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Lemon law

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Oh shit and holy damn, there is no religion as lunny as one that bases it self on Virgin Birth. Tell that shit to Murry Povich, when GOD himself gives that DNA sample.

But still at the end of the day, what fun Christian had as they argued on the trinity, of the father son and the holy Ghost, don't lose the argument or they burn you at the stake.

As for me, I always liked the Druids, at least they worshiped trees. Gotta watch out for holy Monkey's and especially chickens. Who could reverse genetically transform them selves back into T-rex. But if the T-rex's win, every Kentucky franchise in the world is toast, if the Druids win, every chain saw on earth will be outlawed.
 

dali71

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Either you accept it or refute it. Is Ganesh not an Elephant? Is a cow not revered? I dont remember the monkey god name. Is the phallus not revered as Lingam?

Right, I'm an insult to my religion by stating the facts o_O Why are you embarrassed by it? Proclaim openly that these are tenets of Hinduism.

The Kaaba in Mecca was actually created by King Vikramaditya, and the Black Stone is the Shiva Lingam. Have you made the Hajj pilgrimage, and if so, did you kiss the Shiva Lingam?
 

OCGuy

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Oh shit and holy damn, there is no religion as lunny as one that bases it self on Virgin Birth. Tell that shit to Murry Povich, when GOD himself gives that DNA sample.

But still at the end of the day, what fun Christian had as they argued on the trinity, of the father son and the holy Ghost, don't lose the argument or they burn you at the stake.

As for me, I always liked the Druids, at least they worshiped trees. Gotta watch out for holy Monkey's and especially chickens. Who could reverse genetically transform them selves back into T-rex. But if the T-rex's win, every Kentucky franchise in the world is toast, if the Druids win, every chain saw on earth will be outlawed.

Western xtians have moved on from barbaric practices, islam hasnt. Although I agree they are all based off hocus pocus BS.
 

tvarad

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Why are the mods letting this thread go off-topic?

This topic is going off it's rails because you don't want an honest debate, instead relying on innuendo, insults and ridicule to get your non-point across. Coming back to it, your military has all the resources and fire-power including nukes to not even let a mouse get across it's eastern border (never mind the fact that it regularly sends it's jihadis across it into India, has fomented violence in Punjab in the '80s etc.), but it doesn't have the resources to do the same to protect it's Western border, and again not having any qualms about sending it's favored jihadis across it to terrorize the Afghans. Obama figured this out and has been showing you guys that two can play this game. You're just being a cry-baby because Pakistan is at the receiving end for a change.
 

Baasha

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Priciples of nature? hahaha. Hindus pray to a Penis shaped God. I believe you call it Lingam. Hindu women from India go rub their clits against the "god".

Ashoka was a buddhist. So was Chandragupta Maurya.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandragupta_Maurya#Origins

Hindus have amounted to nothing at all, except being subjugated. Thats what they are good at :D

What else do Hindus pray to as God? Cows? Monkeys? Elephants? Pray to my toe nail. hahahaha.

The entire Hindu religion is nothing but mythology.

Aah.. the muslim shows his true nature again... that's what happens when you "study" at a madrassah..

your post is so obtuse that it warrants no decent reply..

btw, I can prove to you that you muslims are more idolatrous than Hindus (same goes for christians as well).

I can throw the Bhagavad Gita on the ground and step on it. Whoop de doo..

Can you do that to the quran (publicly)?

Funny abrahamic scum call Hindus "idolators". :biggrin:
 

Baasha

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The Kaaba in Mecca was actually created by King Vikramaditya, and the Black Stone is the Shiva Lingam. Have you made the Hajj pilgrimage, and if so, did you kiss the Shiva Lingam?

LOL.. great point.. Dumb camel-jockeys running around a rock in the middle of the desert throwing stones at it and call Hindus "idol worshipers".. oh the irony..
 

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Aah.. the muslim shows his true nature again... that's what happens when you "study" at a madrassah..

your post is so obtuse that it warrants no decent reply..

btw, I can prove to you that you muslims are more idolatrous than Hindus (same goes for christians as well).

I can throw the Bhagavad Gita on the ground and step on it. Whoop de doo..

Can you do that to the quran (publicly)?

Funny abrahamic scum call Hindus "idolators". :biggrin:

I do not really understand what is wrong in idol worship and contrary to common understanding, you do not need an idol to worship.

I guess article explains it clearly;

Idolatry does not find any support from Vedas. In chapter 32 of Yajurveda it has been said that God Supreme or Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ or material shape. He cannot be seen directly by anyone. His name is so great that only the Name is enough to invoke Him. He pervades all beings and all directions.

As God is formless and his name is enough, syllables comprising the words may, therefore, be taken as adequate representation. What God is like? The answer is, it is like the word ‘God’ containing the syllables G, O, D. The most striking example of this is the word ‘Om’ which means God in spiritual and material form. Thus according to the Vedas God neither has any image nor He resides in any particular idol or statue.

However we find that Hindu temples are filled with images or idols of gods and goddesses. This phenomenon can be easily understood if we try to know the necessity of assumptions. If we teach a child at nursery stage that ‘A’ stands for ‘apple’ we are making an assumption for easy learning of a letter of alphabet. While teaching geometry the teacher draws a triangle and says, “Let ABC be a triangle”. The word ‘let’ is used here because the lines forming the triangle are not really lines according to the definition of a line. A line, by definition, has length but no breadth. How to draw such a line on a blackboard? Breadth invariably accompanies length whenever one attempts to draw a line. Hence one has to use the word ‘let.’ One has to assume that what has been drawn is a line. Similarly, geometry asks us to assume a point also. A point is defined as having neither length, nor breadth nor thickness. It is without any dimension; still we try to draw it on a blackboard. What we draw is practically a circle, but it is assumed to be a point. A true triangle and a true point exist only in definitions. Yet we have to proceed on the assumption that they actually exist.

As the mind cannot concentrate itself on a formless being or spiritual form of Supreme Being one has to assume God in some visible object or image. During the Vedic period there were neither temples nor images or idols of deities. So God was invoked through the fire kindled for havan materials. The seers of Upanishads discarded the practice of havans and concentrated on Imperishable ‘Om’. When the Buddhism and Jainism flourished in India the idols or statues of Gautam Buddha and Vardhaman Mahavir got much popularity. To rejuvenate Hinduism different images of God varied in shape according to different names of God came into existence. One may say that it resulted in spread of superstition in Hinduism. Yet it is a fact that all temples, mosques, churches and other religious buildings are also idols and images where God does not come to reside. It is weakness of the man that he likes human shape. So majars (graves) of Sufi saints among Muslims and crucified figure of Jesus Christ in the churches command much reverence. In the same way personification of different names of God and giving different forms to them have helped sculptors to make statues or idols that may find place in temples to be adored by devotees
Routan, if you want to bash a religion do it based on through understanding of said religion.. not just by blindly stereotyping it.
 

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Aah.. the muslim shows his true nature again... that's what happens when you "study" at a madrassah..

your post is so obtuse that it warrants no decent reply..

btw, I can prove to you that you muslims are more idolatrous than Hindus (same goes for christians as well).

I can throw the Bhagavad Gita on the ground and step on it. Whoop de doo..

Can you do that to the quran (publicly)?

Funny abrahamic scum call Hindus "idolators". :biggrin:

Dude you are the kind of guy who gives Hindus a bad name. Hinduism is polytheistic and teaches us that there are many paths to God so don't belittle other religions. What's the difference between us and islamic fundies if we stoop to their level? So please stop with this racist nonsense.
 

Baasha

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I do not really understand what is wrong in idol worship and contrary to common understanding, you do not need an idol to worship.

I think you're extrapolating my statements. I wanted to show these abrahamics that they are really the ones who are idolatrous as they keep trying to disparage Hindus as being such.

Of course worshiping idols is not a "bad" thing. I'm not part of Arya Samaj LOL.

mUrtI pUjA is very important and I understand that.
 

Baasha

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Dude you are the kind of guy who gives Hindus a bad name. Hinduism is polytheistic and teaches us that there are many paths to God so don't belittle other religions. What's the difference between us and islamic fundies if we stoop to their level? So please stop with this racist nonsense.

Well shit..how do you propose we counter these vermin who keep belittling India and Hinduism? Ignore them indefinitely? Or stick our heads in the sand?

India cannot afford to end up like Tibet.

I agree there are much better ways to counter anti-Hindus/anti-Indians but on this forum, how do you suggest it is done? I'm open to suggestions.
 

crisscross

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Well shit..how do you propose we counter these vermin who keep belittling India and Hinduism? Ignore them indefinitely? Or stick our heads in the sand?

India cannot afford to end up like Tibet.

I agree there are much better ways to counter anti-Hindus/anti-Indians but on this forum, how do you suggest it is done? I'm open to suggestions.

You cant convince guys like Routan or TGB if they are not convinced after seeing the crap that goes on in Pakistan what can what you or I say or do that can do otherwise.

What we do need to recognize is that we need to present the facts for the benefit of Americans Britishers and others about Pakistan's duplicity and how India and Hindus are different. The west has historically clubbed India and Pakistan together and this a wonderful opportunity to show how we are different.

Ask yourself this.. As representatives of Hinduism is the image you want to present?
 

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Well shit..how do you propose we counter these vermin who keep belittling India and Hinduism? Ignore them indefinitely? Or stick our heads in the sand?

Certainly not the way you are speaking. Your inane drivel does not add anything to this discussion. You think you will get your point across by calling other people untouchables.. there are many ways to make people understand.. and yours is not one of them.

I really don't see a difference between you and routan.. you both are on the extreme sides of the same stick.

You wanted suggestions right.. first of all STOP referring to everyone, who does not agree with your POV as untouchables.. because they are not. If you really feel others who are not Hindus as untouchables.. then I am sorry to say.. you are one too.. cos there is no way one can be a Brahmin on foreign soil.

India is not almighty.. you have to accept the fact that this is Internet, people are racist and xenophobic motherfuckers.. and that includes me. You are a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. People think India is backward due to casteism.. and I agree with them partly.. I am not sure how one can deny that.

You have not lived in India.. and you think the shell you live in as representation of the whole world.. just like a frog who thinks a small well is the whole wide world.
 

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http://tribune.com.pk/story/180613/upper-dir-militants-attack-border-check-post-killing-seven/

This is unacceptable! While the USA cries about our border regions being restive it is the Afghan side, controlled by the Americans that has caused one of the last single largest skirmish for years. Shouldn't the Americans have cleared Afghanistan of these terrorists in their almost 10 year old war? Does this give us the right to carry out operations inside Afghanistan as we please? How could the CIA not detect such a large movement of militants under their nose? complicity or incompetence?

The Russians couldn't even do that, and they pretty much flew around and indiscriminately killed for years. What makes you think America will do any better? They want us gone and any negotiations we make will cease to matter once we leave. Afghanistan has been fighting like this since Alexander the Great. They get conquered, and make occupation hell on earth for the conquerors until they leave.

America will not fight a real war until the mainland is actually threatened, which probably won't happen for another century at least.
 

Lemon law

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Tvarad claims the Pakistani army has the resources to make sure not even a mouse goes over the Afghan Pakistani border un noticed, but fails to even explain three things.

1. If the Pakistani army can do it so can the Nato army. But no, Nato claims they can't do the job? But suddenly the Pakistani army is supposed to do something Nato finds impossible to do.

2. All Pakistan is doing is leasing to Nato a land based supply line in. How does it morph up to be a Pakistani responsibility, when GWB promised he would clean up the Taliban in jig time. And 10 years later, Nato is no closer than when they started.

3. Pakistan loses lives and equipment every time they go after the Taliban, and worse yet it anger all the local residents of the loosely controlled Tribal areas. And as soon as
the Pakistani army presses the Taliban too hard, the Taliban goes up and stirs up trouble in India. And then the Pakistani army has to with draw to shore up the Indian border.

One day Nato will go home, mission unaccomplished, and then Pakistan will probably have to broker some compromise. Much Much later modern civilization will come to Afghanistan and the Tribal areas of Pakistan, and then and only then will the Taliban be toast.
 

Baasha

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The west has historically clubbed India and Pakistan together and this a wonderful opportunity to show how we are different.

It is not my job, nor any Hindus' job, to educate these illiterate vermin about the differences between the semitic cults and Hinduism. If these idiots are too dumb to differentiate between the two, it is not our loss; it is theirs. Their barbaric practices/lifestyle as well as their bloody history is ample proof that it is they who need to do the explaining, not us.

When their ancestors came to this continent, they murdered, raped, and stole everything from the natives. When we Hindus came here, we rose to the top on our own merits without causing any discord. And you're talking as if we need to "explain ourselves" to these shit-for-brains? LOL.. The fact that we have, as a community, not caused any harm and in fact greatly benefited this society for the past several decades should be an accolade in and of itself for the Indian diaspora.

Ask yourself this.. As representatives of Hinduism is the image you want to present?

I am not a representative of Hinduism when admonishing douchebags like john of SHITfield and SHITfohawk et al.
 

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middle easterners murdering each other again

nothing to see here, business as usual
 

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It is not my job, nor any Hindus' job, to educate these illiterate vermin about the differences between the semitic cults and Hinduism. If these idiots are too dumb to differentiate between the two, it is not our loss; it is theirs. Their barbaric practices/lifestyle as well as their bloody history is ample proof that it is they who need to do the explaining, not us.

When their ancestors came to this continent, they murdered, raped, and stole everything from the natives. When we Hindus came here, we rose to the top on our own merits without causing any discord. And you're talking as if we need to "explain ourselves" to these shit-for-brains? LOL.. The fact that we have, as a community, not caused any harm and in fact greatly benefited this society for the past several decades should be an accolade in and of itself for the Indian diaspora.



I am not a representative of Hinduism when admonishing douchebags like john of SHITfield and SHITfohawk et al.

if you hindus are so great, how come your country (india) suck so much?
 

Baasha

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Certainly not the way you are speaking. Your inane drivel does not add anything to this discussion. You think you will get your point across by calling other people untouchables.. there are many ways to make people understand.. and yours is not one of them.

Instead of merely lambasting me, suggest some alternatives then. You are far too eager to point the finger when you don't have the solutions yourself.

I really don't see a difference between you and routan.. you both are on the extreme sides of the same stick.

Your inability to see the difference of position is not my problem.

If you really feel others who are not Hindus as untouchables.. then I am sorry to say.. you are one too.. cos there is no way one can be a Brahmin on foreign soil.

LOL.. go to any of the priests at one of the 1600 Hindu temples in the US and tell them that. See what they say. :rolleyes:

Perhaps I'm not as orthodox as some in India, but my lifestyle most certainly is indicative of my dedication to Dharma than many idiots in India itself who merely ape the west without seeing the beauty of the Hindu culture.

India is not almighty.. you have to accept the fact that this is Internet, people are racist and xenophobic motherfuckers.. and that includes me. You are a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. People think India is backward due to casteism.. and I agree with them partly.. I am not sure how one can deny that.

When did I deny casteism is not a problem? I have always said casteism is bad but caste is not. Don't put words into my mouth dude. And, Indian (Hindu) culture is infinitely superior to that of these flesh-eating untouchables. Do you doubt that?

To blame all of India's ills on casteism is dense. There is without a semblance of a doubt the barbaric invasions of Muslims and Christians have caused severe damage to the Hindu ethos. The degradation of Dharma, whether the cause of casteism or not, is mainly due to the invasions by the barbarians. Casteism has merely added to it.

You have not lived in India.. and you think the shell you live in as representation of the whole world.. just like a frog who thinks a small well is the whole wide world.

I like how you just presume to know so much about me. Where did I say my life is a representation of the 'whole world'? You are extrapolating my statements so much that the original intent is completely lost. And, I like the reference to the 'frog in the well'! ;) Reference to Mandukya Karika perhaps?
 
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Baasha

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if you hindus are so great, how come your country (india) suck so much?

First, India doesn't suck. It is recovering from repeated invasions by barbarians (Muslims and Christians) and so it is only starting to regain its rightful position on the world stage.
 

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First, India doesn't suck. It is recovering from repeated invasions by barbarians (Muslims and Christians) and so it is only starting to regain its rightful position on the world stage.

LOL

The world might be better off when India and Pakistan are fields of glass. There is no possible way they wont eventually go to war.
 
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