A serious case of pure ownage

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Zebo

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I personally love planes and go to as many air shows as I can with my boys.. One time while golfing I saw a B2 fly literally 100 ft above my head and I did'nt even hear it approaching until I saw it.. just awesome. meh some people are uptight, especially in broken down $5 an hour enconomy Peroia Ill.;)
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
It's called life. This kid seems to think the world around him should rotate on his schedule judging from his letter. Boo Hoo...

Should the local frat boys be playing music at 11 at 2 A.M. right outside your window? Should Mexican yard workers be up and grinding away right outside your house at 7 in the morning on a Saturday? Some things are appropriate early in the morning, some things are not. They could easily wait till noon when everybody would be up.
 

imported_tss4

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'd be bummed if they passed by me and I didn't get a chance to see them.

Anyway that letter gave Jerome a chance to once again over generalize those who don''t happen to think like him about other topics thus served a purpose.... to trivialize any thoughts he may post here.

Yeap, cause if one liberal said it, they must all say it.
Hell the person might not have even been a Liberal but that wouldn't matter to Jerome as long as he can use it to demonize all those who might not share his inbred beliefs.

These guys often complain about Left Wing Kooks like sillyTIM, Protelariat and Steeplerot but you know they love them just so the can use them to as an example as how all those who aren't in lock step with the Right Wing extremisit pov are as out of touch with reality as they are. The Ying for their Yang.


Wrong. I stated a simple OP for amusement purposes, and notice it was only when a couple Libs started posting their slanted attacks on me that I turned political. Somehow they're ideological salvos get a pass :roll: As always.......

It's more like you people get your titties in a knot when someone -like me- posts something and the looney left emerges to embarass you. Which is kinda strange, considering you're a bit of a closet conservative ;)

Point taken. You're right, they're just as quick to make broad generalizations of the opposite party as you are. They're out of touch.

 

ShadesOfGrey

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Should the local frat boys be playing music at 11 at 2 A.M. right outside your window? Should Mexican yard workers be up and grinding away right outside your house at 7 in the morning on a Saturday? Some things are appropriate early in the morning, some things are not. They could easily wait till noon when everybody would be up.

There are noise ordinances. I haven't heard of one for 9 AM, have you? Sure I suppose they could have waited but they would have had to call the kid to find out his schedule, but then wouldn't the phone call be intrusive?
There is no excuse for people whining about noise at 9AM. Road crews don't wait until noon, they start earlier than 9AM too.
 

Tommunist

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Should the local frat boys be playing music at 11 at 2 A.M. right outside your window? Should Mexican yard workers be up and grinding away right outside your house at 7 in the morning on a Saturday? Some things are appropriate early in the morning, some things are not. They could easily wait till noon when everybody would be up.

There are noise ordinances. I haven't heard of one for 9 AM, have you? Sure I suppose they could have waited but they would have had to call the kid to find out his schedule, but then wouldn't the phone call be intrusive?
There is no excuse for people whining about noise at 9AM. Road crews don't wait until noon, they start earlier than 9AM too.

people can whine all they want - it doesn't mean anyone has to do anything about it.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Should the local frat boys be playing music at 11 at 2 A.M. right outside your window? Should Mexican yard workers be up and grinding away right outside your house at 7 in the morning on a Saturday? Some things are appropriate early in the morning, some things are not. They could easily wait till noon when everybody would be up.

There are noise ordinances. I haven't heard of one for 9 AM, have you? Sure I suppose they could have waited but they would have had to call the kid to find out his schedule, but then wouldn't the phone call be intrusive?
There is no excuse for people whining about noise at 9AM. Road crews don't wait until noon, they start earlier than 9AM too.

Notice I said "some things are appropriate"? I don't get pissed at the garbage trucks, or the street sweepers, or the leaf vacuumers, because they are performing a practical and valuable function towards the public interest.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Notice I said "some things are appropriate"? I don't get pissed at the garbage trucks, or the street sweepers, or the leaf vacuumers, because they are performing a practical and valuable function towards the public interest.

Jets aren't approriate? Because this kid or you say so? It's 9 in the morning, there is nothing inappropriate about the noise, nor is there room for yours or the kids list of appropriate sounds.
 

rchiu

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What serious case of ownage? If the guy who wrote the letter didn't know about the reason for the low fly over, he has every right to complain about it.

It is not only the noise, it is also dangerous for fighter jets to fly at low altitude over populated areas. Back in 1998, 20 people killed in the cable car accident when US fighter jets flew too low in Italy.

Now I am sure the Air Force base planed the event carefully, and they have every right to honor one of their own. But it is also their duty to inform the people about what's happenning.

Not everyone gets excited frome the sight of fighter jets or sounds of those jets. Some of us actually want some peace and quiet in our life, and want to make sure the place we work and the place we live is safe from some fighter jet flying over at quick speed.
 

shira

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Imagine the irony if Mr. MacRae's wife were dying of terminal cancer, and the jet fly-over awoke her from the only sleep she'd been able to get in two weeks. And that Mr. MacRae has spent all his energy in attempting to care for her, finally got her in a restful state, only to have the jets ruin it all.

Ignorance of someone else's situation works both ways. We really don't know about what's going on in Mr. MacRae's life, either. I realize it's very like MacRae was simply jumping to conclusions, but that may not be the whole story. So, as much as we'd like to judge him harshly, perhaps we should not make any assumptions one way or the other.
None of that is relevant and even if it was - it wouldn't change anything. What if.... What if it was a street sweeper... What if it was his phone ringing from because someone called the wrong number....

It's called life. This kid seems to think the world around him should rotate on his schedule judging from his letter. Boo Hoo...

Of course you've entirely missed the point:

The OP provided a letter complaining about a fly-over. With no additional context, some of us might well feel some sympathy for the complaint. Then the OP provided a context for the flyover, and that made the MacRae's letter seem petty.

Many of the posters on this thread are writing scornful messages (analogous to letters of complaint to a newspaper, capeesh?) about MacRae's letter. Well, gee whiz, what if there's a context for MacCrae's letter? Might that change our tune? Irony? Tables turned? Get it?

Perhaps you think that writing a letter complaining about a fly-over is out of bounds for any reason. I don't.
 

judasmachine

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I understand the tribute at the funeral, but it's still rude as some of the living are asleep at that time. Not everyone works 9 to 5. The dead are dead, and the world belongs to the living. Besides if you want to honor the soldiers, bring them home and throw a party, I'm sure they wouldn't mind drinking with ya at some cushy park.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Of course you've entirely missed the point:

The OP provided a letter complaining about a fly-over. With no additional context, some of us might well feel some sympathy for the complaint. Then the OP provided a context for the flyover, and that made the MacRae's letter seem petty.

Many of the posters on this thread are writing scornful messages (analogous to letters of complaint to a newspaper, capeesh?) about MacRae's letter. Well, gee whiz, what if there's a context for MacCrae's letter? Might that change our tune? Irony? Tables turned? Get it?

Perhaps you think that writing a letter complaining about a fly-over is out of bounds for any reason. I don't.
No doubt some people want to have sympathy for the kid who was whining, but the kid's whining was petty even without knowing that it was for a funeral. The kid seems to think the world should run on his time or only do things he thinks is appropriate. He may have had some argument if it was the dead of night but not at 9AM. There is plenty of noise by 9AM.

No, I don't think him writing the letter was out of bounds, but it does show his arrogance and selfishness. The world does not revolve around him and his letter is being put in the context it should be which is welfish whining.

Judasmachine - why is it "rude". Is it the time of day? 9AM?
 

judasmachine

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Judasmachine - why is it "rude". Is it the time of day? 9AM?

I live here in Amarillo, which is home to a runway at the airport which is used by the Air Force to train pilots with touch and goes, and a Bell Heliocopter plant that builds Ospreys. They used to keep me awake when I worked graveyards. In the middle of the night I understand when the LifeStar chopper buzzes my house as they are trying to save a member of the living. Perhaps a tribute outside of city limits, or perhaps a bit later would be appropriate. Aren't they banned from flying at certain altitudes over cities anyway?

The dead are dead and cannot hear your fighter salute, but the rest of us can.

All I'm really saying is that they should consider whether they are disrupting more than they are honoring. That being said, I do love to watch the Ospreys fly over when I'm awake, but I work days now so it's not as bad.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Notice I said "some things are appropriate"? I don't get pissed at the garbage trucks, or the street sweepers, or the leaf vacuumers, because they are performing a practical and valuable function towards the public interest.

Jets aren't approriate? Because this kid or you say so? It's 9 in the morning, there is nothing inappropriate about the noise, nor is there room for yours or the kids list of appropriate sounds.

Jets that serve no practical public function are inappropriate early in the morning.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Notice I said "some things are appropriate"? I don't get pissed at the garbage trucks, or the street sweepers, or the leaf vacuumers, because they are performing a practical and valuable function towards the public interest.

Jets aren't approriate? Because this kid or you say so? It's 9 in the morning, there is nothing inappropriate about the noise, nor is there room for yours or the kids list of appropriate sounds.

Jets that serve no practical public function are inappropriate early in the morning.
Fsck that, the kid who gave his all serving the country is more deserving of that tribute than some tard getting his shut eye after 9 AM

 

kogase

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Fsck that, the kid who gave his all serving the country is more deserving of that tribute than some tard getting his shut eye after 9 AM

He can get his tribute anytime, anywhere, and bother people who care to apprectiate him with the noise. I wouldn't want my funeral shoved down anybody's throat just like I wouldn't want my religion shoved down anybody's throat (if I were religious).
 

imported_tss4

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Fsck that, the kid who gave his all serving the country is more deserving of that tribute than some tard getting his shut eye after 9 AM

He can get his tribute anytime, anywhere, and bother people who care to apprectiate him with the noise. I wouldn't want my funeral shoved down anybody's throat just like I wouldn't want my religion shoved down anybody's throat (if I were religious).

This has nothing to do with religion. People that serve in the military getpaid little for what they do. Society can afford them a nice funeral that may be "inconvenient" for some of us.
 

NeoV

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this is quite possible the least important thread in the history of this forum...how in god's name was the person supposed to know that?

Ownage? I thought you were a teacher, why are you talking like a 12 year old haxor?
 
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SlitheryDee

It's OK to be annoyed when something annoying happens.

That said, I think people who write a "Letter to the Editor" every time they see something they don't like are annoying.;)
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'd be bummed if they passed by me and I didn't get a chance to see them.

Anyway that letter gave Jerome a chance to once again over generalize those who don''t happen to think like him about other topics thus served a purpose.... to trivialize any thoughts he may post here.

Yeap, cause if one liberal said it, they must all say it.
Hell the person might not have even been a Liberal but that wouldn't matter to Jerome as long as he can use it to demonize all those who might not share his inbred beliefs.

These guys often complain about Left Wing Kooks like sillyTIM, Protelariat and Steeplerot but you know they love them just so the can use them to as an example as how all those who aren't in lock step with the Right Wing extremisit pov are as out of touch with reality as they are. The Ying for their Yang.

I was waiting for Jerome's predictable cheap shot a la "Pea-brained liberal" or "idiotic liberal" or whatever personal attack he delusionally believes to be masquerading as "intelligent commentary" on the political scene today.

Right, because if you're irritated by a military jet fly-over, you must not be waiving the flag hard enough.

Whatever. :roll:
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
no response from cwjerome for a while, perhaps he's to busy jerking it to his great leader's speach, like any true patriot.

You deserve a ban for this.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
no response from cwjerome for a while, perhaps he's to busy jerking it to his great leader's speach, like any true patriot.

You deserve a ban for this.

If he does, so do a whole lot more. Including the OP.
 

bsobel

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If he does, so do a whole lot more. Including the OP.

For what, there is nothing the OP posted that rises anywhere close to the level of flamebait that MikeTheIdiot posted.