting 90% McBush. The Republican mindset is a cornucopia of imbecilic rationalizations.

Hint: No elected Republican reflects the ideals of the GOP.

it's posts like this that give me doubts about voting for Obama.

Pulled right out of that cornucopia. You are full of doubts about Obama. What you can't explain in any rational language is why. You are like somebody who doesn't like gays. You don't know why but they fill you wit doubt.

There's nothing to say to your absurd comment if you can't supply some reasoning? You are a bigot.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Topic: New Messages After the last eight years, what could possibly posses you to vote Republican?

Answer: Because GWB doesnt reflect the ideals of the GOP.

Another reason the brain dead will be voting 90% McBush. The Republican mindset is a cornucopia of imbecilic rationalizations.

Hint: No elected Republican reflects the ideals of the GOP.

it's posts like this that give me doubts about voting for Obama.

???

None of the ranking Republicans have any true conservative values. They are all supporters of big government and fewer individual or state rights. Why is that so hard to understand?

Every time someone suggests that the Democrats are big spenders, I laugh. We spend but a fraction of what the Republicans spend and plan to spend. It's amazing how the followers of the Republican party can believe in one set of ideals yet vote for people who never represent these ideals in any form.

"Republicans are for lower taxes. Republicans are for you and your small business. Republicans are fiscally responsible."

This bullshit has been so deeply ingrained in the psyche of sheep they can't believe anything else even with 8 years of disaster staring them in the face.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Skoorb
they think there is some kind of harmony in the universe if they can have a republican president and a democratic congress so that they can be stops against each other.

wouldn't we be far more likely to have checks, balances, and oversight with a divided government?

Yes, but considering the Democrats in name only who are sitting now and the fact there there is only a slim majority (which could easily go the other way this election), I think it's best that we discuss this and how the Republicans of this board are being woefully dishonest.

Let's go over the facts
Senate - 49 seats Republican, 49 seats Democrat, 2 Independent
Obviously the Democrats don't have a majority there

House - 202 Republicans (-30 from 2004), 233 Democrat (+31 from 2004), 0 Independent (-1 from 2004)
Here we see that the number of House seats can easily swing the other way. The majority that the Democrats hold is slim. They only need to lose 16 seats to the Republicans in order to lose their majority. In a 435 seat house, that's effectively nothing.

In other words, voting for McCain based on Congressional numbers is dishonest at best. The Republicans held a significant majority in 2004, yet they all happily voted for Bush and another 4 years of excessive spending and government inflation. The Democrats hold a few extra House seats this time around and suddenly voting for McCain is the just and right thing to do?

I'm calling out the Republicans of this thread for their bullshit. You are NOT voting for McCain because of the Democrat's slim majority in the House, which could easily disappear this year.

The 109th Congress House had 229-232 Republicans, and the 108th had 225-228 Republicans. Apparently that's a significant majority, while having 233 seats is a slim majority.

Right....

The Republican party had 2 extra Senate seats in 2004, and had total control. The Democrats have 2 extra seats in 2008, and are split down the middle.

Yay for math!

Math is obviously not your strong point.

In the 2006 election, as opposed to the 2000-2004 elections, the House swung by 60 seats! Taking that into consideration, it is statistically likely that the Republicans will pick up more seats this time around as opposed to previous elections (when change was slower). This is basic time-dependent statistical fluctuations that we're talking about. A large deviation like what we saw in 2006 is most likely to accompany a so-called 'pendulum swinging the other way' effect.

Also, when did I suggest that the Republicans held a significant House majority in 2004? Holding even a 1-seat majority in the Senate makes your Congressional holding a 'significant majority' in my book; you're able to pass whatever you want anytime you want, especially with the way that the Republicans in Congress have fallen in line. In contrast, the Democrats hold a similarly slim majority in the House as the Republicans did last go around, but now they don't have a Senate majority. This is a much larger difference than you're letting on.

The facts -
Democrats have a slim majority in the House
No one has a Senate majority
Statistics tells us that the Democrats are likely to surrender some House AND Senate seats due to last year's winnings being so large

In 2004 the Republicans held both the House and the Senate. Where were your principles then? I'm still waiting on an answer. Everyone who voted for Bush in 2004 and is now voting for McCain in 2008 based on 'checks and balances' is a liar.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Atreus21

So stop all this self-righteous bullshit.
And leave it to those like you who thrive on it.

At least I don't deny it. I believe I'm right, and you're wrong. Liberals pretend to behave as if all viewpoints are valid, while in actuality are just as close-minded as me. It's deliberately misleading.
Good thing I'm not a Liberal.
:laugh:
I walk like a duck, quack like a duck, shit like a duck, hang out with ducks, but I'm a beautiful swan dammit! :roll:

What an ass. You post a :laugh: and some crap and another emoticon and you think your absurd remarks can wipe out years of history with Red Dawn's posts that clearly and without a single shred of doubt are the work of no liberal. Your sad and sickening attempt to insult is really shameful. You are an idiot and you demonstrate it clearly.
Red Dawn wisely knows he is a simpleton. You on the other hand...well I think I'll quote myself:
"You're just another partisan hack, the only difference is your motivation. "

 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Topic: New Messages After the last eight years, what could possibly posses you to vote Republican?

Answer: Because GWB doesnt reflect the ideals of the GOP.

Another reason the brain dead will be voting 90% McBush. The Republican mindset is a cornucopia of imbecilic rationalizations.

Hint: No elected Republican reflects the ideals of the GOP.

it's posts like this that give me doubts about voting for Obama.

Pulled right out of that cornucopia. You are full of doubts about Obama. What you can't explain in any rational language is why. You are like somebody who doesn't like gays. You don't know why but they fill you wit doubt.

There's nothing to say to your absurd comment if you can't supply some reasoning? You are a bigot.
LOL - isn't Loki gay?

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Red Dawn wisely knows he is a simpleton.
The problem is you don't realize you're one too. Let me share that wisdom you anointed me. Your lies betray your alleged sophisitication.
 
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Topic: New Messages After the last eight years, what could possibly posses you to vote Republican?

Answer: Because GWB doesnt reflect the ideals of the GOP.

Another reason the brain dead will be voting 90% McBush. The Republican mindset is a cornucopia of imbecilic rationalizations.

Hint: No elected Republican reflects the ideals of the GOP.

it's posts like this that give me doubts about voting for Obama.

???

None of the ranking Republicans have any true conservative values. They are all supporters of big government and fewer individual or state rights. Why is that so hard to understand?

Every time someone suggests that the Democrats are big spenders, I laugh. We spend but a fraction of what the Republicans spend and plan to spend. It's amazing how the followers of the Republican party can believe in one set of ideals yet vote for people who never represent these ideals in any form.

"Republicans are for lower taxes. Republicans are for you and your small business. Republicans are fiscally responsible."

This bullshit has been so deeply ingrained in the psyche of sheep they can't believe anything else even with 8 years of disaster staring them in the face.

In every thread I can count on moonie to say 3 things.

1st that if you don't vote Obama you are going against "God's" will. Obama has been chosen by "God"

2nd that if you vote Republican you are "brain-dead" or "stupid"

and 3rd that you are a "sheep" if you can't see that GWB was a Republican, so all Republicans must be the same.

Here's a question for you though. How do you know this "God" being thing wants Obama to be CIC? How do you know "God" doesn't want Ron Paul to be CIC? Moonie you really should read up on fallacies. You make quite a few of them every thread you reply in, and sometimes even more than one each reply.