Originally posted by: Queasy
<DEEP BREATH>
BWAHAHAHAH...
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
This is great, star power might actually fuel this thing and get it in the papers and magazines more often. Public pressure might even help our chances for an independant study. I'm amazed so many intelligent people on here arn't onboard with this simply because it's an unamerican 'conspiracy theory'. And say what you want about them, but Sheen's arn't a bunch of Bush haters, they are intelligent people who are more successful at life than you or me. I'm proud an acter like Charlie Sheen had the balls to do this while he still has a career to think about. I have even more admiration for him now, he makes me laugh in almost every movie he's in. I just hope these threads are in archives or something when we know the truth.
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
This is great, star power might actually fuel this thing and get it in the papers and magazines more often. Public pressure might even help our chances for an independant study. I'm amazed so many intelligent people on here arn't onboard with this simply because it's an unamerican 'conspiracy theory'. And say what you want about them, but Sheen's arn't a bunch of Bush haters, they are intelligent people who are more successful at life than you or me. I'm proud an acter like Charlie Sheen had the balls to do this while he still has a career to think about. I have even more admiration for him now, he makes me laugh in almost every movie he's in. I just hope these threads are in archives or something when we know the truth.
People aren't on board with this conspiracy theory because it's idiotic.
1) Contract a demo team to bring down the WTC bldgs
2) Keep that team and all the workers quiet
3) Install cutting demo explosives in the WTC bldgs
4) Keep people from noticing workers placing demo charges
5) Conceal all the det cord from workers and janitorial staff
6) Keep someone on site to activate the explosives in order (just ignore the guy with all the wires running to him)
etc...
Do you understand why people think you're completely off your rocker when claiming you believe the US govt brought the WTC bldgs down?
No, the Sheens aren't just Bush-haters...they're complete loons. Martin is batsh!t crazy and Charlie is a coked up has-been. I commend their ability to profit from their marketable skill (acting), but that doesn't change the fact they're completle nutjobs.
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
This is great, star power might actually fuel this thing and get it in the papers and magazines more often. Public pressure might even help our chances for an independant study. I'm amazed so many intelligent people on here arn't onboard with this simply because it's an unamerican 'conspiracy theory'. And say what you want about them, but Sheen's arn't a bunch of Bush haters, they are intelligent people who are more successful at life than you or me. I'm proud an acter like Charlie Sheen had the balls to do this while he still has a career to think about. I have even more admiration for him now, he makes me laugh in almost every movie he's in. I just hope these threads are in archives or something when we know the truth.
People aren't on board with this conspiracy theory because it's idiotic.
1) Contract a demo team to bring down the WTC bldgs
2) Keep that team and all the workers quiet
3) Install cutting demo explosives in the WTC bldgs
4) Keep people from noticing workers placing demo charges
5) Conceal all the det cord from workers and janitorial staff
6) Keep someone on site to activate the explosives in order (just ignore the guy with all the wires running to him)
etc...
Do you understand why people think you're completely off your rocker when claiming you believe the US govt brought the WTC bldgs down?
No, the Sheens aren't just Bush-haters...they're complete loons. Martin is batsh!t crazy and Charlie is a coked up has-been. I commend their ability to profit from their marketable skill (acting), but that doesn't change the fact they're completle nutjobs.
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
This is great, star power might actually fuel this thing and get it in the papers and magazines more often. Public pressure might even help our chances for an independant study. I'm amazed so many intelligent people on here arn't onboard with this simply because it's an unamerican 'conspiracy theory'. And say what you want about them, but Sheen's arn't a bunch of Bush haters, they are intelligent people who are more successful at life than you or me. I'm proud an acter like Charlie Sheen had the balls to do this while he still has a career to think about. I have even more admiration for him now, he makes me laugh in almost every movie he's in. I just hope these threads are in archives or something when we know the truth.
People aren't on board with this conspiracy theory because it's idiotic.
1) Contract a demo team to bring down the WTC bldgs
2) Keep that team and all the workers quiet
3) Install cutting demo explosives in the WTC bldgs
4) Keep people from noticing workers placing demo charges
5) Conceal all the det cord from workers and janitorial staff
6) Keep someone on site to activate the explosives in order (just ignore the guy with all the wires running to him)
etc...
Do you understand why people think you're completely off your rocker when claiming you believe the US govt brought the WTC bldgs down?
No, the Sheens aren't just Bush-haters...they're complete loons. Martin is batsh!t crazy and Charlie is a coked up has-been. I commend their ability to profit from their marketable skill (acting), but that doesn't change the fact they're completle nutjobs.
Your queries are all answered in Loose Change 2nd Edition. There were random times in the weeks before 9/11 where 'certain floors' of the WTC buildings were evacuated. Oficials were in and out of there all the time according to witnesses who worked in those sections. The thing that hit the Pentagon hit it in the ONLY secton made to withstand the impact, which was added fairly recent to 9/11 I believe. And who really knows what happened with that 4th plane?![]()
Oh, and what was your honest opinion of Charlie Sheen before you heard this?
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
This just in, Actor Charlie Sheen is talking out of his ass, needs more hookers and blow.
W00t Post 8088!
Originally posted by: Squisher
I haven't changed my sig in ages, this thread forced me.
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
But thermite does![]()
Holy Christ, you really are a bafoon. I'm done with this thread.
It goes to show how ignorant you are on the subject...do the research, many people already have. FEMA and NIST have been unable to explain the molten steel found at ground zero. It's a critical point.
Originally posted by: Squisher
It was the men in the black suits!
Don't people even think before they engage their mouth?
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: noto12ious
I always laugh at how quickly people automatically shoot down 911 truth seekers. It just shows their ignorance on the subject matter.
What, are JFK's murder?
JFK? A lot similarities between exist between the Warren Commission and the 911 Commission.
One of many examples: 911 Commission intentionally omitting Norman Mineta's damning testimony
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: noto12ious
But thermite does![]()
Holy Christ, you really are a bafoon. I'm done with this thread.
It goes to show how ignorant you are on the subject...do the research, many people already have. FEMA and NIST have been unable to explain the molten steel found at ground zero. It's a critical point.
Originally posted by: morkinva
Wow imagine the stones on this guy. So much to lose, but he speaks out against the official story. Wild thing, you're my effin hero.
No mainstream media coverage of this, mind you. Only a link on drudge for a few hours, and that's all. If he had condemned the Bush administration for it's Iraq escapades, he would have made the news bigtime. Yet something major like this goes unreported. So typical.
edit>> Sheen on Showbiz Tonight CNN 7/11 eastern
Actor Charlie Sheen Questions Official 9/11 Story
Calls for truly independent investigation, joins growing ranks of prominent credible whistleblowers
Alex Jones & Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | March 20 2006
Actor Charlie Sheen has joined a growing army of other highly credible public figures in questioning the official story of 9/11 and calling for a new independent investigation of the attack and the circumstances surrounding it.
Over the past two years, scores of highly regarded individuals have gone public to express their serious doubts about 9/11. These include former presidential advisor and CIA analyst Ray McGovern, the father of Reaganomics and former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury Paul Craig Roberts, BYU physics Professor Steven Jones, former German defense minister Andreas von Buelow, former MI5 officer David Shayler, former Blair cabinet member Michael Meacher, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds and many more.
Speaking to The Alex Jones Show on the GCN Radio Network, the star of current hit comedy show Two and a Half Men and dozens of movies including Platoon and Young Guns, Sheen elaborated on why he had problems believing the government's version of events.
Sheen agreed that the biggest conspiracy theory was put out by the government itself and prefaced his argument by quoting Theodore Roosevelt in stating, "That we are to stand by the President right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
"We're not the conspiracy theorists on this particular issue," said Sheen.
"It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75% of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions."
Sheen described the climate of acceptance for serious discussion about 9/11 as being far more fertile than it was a couple of years ago.
"It feels like from the people I talk to in and around my circles, it seems like the worm is turning."
Suspicious collapse of buildings
Sheen described his immediate skepticism regarding the official reason for the collapse of the twin towers and building 7 on the day of 9/11.
"I was up early and we were gonna do a pre-shoot on Spin City, the show I used to do, I was watching the news and the north tower was burning. I saw the south tower hit live, that famous wide shot where it disappears behind the building and then we see the tremendous fireball."
"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"
Sheen said that most people's gut instinct, that the buildings had been deliberately imploded, was washed away by the incessant flood of the official version of events from day one.
Sheen questioned the plausibility of a fireballs traveling 1100 feet down an elevator shaft and causing damage to the lobbies of the towers as seen in video footage, especially when contrasted with eyewitness accounts of bombs and explosions in the basement levels of the buildings.
Regarding building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, Sheen highlighted the use of the term "pull," a demolition industry term for pulling the outer walls of the building towards the center in an implosion, as was used by Larry Silverstein in a September 2002 PBS documentary when he said that the decision to "pull" building 7 was made before its collapse. This technique ensures the building collapses in its own footprint and can clearly be seen during the collapse of building 7 with the classic 'crimp' being visible.
The highly suspicious collapse of building 7 and the twin towers has previously been put under the spotlight by physics Professor Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories, the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the World Trade Center towers.
"The term 'pull' is as common to the demolition world as 'action and 'cut' are to the movie world," said Sheen.
Sheen referenced firefighters in the buildings who were eyewitnesses to demolition style implosions and bombs.
"This is not you or I watching the videos and speculating on what we saw, these are gentlemen inside the buildings at the very point of collapse."
"If there's a problem with building 7 then there's a problem with the whole thing," said Sheen.
Bush's behavior on 9/11
Sheen then questioned President Bush's actions on 9/11 and his location at the Booker Elementary School in Florida. Once Andy Card had whispered to Bush that America was under attack why didn't the secret service immediately whisk Bush away to a secret location?
By remaining at a location where it was publicly known the President would be before 9/11, he was not only putting his own life in danger, but the lives of hundreds of schoolchildren. That is unless the government knew for sure what the targets were beforehand and that President Bush wasn't one of them.
"It seems to me that upon the revelation of that news that the secret service would grab the President as if he was on fire and remove him from that room," said Sheen.
The question of how Bush saw the first plane hit the north tower, when no live footage of that incident was carried, an assertion that Bush repeated twice, was also put under the spotlight.
"I guess one of the perks of being President is that you get access to TV channels that don't exist in the known universe," said Sheen.
"It might lead you to believe that he'd seen similar images in some type of rehearsal as it were, I don't know."
The Pentagon incident
Sheen outlined his disbelief that the official story of what happened at the Pentagon matched the physical evidence.
"Show us this incredible maneuvering, just show it to us. Just show us how this particular plane pulled off these maneuvers. 270 degree turn at 500 miles and hour descending 7,000 feet in two and a half minutes, skimming across treetops the last 500 meters."
We have not been able to confirm that a large commercial airliner hit the Pentagon because the government has seized and refused to release any footage that would show the impact.
"I understand in the interest of national security that maybe not release the Pentagon cameras but what about the Sheraton, what about the gas station, what about the Department of Transportation freeway cam? What about all these shots that had this thing perfectly documented? Instead they put out five frames that they claim not to have authorized, it's really suspicious," said Sheen.
Sheen also questioned how the plane basically disappeared into the Pentagon with next to no wreckage and no indication of what happened to the wing sections.
Concerning how the Bush administration had finalized Afghanistan war plans two days before 9/11 with the massing of 44,000 US troops and 18,000 British troops in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, and in addition the call for "some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor," as outlined in the PNAC documents, Sheen stated, "you don't really put those strategies together overnight do you for a major invasion? Those are really well calculated and really well planned."
"Coincidence? We think not," said Sheen and he called the PNAC quotes "emblematic of the arrogance of this administration."
A real investigation
Sheen joined others in calling for a revised and truly independent investigation of 9/11.
Sheen said that "September 11 wasn't the Zapruder film, it was the Zapruder film festival," and that the inquiry had to be, "headed, if this is possible, by some neutral investigative committee. What if we used retired political foreign nationals? What if we used experts that don't have any ties whatsoever to this administration?"
"It is up to us to reveal the truth. It is up to us because we owe it to the families, we owe it to the victims. We owe it to everybody's life who was drastically altered, horrifically that day and forever. We owe it to them to uncover what happened."
Charlie Sheen joins the rest of his great family and notably his father Martin Sheen, who has lambasted for opposing the Iraq war before it had begun yet has now been proven right in triplicate, in using his prominent public platform to stand for truth and justice and we applaud and salute his brave efforts, remembering Mark Twain's quote.
"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
Originally posted by: morkinva
Haha I thought it was funny also when they called him 'credible'. Heidy Fleiss would be proud.
But the fact remains that what he's saying is BIG. He's not just raggin on Iraq policy, he's saying some serious sh!t. And he's a big star. Why is there no mass media coverage of this?
the interview
edit>> could've sworn I posted this in the correct forum, my bad.
Originally posted by: hemiram
Originally posted by: morkinva
Haha I thought it was funny also when they called him 'credible'. Heidy Fleiss would be proud.
But the fact remains that what he's saying is BIG. He's not just raggin on Iraq policy, he's saying some serious sh!t. And he's a big star. Why is there no mass media coverage of this?
the interview
edit>> could've sworn I posted this in the correct forum, my bad.
There's no mass media coverage of it because it's KOOKERY! Thousands and thousands of real experts, all over the world have no problems with the "official" version of what happened, and people who believe in the "demolition" nonsense have to drag out a few fringe people who see things that arent there, have theories that make no sense, like thermite, or who think that steel is magic and can't fail, even after a jetliner slams into the building at 500+ MPH and sets off a huge fire.
The videos show nothing, ZERO that indicates any of the buildings were imploded. NOTHING. A whole lot of people saw the plane slam into the pentagon.
It's like a religion with some of you people! No matter how kooky it is, you will dance around and try to make it fit your wished for scenario. Some of the kookpages are hilarious though, I have to admit.
Originally posted by: OdiN
I'm not going to read all that.
I really don't care what any celebrity thinks, politically or otherwise.
I love images.google.comOriginally posted by: her209
Ginger Lynn :thumbsdown:Originally posted by: Crazyfool
More like a prominent credible coke blower known for dating Ginger Lynn, a different kind of "whistleblower". :laugh:
Gina Lynn :thumbsup:
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: hemiram
Originally posted by: morkinva
Haha I thought it was funny also when they called him 'credible'. Heidy Fleiss would be proud.
But the fact remains that what he's saying is BIG. He's not just raggin on Iraq policy, he's saying some serious sh!t. And he's a big star. Why is there no mass media coverage of this?
the interview
edit>> could've sworn I posted this in the correct forum, my bad.
There's no mass media coverage of it because it's KOOKERY! Thousands and thousands of real experts, all over the world have no problems with the "official" version of what happened, and people who believe in the "demolition" nonsense have to drag out a few fringe people who see things that arent there, have theories that make no sense, like thermite, or who think that steel is magic and can't fail, even after a jetliner slams into the building at 500+ MPH and sets off a huge fire.
The videos show nothing, ZERO that indicates any of the buildings were imploded. NOTHING. A whole lot of people saw the plane slam into the pentagon.
It's like a religion with some of you people! No matter how kooky it is, you will dance around and try to make it fit your wished for scenario. Some of the kookpages are hilarious though, I have to admit.
I guess you're either ignorant, or blind:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtcshake.mpg
(12 seconds before WTC1 collapse, the tripod shakes, debris falls off the right side of the building)
It corroborates with this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=eyewitness
(Time frame 52:50 - 55:10 , 3 explosions can be heard roughly 12 seconds before WTC1 collapse + smoke rising from the streets)
Also footage from Loose Change 2nd Edition (time frame 51:30 - 53:40)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848
CNN coverage: http://www.stoplying.ca/media/showbiz1.wmv
MIT engineer: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248
FEMA and NIST have been unable to offer a plausible explanation for WTC7's collapse. WTC7 was intentionally omitted from the 911 Commission Report:
http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/video%20archive/wtc-7_collapse.mpa
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: hemiram
Originally posted by: morkinva
Haha I thought it was funny also when they called him 'credible'. Heidy Fleiss would be proud.
But the fact remains that what he's saying is BIG. He's not just raggin on Iraq policy, he's saying some serious sh!t. And he's a big star. Why is there no mass media coverage of this?
the interview
edit>> could've sworn I posted this in the correct forum, my bad.
There's no mass media coverage of it because it's KOOKERY! Thousands and thousands of real experts, all over the world have no problems with the "official" version of what happened, and people who believe in the "demolition" nonsense have to drag out a few fringe people who see things that arent there, have theories that make no sense, like thermite, or who think that steel is magic and can't fail, even after a jetliner slams into the building at 500+ MPH and sets off a huge fire.
The videos show nothing, ZERO that indicates any of the buildings were imploded. NOTHING. A whole lot of people saw the plane slam into the pentagon.
It's like a religion with some of you people! No matter how kooky it is, you will dance around and try to make it fit your wished for scenario. Some of the kookpages are hilarious though, I have to admit.
I guess you're either ignorant, or blind:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtcshake.mpg
(12 seconds before WTC1 collapse, the tripod shakes, debris falls off the right side of the building)
It corroborates with this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=eyewitness
(Time frame 52:50 - 55:10 , 3 explosions can be heard roughly 12 seconds before WTC1 collapse + smoke rising from the streets)
Also footage from Loose Change 2nd Edition (time frame 51:30 - 53:40)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848
CNN coverage: http://www.stoplying.ca/media/showbiz1.wmv
MIT engineer: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248
FEMA and NIST have been unable to offer a plausible explanation for WTC7's collapse. WTC7 was intentionally omitted from the 911 Commission Report:
http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/video%20archive/wtc-7_collapse.mpa
What do you think it would sound like when the inside of the building fails? one of the floor colliding with one of the other floors might sound like a BOOM or EXPLOSION.
You have issues.
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: hemiram
Originally posted by: morkinva
Haha I thought it was funny also when they called him 'credible'. Heidy Fleiss would be proud.
But the fact remains that what he's saying is BIG. He's not just raggin on Iraq policy, he's saying some serious sh!t. And he's a big star. Why is there no mass media coverage of this?
the interview
edit>> could've sworn I posted this in the correct forum, my bad.
There's no mass media coverage of it because it's KOOKERY! Thousands and thousands of real experts, all over the world have no problems with the "official" version of what happened, and people who believe in the "demolition" nonsense have to drag out a few fringe people who see things that arent there, have theories that make no sense, like thermite, or who think that steel is magic and can't fail, even after a jetliner slams into the building at 500+ MPH and sets off a huge fire.
The videos show nothing, ZERO that indicates any of the buildings were imploded. NOTHING. A whole lot of people saw the plane slam into the pentagon.
It's like a religion with some of you people! No matter how kooky it is, you will dance around and try to make it fit your wished for scenario. Some of the kookpages are hilarious though, I have to admit.
I guess you're either ignorant, or blind:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtcshake.mpg
(12 seconds before WTC1 collapse, the tripod shakes, debris falls off the right side of the building)
It corroborates with this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=eyewitness
(Time frame 52:50 - 55:10 , 3 explosions can be heard roughly 12 seconds before WTC1 collapse + smoke rising from the streets)
Also footage from Loose Change 2nd Edition (time frame 51:30 - 53:40)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848
CNN coverage: http://www.stoplying.ca/media/showbiz1.wmv
MIT engineer: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248
FEMA and NIST have been unable to offer a plausible explanation for WTC7's collapse. WTC7 was intentionally omitted from the 911 Commission Report:
http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/video%20archive/wtc-7_collapse.mpa
What do you think it would sound like when the inside of the building fails? one of the floor colliding with one of the other floors might sound like a BOOM or EXPLOSION.
You have issues.
Yeah, that confirms it. You really are blind.... or just in denialMany explosions occurred BEFORE the towers started collapsing. You should really watch the videos above...here are a few more:
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV
http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vide......igh_quality.wmv
