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FatJackSprat

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All politics aside: These dirtbags were taped offering their assitance to people they believed were engaged in child slavery and child prostitution - assitance that they believed would allow people to continue forcing innocent children into these repulsive circumstances.

Our concern as a society should be squashing every person and organization that is even remotely associated with the exploitation of our children, without ANY reservation.

To see this funnelled into the 'my team is better than your team' discussion really REALLY bothers me.

These people so easily accepted the descriptions of child exploitation, it is very difficult to believe that it could be the first time they heard those types of discussions. Think about how different your reaction would be if someone told you they were planning to use underage girls for prositutes.

A repeated pattern is on tape at multiple, separate locations. There's obviously a problem that goes beyond issues of "Democrat vs. Republican".
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: spidey07

I'm confused. What other diversion do you offer? Are they racist, are the video's "doctored", or will you continue to copy and paste what you are spoonfed?

Apparently, checking to see if the person was actually murdered is now a 'diversion'.

You are so not getting it. But please keep up the diversion. So you think this ACORN employee was just "playing along"?

Keep attacking the facts though.

 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: spidey07

I'm confused. What other diversion do you offer? Are they racist, are the video's "doctored", or will you continue to copy and paste what you are spoonfed?

Apparently, checking to see if the person was actually murdered is now a 'diversion'.

Don't you get the impression that Kaelke is a true BS artist when you watch the video? She is full of herself and ingratiating in her attempt to connect through some common criminality.

Still, even if it is eventually confirmed that she is a liar and a braggart and is laughed out of town, the advice offered by everyone in San Bernardino is of the same cloth as that offered by all of the ACORN staff in all of the other cities - let us help you succeed in your criminal and repugnant enterprise and, by the way, please pay us some dues and join us at ACORN as we are just like you, you child abusing whore mongers. :lips: :lips: :lips:

Nice bunch of people to associate yourself with, Phokiss.
 

Tequila

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Originally posted by: FatJackSprat
To see this funnelled into the 'my team is better than your team' discussion really REALLY bothers me.

Agreed. There are very few people on this board that can actually think independently of their political association. We replaced all the right-wing nuts of the Bush era with left-wing nuts that are just as rabid, vile and lack any objective thinking.
 

CitizenKain

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: spidey07

I'm confused. What other diversion do you offer? Are they racist, are the video's "doctored", or will you continue to copy and paste what you are spoonfed?

Apparently, checking to see if the person was actually murdered is now a 'diversion'.

You are so not getting it. But please keep up the diversion. So you think this ACORN employee was just "playing along"?

Keep attacking the facts though.

Only people dumb enough to fall for are Republicans. Two obviously fake people walk in and ask for something stupid, and because someone goes along with the joke you instantly think the whole organization is like that.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Only people dumb enough to fall for are Republicans. Two obviously fake people walk in and ask for something stupid, and because someone goes along with the joke you instantly think the whole organization is like that.

LOL!

So answer an easy question - were all the acron employees at 5 separate cities all just "playing along"? Is that the defense/apology?
 

GoPackGo

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So come these people didn't call the police? Thats right you Left-Wing Apologists know NO bounds.
 

CitizenKain

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
So come these people didn't call the police? Thats right you Left-Wing Apologists know NO bounds.

What? Learn to write in english.


Originally posted by: spidey07
LOL!

So answer an easy question - were all the acron employees at 5 separate cities all just "playing along"? Is that the defense/apology?

They were at this location.
 

PJABBER

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The latest two videos are from beautiful San Diego, California. :sun:

Our intrepid couple meet with ACORN staffer Juan Carlos that represents himself as a Mexican lawyer that advises on immigration issues.

He is happy to make some references and arrangements with smugglers for the shipment of twelve 13 to 15 year old girls over the border at Tijuana. He will make sure that the US District Attorney is taken care of...

As he says, "You can trust the Mexicans!"

With 70 miles of stunning beaches and picture-perfect weather all year round, having fun during the summer in San Diego doesn?t require a lot of money. The city combines old-fashioned Mexican charm with a modern edge. In a city where the sun is always shining, it?s the perfect place to get away for a bit of relaxation or stimulation. If you?re looking for trendy boutique hotels, an exploding culinary scene, or visiting the local ACORN to get your underage prostitutes smuggled across the Mexican border, you?re in the right place.

ACORN Agrees To Help Smuggle Twelve 13 to 15 Year Old Child Prostitutes Into US
 

PJABBER

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And just so you don't get the impression that the House Democrats are not hard at work with their censuring of Joe Wilson and all, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-California) is clueless about the ACORN events that are happening all around her -

Pelosi: I'm clueless about ACORN cash cut-off

Pelosi: I'm clueless about cash cut-off

By GEOFF EARLE and DAPHNE RETTER, New York Post Correspondents

September 17, 2009

WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless about an amendment to prohibit government funds for embattled ACORN, although it overwhelmingly passed the Senate Monday and the White House is calling for the group to be held accountable.

"I don't even know what they passed," Pelosi told The Post yesterday. "What did they do? They defunded it?"

The amendment to suspend housing grants was a stunning blow to the community-activist group -- and came as some Democrats and the White House have been backing away from the group.

The vote was preceded by the release of videos by conservative activists posing as a pimp and prostitute soliciting -- and receiving -- tips from ACORN employees about how to shield income, avoid taxes and set up a brothel.

The issue now goes to a House-Senate conference committee for a spending bill. Its fate is up to Democratic leaders, particularly Pelosi, since the House passed no such provision.

Some fellow lawmakers were surprised that Pelosi wasn't following the issue.

"I think that she's not focused on the issue of corruption," said Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), who has been hammering ACORN.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
So how come these people didn't call the police? That's right, you Left-Wing Apologists know NO bounds.

What? Learn to write in english.


Originally posted by: spidey07
LOL!

So answer an easy question - were all the acron employees at 5 separate cities all just "playing along"? Is that the defense/apology?

They were at this location.

fixed...now answer Troll
 
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Originally posted by: PJABBER
And just so you don't get the impression that the House Democrats are not hard at work with their censuring of Joe Wilson and all, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-California) is clueless about the ACORN events that are happening all around her -

Pelosi: I'm clueless about ACORN cash cut-off

Pelosi: I'm clueless about cash cut-off

By GEOFF EARLE and DAPHNE RETTER, New York Post Correspondents

September 17, 2009

WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless about an amendment to prohibit government funds for embattled ACORN, although it overwhelmingly passed the Senate Monday and the White House is calling for the group to be held accountable.

"I don't even know what they passed," Pelosi told The Post yesterday. "What did they do? They defunded it?"

The amendment to suspend housing grants was a stunning blow to the community-activist group -- and came as some Democrats and the White House have been backing away from the group.

The vote was preceded by the release of videos by conservative activists posing as a pimp and prostitute soliciting -- and receiving -- tips from ACORN employees about how to shield income, avoid taxes and set up a brothel.

The issue now goes to a House-Senate conference committee for a spending bill. Its fate is up to Democratic leaders, particularly Pelosi, since the House passed no such provision.

Some fellow lawmakers were surprised that Pelosi wasn't following the issue.

"I think that she's not focused on the issue of corruption," said Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), who has been hammering ACORN.
Ah come on....Pelosi is obviously just playing along. :D
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: PJABBER
And just so you don't get the impression that the House Democrats are not hard at work with their censuring of Joe Wilson and all, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-California) is clueless about the ACORN events that are happening all around her -

Pelosi: I'm clueless about ACORN cash cut-off

Pelosi: I'm clueless about cash cut-off

By GEOFF EARLE and DAPHNE RETTER, New York Post Correspondents

September 17, 2009

WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless about an amendment to prohibit government funds for embattled ACORN, although it overwhelmingly passed the Senate Monday and the White House is calling for the group to be held accountable.

"I don't even know what they passed," Pelosi told The Post yesterday. "What did they do? They defunded it?"

The amendment to suspend housing grants was a stunning blow to the community-activist group -- and came as some Democrats and the White House have been backing away from the group.

The vote was preceded by the release of videos by conservative activists posing as a pimp and prostitute soliciting -- and receiving -- tips from ACORN employees about how to shield income, avoid taxes and set up a brothel.

The issue now goes to a House-Senate conference committee for a spending bill. Its fate is up to Democratic leaders, particularly Pelosi, since the House passed no such provision.

Some fellow lawmakers were surprised that Pelosi wasn't following the issue.

"I think that she's not focused on the issue of corruption," said Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), who has been hammering ACORN.
Ah come on....Pelosi is obviously just playing along. :D

Quit picking on Queen Nancy!
 

CitizenKain

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
So how come these people didn't call the police? That's right, you Left-Wing Apologists know NO bounds.

What? Learn to write in english.


Originally posted by: spidey07
LOL!

So answer an easy question - were all the acron employees at 5 separate cities all just "playing along"? Is that the defense/apology?

They were at this location.

fixed...now answer Troll

Because they knew she was making shit up wholesale about that, but they also knew that people like yourself wouldn't be bright enough to understand it.
 

PJABBER

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THE U.S HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES VOTES TO DEFUND ACORN

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 718
H R 3221 RECORDED VOTE 17-Sep-2009 2:06 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Recommit with Instructions
BILL TITLE: Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2009

Ayes Noes PRES NV

Democratic 172 75 2 6
Republican 173 5
Independent
TOTALS 345 75 2 11

TAKE NOTE: ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONGRESSMEN THAT VOTED TO ALLOW ACORN ACCESS TO GOVERNMENT FUNDING ARE DEMOCRATS

?- ANSWERED ?NO?

Baldwin
Becerra
Brady (PA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capuano
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Cleaver
Clyburn
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (IL)
DeGette
Delahunt
Doyle
Edwards (MD)
Ellison
Engel
Fattah
Filner
Fudge
Green, Al
Grijalva
Hinchey
Hirono
Holt
Honda
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E. B.
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kucinich
Larsen (WA)
Lee (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lynch
Markey (MA)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
Meeks (NY)
Mollohan
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Nadler (NY)
Neal (MA)
Olver
Pallone
Pascrell
Payne
Polis (CO)
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sánchez, Linda T.
Schakowsky
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Stark
Thompson (MS)
Towns
Tsongas
Velázquez
Waters
Watson
Waxman
Wexler
Woolsey

?- ANSWERED ?PRESENT?

Hastings (FL)
Watt
 

BMW540I6speed

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Jesus H Christ!. Shut the oranization down or clean house of the corrupt employees. As long as they are the recipients of federal grants then they should be investigated if there is any evidence of wrongdoing. I do think it is ridiculous that in this country voter registration is driven by private organization "drives". I think they can educate people, I have no problem with that, but to have them literally collecting voter registration cards and handing them in, whether it is ACORN or the Young Republicans. Doesnt seem right to me.

They trust poor people. This is a political bias, to be sure. They hire poor people whenever they get the chance, they feel an obligation to do so. And so, they get screwed over. Time and again, and again, because they will keep doing it. They will not stick thier nose up the applicant's ass and ferret out every possible misdemeanor, because they trust poor people.

Now, of course, the opposite prejudice is a tendency to distrust guys with expensive suits and spreadsheets, financial types, and so forth. A blind, unfounded prejudice, to be sure, since we all know that these men are the very paragons of virtue and fair dealing. ACORN is foolish to trust the poor without suspicion. Granted. I confess. Poor people are no less likely to screw you than a white guy in a suit, they just aren't as good at it.

Hey, Blackwater may have been involved in child prostitution. They should not receive one more taxpayer dime until they are fully investigated.

This is another HUGE distraction from all the important issues that could be taken up. In the logic of some, ACORN got Obama elected illegitimately by registering poor people who shouldn't really be allowed to vote. Thus allowing for a president who looks out for the poor and the kickstart of the apocalypse. I assume this is what they mean when they break down into righteous tears and say they want 'their country back.' Some of the nutter postings on right wing message boards are priceless: ACORN was formed by Barack Obama to be his personal army of indoctrinators, They're the reason Obama is destroying America. So I guess this means Obama likes child prostitution. Ridiculous! Scaremongers are trying to make ACORN out to be a branch of the Democratic party.

This O'Keefe is wailing and gnashing his teeth. Where did he got the courage to take on the shadow empire of ACORN. Must have gotten some money from somewhere. Hmmm.

James O'Keefe said:

ACORN has ascended. They elect our politicians and receive billions in tax money. Their world is a revolutionary, socialistic, atheistic world, where all means are justifiable. And they create chaos, again, for it?s own sake. It is time for us to be studying and applying their tactics, many of which are ideologically neutral. It is time, as Hannah said as we walked out of the ACORN facility, for conservative activists to ?create chaos for glory.?

Yawn!. sounds like a just another delusional nutter.

 

RyanPaulShaffer

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Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Jesus H Christ!. Shut the oranization down or clean house of the corrupt employees. As long as they are the recipients of federal grants then they should be investigated if there is any evidence of wrongdoing. I do think it is ridiculous that in this country voter registration is driven by private organization "drives". I think they can educate people, I have no problem with that, but to have them literally collecting voter registration cards and handing them in, whether it is ACORN or the Young Republicans. Doesnt seem right to me.

They trust poor people. This is a political bias, to be sure. They hire poor people whenever they get the chance, they feel an obligation to do so. And so, they get screwed over. Time and again, and again, because they will keep doing it. They will not stick thier nose up the applicant's ass and ferret out every possible misdemeanor, because they trust poor people.

Now, of course, the opposite prejudice is a tendency to distrust guys with expensive suits and spreadsheets, financial types, and so forth. A blind, unfounded prejudice, to be sure, since we all know that these men are the very paragons of virtue and fair dealing. ACORN is foolish to trust the poor without suspicion. Granted. I confess. Poor people are no less likely to screw you than a white guy in a suit, they just aren't as good at it.

Hey, Blackwater may have been involved in child prostitution. They should not receive one more taxpayer dime until they are fully investigated.

This is another HUGE distraction from all the important issues that could be taken up. In the logic of some, ACORN got Obama elected illegitimately by registering poor people who shouldn't really be allowed to vote. Thus allowing for a president who looks out for the poor and the kickstart of the apocalypse. I assume this is what they mean when they break down into righteous tears and say they want 'their country back.' Some of the nutter postings on right wing message boards are priceless: ACORN was formed by Barack Obama to be his personal army of indoctrinators, They're the reason Obama is destroying America. So I guess this means Obama likes child prostitution. Ridiculous! Scaremongers are trying to make ACORN out to be a branch of the Democratic party.

This O'Keefe is wailing and gnashing his teeth. Where did he got the courage to take on the shadow empire of ACORN. Must have gotten some money from somewhere. Hmmm.

James O'Keefe said:

ACORN has ascended. They elect our politicians and receive billions in tax money. Their world is a revolutionary, socialistic, atheistic world, where all means are justifiable. And they create chaos, again, for it?s own sake. It is time for us to be studying and applying their tactics, many of which are ideologically neutral. It is time, as Hannah said as we walked out of the ACORN facility, for conservative activists to ?create chaos for glory.?

Yawn!. sounds like a just another delusional nutter.

ACORN was registering DEAD people to vote, including the late Paul Newman. They were participating in voter fraud, plain and clear.

ACORN Voter Fraud in Miami

"The workers, who were paid between $8 and $10 an hour, registered names of nonexistent people -- in one case, Paul Newman and James Taylor appeared on cards -- or simply filled out several cards for the same real voter, authorities said."

Partisan hackery much?
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
Jesus H Christ!. Shut the oranization down or clean house of the corrupt employees. As long as they are the recipients of federal grants then they should be investigated if there is any evidence of wrongdoing. I do think it is ridiculous that in this country voter registration is driven by private organization "drives". I think they can educate people, I have no problem with that, but to have them literally collecting voter registration cards and handing them in, whether it is ACORN or the Young Republicans. Doesnt seem right to me.

They trust poor people. This is a political bias, to be sure. They hire poor people whenever they get the chance, they feel an obligation to do so. And so, they get screwed over. Time and again, and again, because they will keep doing it. They will not stick thier nose up the applicant's ass and ferret out every possible misdemeanor, because they trust poor people.

Now, of course, the opposite prejudice is a tendency to distrust guys with expensive suits and spreadsheets, financial types, and so forth. A blind, unfounded prejudice, to be sure, since we all know that these men are the very paragons of virtue and fair dealing. ACORN is foolish to trust the poor without suspicion. Granted. I confess. Poor people are no less likely to screw you than a white guy in a suit, they just aren't as good at it.

Hey, Blackwater may have been involved in child prostitution. They should not receive one more taxpayer dime until they are fully investigated.

This is another HUGE distraction from all the important issues that could be taken up. In the logic of some, ACORN got Obama elected illegitimately by registering poor people who shouldn't really be allowed to vote. Thus allowing for a president who looks out for the poor and the kickstart of the apocalypse. I assume this is what they mean when they break down into righteous tears and say they want 'their country back.' Some of the nutter postings on right wing message boards are priceless: ACORN was formed by Barack Obama to be his personal army of indoctrinators, They're the reason Obama is destroying America. So I guess this means Obama likes child prostitution. Ridiculous! Scaremongers are trying to make ACORN out to be a branch of the Democratic party.

This O'Keefe is wailing and gnashing his teeth. Where did he got the courage to take on the shadow empire of ACORN. Must have gotten some money from somewhere. Hmmm.

James O'Keefe said:

ACORN has ascended. They elect our politicians and receive billions in tax money. Their world is a revolutionary, socialistic, atheistic world, where all means are justifiable. And they create chaos, again, for it?s own sake. It is time for us to be studying and applying their tactics, many of which are ideologically neutral. It is time, as Hannah said as we walked out of the ACORN facility, for conservative activists to ?create chaos for glory.?

Yawn!. sounds like a just another delusional nutter.

ACORN was registering DEAD people to vote, including the late Paul Newman. Partisan hackery much?

Just another Left-Wing Apologist.
 

PJABBER

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Please remember that though you have both houses of Congress now voting to defund ACORN, this is not a done deal until President Obama signs the bills into law.

I wonder if he will be asked about ACORN on one of the half dozen or so interviews he will be giving to the MSM on Sunday.